The Hypocrisy Of The Media On Libya Is Astounding

[Robbie]

Yesterday I heard the dreaded term "Freedom Fighter" used to describe the opponents of the govt. in Libya

Today, on CNN...they are calling a guy a "Hero" and interviewing his friends and family and talking about how he "sacrificed his life" for the greater good. What did this guy do? Well, he packed a car up with explosive materials and drove it into a pack of Libyan soldiers and blew himself up to kill as many of them as he could.

Sound familiar? Yeah...suicide bomber.
When it's a muslim doing it AGAINST us...we call them "Cowards" and nobody interviews their friends and families and glorifies them. And commentators on the news wonder how anybody could do anything so despicable.

But now...this guy is a "Hero" who "sacrificed his life"

This shit is getting ridiculous. We have no business in the middle of a civil war. And the media just might as well drop all pretense that they are anything but an arm of our govt.

[dyna mo]

turn off the news.

[Vendzilla]

welcome to the spin factory

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

turn off the news.

I tried to...I changed the channel and it was Jerry Springer...changed it again and it was Maury Povich, changed it again and it was The View. So I went back to the news.

[BlackCrayon]

its hardly the same, this 'civil war' is a bunch of citizens with little resources against a government with basically unlimited resources.

these libyian soliders are out to kill the citizens of libya. its not like they are 'suicide bombing' churches or public places full of innocent people.

while i agree, we shouldn't be there, because it opens up a can of worms. how can you be there for one country doing this and not another?

[DangerX !!!]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I tried to...I changed the channel and it was Jerry Springer...changed it again and it was Maury Povich, changed it again and it was The View. So I went back to the news.

i hear ya, i just switch to the digital music channels at that point.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i hear ya, i just switch to the digital music channels at that point.

You're killing me softly

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

these libyian soliders are out to kill the citizens of libya.

I keep hearing that too on the news. It's reported as if the Libyan military is just out to kill the population of Libya.

So why aren't they just doing that?

From what I've seen the "citizens" that the army wants to kill are the ones that have guns in their hands shooting at soldiers.

And two days ago they were showing the "rebels" with an old army jeep that they were using to run down "pro-Quadaffi" CITIZENS. That's right...the one thing that the news isn't reporting is the fact that the "Rebels" are KILLING people too.

Matter of fact, everytime that they shoot a soldier they just killed one of their own citizens who has family and friends that are citizens too. And everytime WE bomb their military, we are killing Libyans too.

I'm all for seeing Quadaffi out of there too. But if we were gonna do some crazy shit like this it should have been 25 years ago when his agents killed our soldiers in that nightclub in Berlin.

For the last 7 or 8 years he has been our buddy. He gave up his nuclear stuff to the international community. He publicly renounced terrorism. And we took him off the terrorist list. Not to mention his appearance a year or so ago in New York to give his speech at the U.N.

And now? Out of the blue we're gonna take him out? The country of Libya poses no threat to us. And hasn't attacked us. Yet there we are bombing and killing in the name of being "humanitarian"?

The United States tax payer should not be responsible for the entire fucking world. Nor should our troops be putting their lives on the line for them.

My feeling is it's gonna be just like Iraq. When we started this shit...a lot of the people there were dressed in suits and ties and living rather secular lives (compared to other places there). And when we leave...the place will be a bombed out ruin full of people wearing sheets and towels on their fucking heads and chanting "allah".

[Si]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I tried to...I changed the channel and it was Jerry Springer...changed it again and it was Maury Povich, changed it again and it was The View. So I went back to the news.

Put a DVD on

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I tried to...I changed the channel and it was Jerry Springer...changed it again and it was Maury Povich, changed it again and it was The View. So I went back to the news.

Best answer is to toss the TV out the door.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yesterday I heard the dreaded term "Freedom Fighter" used to describe the opponents of the govt. in Libya

Today, on CNN...they are calling a guy a "Hero" and interviewing his friends and family and talking about how he "sacrificed his life" for the greater good. What did this guy do? Well, he packed a car up with explosive materials and drove it into a pack of Libyan soldiers and blew himself up to kill as many of them as he could.

Sound familiar? Yeah...suicide bomber.
When it's a muslim doing it AGAINST us...we call them "Cowards" and nobody interviews their friends and families and glorifies them. And commentators on the news wonder how anybody could do anything so despicable.

But now...this guy is a "Hero" who "sacrificed his life"

This shit is getting ridiculous. We have no business in the middle of a civil war. And the media just might as well drop all pretense that they are anything but an arm of our govt.

If you can't see the differnence then you're pretty dumb.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Best answer is to toss the TV out the door.

God help me...I can't!

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by GatorB

If you can't see the differnence then you're pretty dumb.

Thanks for you analysis. Sorry if I don't think this is legal or right for us to be there...and also sorry if I think that ANYBODY doing a suicide bombing is wrong.

If that same guy had done that to our troops...we would be calling him every vile name known to man. You know...just like the families of the Libyan troops that he killed are doing now.

