Major Annoucement concering myself and ClickCash - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty D · 03-24-2011, 03:46 AM

Desperation... is the first word that comes to mind.

"I've made 160,000+ signups and 7+ Million dollars from Click Cash" LMAO

Lies would be the second word that comes to mind...
They are often used by the desperate.

J$tyle$ · 03-24-2011, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

It's funny how you say "glorified affiliate rep" in a negative connotation as if what I am doing was a bad thing or anything wrong with it. Most Programs would dream to have an affiliate like me. On top of the millions of dollars I make the company, I don't charge them 40K a year to be a "rep", I like the company so much I help their other affiliates out from time to time for FREE. And I know a lot more about the program I am helping people with then most reps would ever know. The way reps jump from company to company one would think it is hard for them to remember the name of the company they work for much less which promos convert the best, what sites sell the best with which traffic, etc. Not to mention the countless free feedback I have given to ClickCash over the years and changes they have made site wide due to my suggestions.

Lots of times I have helped people with ClickCash related issues and they already had an account so I didn't make anything for my time, no wm referral sales. But I don't mind helping. I am nice like that. I want to see ClickCash continue to do good so they will be around a long time and I can continue to make money from them. I also know what comes around goes around.

No negative connotation. It was just a statement of fact.

You are a glorified affiliate rep.

Definition of glorified
adj. Made to appear more important or better than it actually is; as, The Chief Financial Officer was little more than a glorified accountant.

Your explanation proves the point

Don't dispute it.

OWN IT

BTW - if you're you as awesome and effective an affiliate rep as you say, why haven't you cut a deal paying you low six figures + commissions as a REAL affiliate rep to offset the declining revenues you've seen as an affiliate the past few years?

Seems to me you probably left at least half a million bucks on the table the past 2-3 years by doing what you do for "free" with the hopes of referral $

On a lighter note, you're holding up well on keeping it positive

Keep up the good work!

12clicks · 03-24-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

It's all generated drama here folks. Just a light search threw up some immediate red flags.

I started here and did a little searching on his ICQ#, sites, and [email protected]

Starts in New Orleans and goes to Vegas with lot's of expired domains (same info) with blocked robot.txt for archive.org. Plus a NY phone number for all. Traced some of the domains to Holland and 20 I found were all webcams sites.

WTS, this (clone of many) site got my interest.

Anyway, none of the information on the domains were accurate accept his Nic.

..Did it surprise me? No. Just another nic drumming up drama/traffic for GFY.

no surprise

12clicks · 03-24-2011, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i don't think you understand the meaning chump

if i need a roofer i will stop by your room

what's it like nearing the end of your life and realizing you've accomplished nothing?
your bitterness is obvious but really, whats it like being a script kiddie at your age and pretending it amounts to anything on a chat board?
does it dull the feel of your linoleum kitchen floor against your feet as you win another imaginary battle?

god, I wish these anon losers would actually go to a show so I could so I could laugh in their face in person.

will76 · 03-24-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

So what was the Net you earned?

Is this true? ...does not read like your writing style.

Hard to guess the net, at some times I had a lot of over head, others I did not. I guess if I had to throw out a number, over the years, minus operational costs, taxes, etc.. I probably net about 25%

I'm not a millionaire, big baller like the other people you see on GFY who bought mansions and 20 sports cars etc... I'm just a pretty successful affiliate.

I provided the text for the website and had it rewritten by someone with much better grammar than me. No that is not my writing style but the information is correct.

will76 · 03-24-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J$tyle$

No negative connotation. It was just a statement of fact.

You are a glorified affiliate rep.

Definition of glorified
adj. Made to appear more important or better than it actually is; as, The Chief Financial Officer was little more than a glorified accountant.

Your explanation proves the point

Don't dispute it.

OWN IT

BTW - if you're you as awesome and effective an affiliate rep as you say, why haven't you cut a deal paying you low six figures + commissions as a REAL affiliate rep to offset the declining revenues you've seen as an affiliate the past few years?

Seems to me you probably left at least half a million bucks on the table the past 2-3 years by doing what you do for "free" with the hopes of referral $

On a lighter note, you're holding up well on keeping it positive

Keep up the good work!

I guess I am not connected enough, I offered a couple times over the last couple years to do consulting work but I am not looking for a commitment that will lock me in time wise for a long period of time. While I have helped people with ClickCash over the years, I do so when I have available time. If I don't have time, I am not required to help and don't.

I am the type of person if you are paying me for something I am going to take care of you first. If I was getting paid a salary and got busy helping people, my personal income would suffer as I would be spending a lot less time on my own projects and advertising. So I don't mind helping here and there when I can for free because I don't feel obligated. I also have no desire to be an affiliate rep 24/7. Like I said I do it help out Clickcash more than anything, when I can, because they have paid me so well over the years.

If I was to spend any amount time doing anything where I would be paid I would much rather something more challenging like consulting for a larger cam site or company, not general affiliate support. I would be fine blocking out 4-5 days or even a week or so to spend 100% of my time with a company and provide them with consulting on how to make the company better and more profitable. I see that as more of a better fit for me. I can get away for a short people of time, give them the blue prints of what they need to do, and their people do it. I just check in from time to time to make sure it is being done right and to give them new ideas along the way. I don't see that as a time commitment that would interfere with my current projects and advertising.

I've made posts before offering to do consulting with a money back guarantee, if they didn't like what I came up with don't use it and don't pay me. I didn't get any takers. Either everyone already thinks they have it figured out and/or they don't think I can bring anything to the table, or both. Oh well, no skin off my back I don't need the money and would be doing it for more of the challenge and to break the monotony of my current day to day. So, I get to spend more time working on my own stuff since no one wants to pay me for my advice. Although it would have been fun to have a new challenge and a break away from my stuff for a week, hell something like that would feel like a vacation for me.

will76 · 03-24-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

It's all generated drama here folks. Just a light search threw up some immediate red flags.

I started here and did a little searching on his ICQ#, sites, and [email protected]

Starts in New Orleans and goes to Vegas with lot's of expired domains (same info) with blocked robot.txt for archive.org. Plus a NY phone number for all. Traced some of the domains to Holland and 20 I found were all webcams sites.

WTS, this (clone of many) site got my interest.

Anyway, none of the information on the domains were accurate accept his Nic.

..Did it surprise me? No. Just another nic drumming up drama/traffic for GFY.

LOL that's not me. But hey, if you want to think so A+ on those detective skills

About the only thing you got right was that I live in New Orleans, my email address / ICQ number, and that I have been to Vegas.

Im more than happy if you guys don't believe me. Really. If you want to think I am a nobody and lieing, by all means please continue to do so.

I'll save you the trouble and wasted time. If you going to spend hours trying to dig around to think you going to discover some big lie or fraud that I am just a broke nobody, then go ahead and think that and save yourself the trouble and wasted time. You think that time would be better spent trying to make money instead of thinking you going to disprove some poster on GFY? If you don't want to believe me, don't. It's pretty simple.

That goes for all the haters. I know most of them like 12Clicks and DirtyD, et all have a hard time believing someone like me who has tore into them over the years could be successful, it goes against everything they believe because how could someone be critical of them AND be successful, no way, anyone that doesn't like them must be a broke troll that lives in mama's basement... hey whatever floats your boat and makes you feel better about yourself.

candyflip · 03-24-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Desperation... is the first word that comes to mind.

"I've made 160,000+ signups and 7+ Million dollars from Click Cash" LMAO

Lies would be the second word that comes to mind...
They are often used by the desperate.

I'm sure Will cares about what someone who's been arrested for having his dicked sucked by an old man in a porno theatre thinks of him.

How is Shelly these days?

papill0n · 03-24-2011, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

It's all generated drama here folks. Just a light search threw up some immediate red flags.

I started here and did a little searching on his ICQ#, sites, and [email protected]

Starts in New Orleans and goes to Vegas with lot's of expired domains (same info) with blocked robot.txt for archive.org. Plus a NY phone number for all. Traced some of the domains to Holland and 20 I found were all webcams sites.

WTS, this (clone of many) site got my interest.

Anyway, none of the information on the domains were accurate accept his Nic.

..Did it surprise me? No. Just another nic drumming up drama/traffic for GFY.

lol you go girl

your brilliant detective work has revealed...........drumroll.........absolutely nothing

will76 · 03-24-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

lol you go girl

your brilliant detective work has revealed...........drumroll.........absolutely nothing

You can go to team clickcash and see I list camgirlfinder there as one of the sites I made (5-6 years ago, yes the site does suck now) for clickcash affiliates to use. My icq and email is posted here.

The funny thing is I have absolutely nothing to do with lazy dollars, I've never been to Holland or used Holland as a location for anything I have owned and to my knowledge I've never " blocked robot.txt for archive.org". But whatever, if people want to think that is me, by all means.

Several years back I started using privacy protection on my domains instead of my real info. This was because one day Vice showed up at my office, they said they received a "complaint" about one of my websites. They went from the whois to my location to check it out. Yes, it was a girl showing a nipple, how shocking. But in any event I didn't want to have to deal with that shit and for all I know it was one of my "friends" from GFY that made the complaint.