This shit ain't as black and white as it's being force fed to us. Bottom line: We should not be there. And we shouldn't be occupying over 80 countries around the world. And our govt. is overreaching not only around the world, but into OUR lives as well.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

its hardly the same, this 'civil war' is a bunch of citizens with little resources against a government with basically unlimited resources.

these libyian soliders are out to kill the citizens of libya. its not like they are 'suicide bombing' churches or public places full of innocent people.

while i agree, we shouldn't be there, because it opens up a can of worms. how can you be there for one country doing this and not another?

well I guess we need to hustle ourselves over to syria, bahrain, and yemen and start bombing them too, eh?

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Robbie

God help me...I can't!

then get netflix on demand and watch the documentaries...

they have a huge selection on tons of subjects...

watching one right now about a soviet sub that exploded and we raised during the cold war without the soviets knowing..




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[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I tried to...I changed the channel and it was Jerry Springer...changed it again and it was Maury Povich, changed it again and it was The View. So I went back to the news.

that's when its time to pick up the guitar ;)

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

well I guess we need to hustle ourselves over to syria, bahrain, and yemen and start bombing them too, eh?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if that happens. The media is already pushing the Yemen situation as "dangerous" for the U.S.

I'm sure we won't attack Syria. They have a military that can fight back and the backing of the Russians.

Just like we didn't help the Iranian young people last year when they were getting killed by govt. forces.

Thank goodness nobody bombed us when the National Guard killed those students at Kent State when they were protesting back a few decades ago.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

that's when its time to pick up the guitar ;)

Now that is the best suggestion of them all.

[Machete_]

This goes all the way back to 1997 when Monica Lewinsky was headline news. Some of the networks stopped talking about it because it was such a sleazy story and they felt it was beneath them to focus on it. The moment they stopped talking about it, the ratings went down. We still like to think TV news has a mission to inform the public and shape debate in the nation.

Bullshit. It's a rating-driven business now. And people whine about how horrible and biased the news is, but the truth that what most people want bright colors and loud noises. That's why Fox has become such a powerhouse. The other news operations are struggling to keep up with fickle public tastes.

[DamianJ]

Redneck TV

[Robbie]

Damn...they just one second ago announced on CNN that the "No Fly Zone" over Libya (which it was announced two days ago that the Libyan Airforce had been COMPLETELY destroyed...so why are we still doing this?) will cost the U.S. EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

That's us taxpayers paying for that. Meanwhile our own countries economy and infrastructure is falling to pieces. Nice.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn...they just one second ago announced on CNN that the "No Fly Zone" over Libya (which it was announced two days ago that the Libyan Airforce had been COMPLETELY destroyed...so why are we still doing this?) will cost the U.S. EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

That's us taxpayers paying for that. Meanwhile our own countries economy and infrastructure is falling to pieces. Nice.

2 reasons...

we get to show the world how superior our air power is and the defense contractors get to make some coin...




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[DaCaptain]

We should not be there. And we shouldn't be occupying over 80 countries around the world. And our govt. is overreaching not only around the world, but into OUR lives as well.

Truer words have never been spoken.

I saw on the news today some idiot is proposing a tax on the miles that you drive your car. Sheesh!

No new taxes. We need to pull our military back home and let the other countries of the world run themselves.

As citizens, we need to vote out these idiots that are trying to get us deeper into other countries business, vote out the ones that want more taxes and more government.

If Obama truly did not have the constitutional authority to attack Libya, impeach him.

The tea party movement was a good start, but we the people need to send all of our politicians a message...

[Rochard]

The only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is which side your on.

[BVF]

Arabs killing other Arabs is irrelevant....So if the "good" Arabs are killing the "bad" ones, I guess America is cool with that.....I sure am because an Arab means nothing to me...And that includes Israel...

[BVF]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn...they just one second ago announced on CNN that the "No Fly Zone" over Libya (which it was announced two days ago that the Libyan Airforce had been COMPLETELY destroyed...so why are we still doing this?) will cost the U.S. EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

That's us taxpayers paying for that. Meanwhile our own countries economy and infrastructure is falling to pieces. Nice.

It's been turned over to NATO....They announced that right before they aired the story about the dude who blew himself up...I have CNN on right now.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by BVF

Arabs killing other Arabs is irrelevant....So if the "good" Arabs are killing the "bad" ones, I guess America is cool with that.....I sure am because an Arab means nothing to me...And that includes Israel...

how.. anti-Semitic of you..

'member of a Semitic people originally from the Arabian peninsula and surrounding territories who speaks Arabic and who inhabits much of the Middle East and northern Africa '

point was that 'arabian' isn't necessary a large portion of the population in question

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by GatorB

If you can't see the differnence then you're pretty dumb.

It's always entertaining watching the dumbest person on this forum insulting someone else's intelligence.