TampaToker · 03-24-2011, 11:03 AM

Will why do you even bother man. I seen so many things posted wrong in this thread its comical. Keep your head up pimp and do your thing

TampaToker · 03-24-2011, 11:05 AM

On a side not you coming out to Phoenix? If so let me know and we could meet up....

SmokeyTheBear · 03-24-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

what's it like nearing the end of your life and realizing you've accomplished nothing?

i don't know , tell us 12sniffs.. what is it like..? i am half your age btw and my youngest daughter just turned 2

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

whats it like being a script kiddie at your age

programming is pretty fun actually, if you had any talent i might suggest learning it yourself

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

does it dull the feel of your linoleum kitchen floor

you do floors AND roofs ? wow multi-talented. I have no need for your linoleum services though i am afraid.. i have heated stone flooring ..

will76 · 03-24-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Will why do you even bother man. I seen so many things posted wrong in this thread its comical. Keep your head up pimp and do your thing

hey do you remember that time in DC that i logged into Clickcash and showed you my stats

Some of the bros here think that was all a figment of your imagination.

It's all good now, I am playing nice with everyone. Not making Phoenix, but Miami in August is looking good.

cherrylula · 03-24-2011, 11:13 AM

am I the only one confused as how someone who claims to have made over 7 million dollars with a program is now sig whoring for them?

it's like 1 + 1 = 3

12clicks · 03-24-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i don't know , tell us 12sniffs.. what is it like..? i am half your age btw and my youngest daughter just turned 2

well then as a script kiddie, you're age appropreate.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

programming is pretty fun actually, if you had any talent i might suggest learning it yourself

if you had any talent, I'd have hired you.
as it is, you had to beg for work here.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i have heated stone flooring ..

just like all the other chatboard pretenders.

will76 · 03-24-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

am I the only one confused as how someone who claims to have made over 7 million dollars with a program is now sig whoring for them?

it's like 1 + 1 = 3

It's ok to be confused.

TampaToker · 03-24-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

hey do you remember that time in DC that i logged into Clickcash and showed you my stats

Some of the bros here think that was all a figment of your imagination.

It's all good now, I am playing nice with everyone. Not making Phoenix, but Miami in August is looking good.

Yes and very impressive to. I would not waste my time justifying my stats to no one. Unless
im fucking them or they are paying my bills i would not worry about it....

see you in Miami

cherrylula · 03-24-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

It's ok to be confused.

and it's ok to be broke... that banner will keep you warm at night.

12clicks · 03-24-2011, 11:15 AM

ouch chokey, just noticed your sig change.
lost another job?
that would make sense of your bitterness.

lagcam · 03-24-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Is something happening in this thread?

Today, 01:12 PM
will76
This message is hidden because will76 is on your ignore list.

You really look an idiot when you do this Robbie.

I think that blanking people because you disagree with them about something is childish enough, but if you don't have the capacity to ignore without it, then I understand but coming into their threads and posting that they are on your ignore list is well just pathetic man.

You always had a good reputation and I enjoy reading your posts, but this makes you look as pointless as the majority here.

Anyway, good luck Will. I don't see it as sig whoring in your case btw. I am sure many have signed up to clickcash because of you without your ref link, so it's time you added it.

Robbie · 03-24-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

You really look an idiot when you do this Robbie.

I think that blanking people because you disagree with them about something is childish enough, but if you don't have the capacity to ignore without it, then I understand but coming into their threads and posting that they are on your ignore list is well just pathetic man.

You always had a good reputation and I enjoy reading your posts, but this makes you look as pointless as the majority here.

Anyway, good luck Will. I don't see it as sig whoring in your case btw. I am sure many have signed up to clickcash because of you without your ref link, so it's time you added it.

Sorry if I let you down. But Will took it upon himself to enter many threads over the last year and personally try to ridicule and insult me. For no reason at all. I've never met the guy, but he decided to act like a jackass to me.

And I do have to admit that yeah...like everybody else in this world I'm more than capable of having childish fun. And that's exactly what I did.

My view of this is that Will spent the last couple of years insulting the majority of people on here, and pissing them off with his rants...and now he's back in a gig that requires the ability to reach out to people and not be a troll all the time. So he's gonna pay the price of his last few years of acting so damn mean on here.

Hopefully he'll take a lesson from that and learn to be more civil and respectful of people in his industry in the future.