[bronco67]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I think Islamic Fundamentalists believe in their cause, and I respect that they look at the USA as the enemy. That doesn't mean I don't want to see them killed before they kill me.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yesterday I heard the dreaded term "Freedom Fighter" used to describe the opponents of the govt. in Libya

Today, on CNN...they are calling a guy a "Hero" and interviewing his friends and family and talking about how he "sacrificed his life" for the greater good. What did this guy do? Well, he packed a car up with explosive materials and drove it into a pack of Libyan soldiers and blew himself up to kill as many of them as he could.

Sound familiar? Yeah...suicide bomber.
When it's a muslim doing it AGAINST us...we call them "Cowards" and nobody interviews their friends and families and glorifies them. And commentators on the news wonder how anybody could do anything so despicable.

But now...this guy is a "Hero" who "sacrificed his life"

This shit is getting ridiculous. We have no business in the middle of a civil war. And the media just might as well drop all pretense that they are anything but an arm of our govt.

It really is ridiculous.

I can hardly watch American media. I try to watch the BBC (not tons better, but it is better) or Al Jazeera who is simply fucking awesome these days.

[BVF]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

how.. anti-Semitic of you..

'member of a Semitic people originally from the Arabian peninsula and surrounding territories who speaks Arabic and who inhabits much of the Middle East and northern Africa '

point was that 'arabian' isn't necessary a large portion of the population in question

Ok....then I don't give a damn about any of those Middle Easterners, INCLUDING Israeli's.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by BVF

Arabs killing other Arabs is irrelevant....So if the "good" Arabs are killing the "bad" ones, I guess America is cool with that.....I sure am because an Arab means nothing to me...And that includes Israel...

I got 99 problems and Israel ain't one.

That region of the word hasn't been able to peacefully exist since the beginning of man. Sorry about their luck.

This is all going to turn into a huge cluster fuck.

[happygirl101]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

well I guess we need to hustle ourselves over to syria, bahrain, and yemen and start bombing them too, eh?

you just wait and watch.....that's what its gonna end up being...one massive Middle East Cleansing in the name of helping the citizens achieve democracy.

BTW to all those who are putting down the US govt, though am not a fan of governments in general.....if one takes a proper look, one will know that this was spearheaded by those nasty french and british governments.....good Ol Obama was just minding his business when they shanghaied him into it and now poor NATO is responsible for the freaking air strikes....and Canada jumped into the wagon too by supplying fighter jets...

they could instead have spent this money on helping earthquake victims in haiti or Japan or better yet, helping the homeless, aged or orphaned children within USA

[Elli]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

its hardly the same, this 'civil war' is a bunch of citizens with little resources against a government with basically unlimited resources.

Not like poor people fighting an occupying force with unlimited war budgets at all. Not like Afganistan, Iraq, various countries in central america.....

[dyna mo]

there are literally dozens and dozens of western news sources that provide solid news, if you take the time to look and have an open mind.

also, not sure why anybody thinks the rebels are any better or in fact, who the rebels are.

here are just a few excellent western news sourced articles on those poor souls known as the rebels.

For a month, gangs of young gunmen have roamed the city, rousting Libyan blacks and immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa from their homes and holding them for interrogation as suspected mercenaries or government spies. ...

The opposition has acknowledged detaining an unspecified number of sub-Saharan Africans on suspicion of serving as Kadafi mercenaries. Human Rights Watch has described a concerted campaign in which thousands of men have been driven from their homes in eastern Libya and beaten or arrested.

"Libyan rebels appear to take leaf from Kadafi's playbook"
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...59,print.story

David Wood at Huffington Post dove into a cache of documents captured in Iraq in 2007 describing the foreigners that came to fight the U.S. forces there. His conclusion? Many of the anti-American foreign fighters were from Libya -- specifically eastern Libya, where the opposition is now based.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_837894.html


there's many many more articles like the above

[Paul Markham]

Something never change. At one time the Israelis were terrorists and the Muslims were just defending their homes.

Now the Israelis are defending their homes and the Muslims are the terrorists.

I think it depends what side of the street you live on. Same street, different views.

[dyna mo]

The undertones of the Libyan revolt are tinged with religious fundamentalism, rather than liberal democracy.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article8465.html

[Vendzilla]

Should have taken Gaddafi out after the Lockerbie bombing, just him, not the country

[IllTestYourGirls]

Has Obama addressed congress yet? Didnt he have to do that within 48 hours? Has Obama gone on tv and addressed the American people yet? I have not watched the news in a few days. I needed a break after I heard Obama launched another illegal war.

[candyflip]

Standing on the beach
With a gun in my hand
Staring at the sea
Staring at the sand
Staring down the barrel
At the arab on the ground
I can see his open mouth
But I hear no sound

[dyna mo]

here's an interesting tidbit, no one know who the fuck is funding the rebels.

http://www.google.com/search?q=who+a...d3bc16a86a49f1

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

2 reasons...
we get to show the world how superior our air power is and the defense contractors get to make some coin...
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Mostly second.