I think that me pointing out that he is on my ignore list serves two purposes:
1. It gave me a juvenile giggle to do it.

2. Now that he has a job representing a company...he may (or may not) realize just how many Click Cash affiliates out here have him on ignore already, which seriously damages his worth to the company if their own affiliates just don't like the guy because of his insanity over the last few years.

will76 · 03-24-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

You really look an idiot when you do this Robbie.

I think that blanking people because you disagree with them about something is childish enough, but if you don't have the capacity to ignore without it, then I understand but coming into their threads and posting that they are on your ignore list is well just pathetic man.

You always had a good reputation and I enjoy reading your posts, but this makes you look as pointless as the majority here.

Anyway, good luck Will. I don't see it as sig whoring in your case btw. I am sure many have signed up to clickcash because of you without your ref link, so it's time you added it.

thanks.... its all about me trying to maximize my time making money. If I am going to post here I might as well try to make some wm referral sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

My view of this is that Will spent the last couple of years insulting the majority of people on here, and pissing them off with his rants...and now he's back in a gig that requires the ability to reach out to people and not be a troll all the time. So he's gonna pay the price of his last few years of acting so damn mean on here.

Maybe I am missing something here, how can Robbie have a "view" if he can't read my posts ??

some one cue Robbie in that I don't have a job... lol thanks.

Traffic Guru · 03-24-2011, 01:08 PM

Ar least you are trying.

halfpint · 03-24-2011, 01:53 PM

First ..my sig is way better than yours

Never had a prob with you Will, mind you iv never had a prob with most GFY posters... it all goes over my head lol

Anyways... best of luck and hope it works out for you

cherrylula · 03-24-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

My view of this is that Will spent the last couple of years insulting the majority of people on here, and pissing them off with his rants...and now he's back in a gig that requires the ability to reach out to people and not be a troll all the time. So he's gonna pay the price of his last few years of acting so damn mean on here.

Hopefully he'll take a lesson from that and learn to be more civil and respectful of people in his industry in the future.

yeah he's dished it out pretty good... psychotically

no way I'd contact *anyone* like that for biz... l-o-fucking-l

good luck new will76

*chuckles*

will76 · 03-24-2011, 02:39 PM

The love is strong in this thread...

lazycash · 03-24-2011, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

No negative connotation. It was just a statement of fact.

You are a glorified affiliate rep.

Definition of glorified
adj. Made to appear more important or better than it actually is; as, The Chief Financial Officer was little more than a glorified accountant.

Your explanation proves the point

Don't dispute it.

OWN IT

BTW - if you're you as awesome and effective an affiliate rep as you say, why haven't you cut a deal paying you low six figures + commissions as a REAL affiliate rep to offset the declining revenues you've seen as an affiliate the past few years?

Seems to me you probably left at least half a million bucks on the table the past 2-3 years by doing what you do for "free" with the hopes of referral $

On a lighter note, you're holding up well on keeping it positive

Keep up the good work!

So by your logic you're nothing more than a glorified affiliate rep for ztod because you have their banner in your sig, and yes I know they just hired you.

lazycash · 03-24-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

am I the only one confused as how someone who claims to have made over 7 million dollars with a program is now sig whoring for them?

it's like 1 + 1 = 3

So putting any advertising in your sig is now considered sig whoring?

will76 · 03-24-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I wasn't digging, just a little research because I just might be interested. All I found was a piss-poor circle jerk of webcam domains/sites all backlinked together. Meaning, if you're netting $175k a year with the Network I've seen then I am for damn sure interested due to my (last) Adult Co contract is finished as of the first.

I've always liked what you write Will so I'm not pulling your chain and again, I was more then interested. WTS, as you mention it was not you and I believe it, but why would so many using your nic/addy info who just happen to be in the same niche pointing to Clickcash? I just found it odd and too busy to dig deeper.

Can you contact me and let me know which sites you came across that were using my nic/addy ? I looked at one of the ones you mentioned, LazyDollars and can't find my info anywhere on the whois or anywhere on the site. Why did you think I owned that ?

lagcam · 03-24-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

So putting any advertising in your sig is now considered sig whoring?

Indeed. I hope That Sleazydream Motivational Speakers Inc are paying you enough to offset your reduction in board credibility

J$tyle$ · 03-24-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

So by your logic you're nothing more than a glorified affiliate rep for ztod because you have their banner in your sig, and yes I know they just hired you.

No.

Although I have the title VP of Online Sales and Marketing - one of my core duties includes being an ACTUAL affiliate rep ... not glorified.

When I was the President of CE back in its' heyday I still considered myself an affiliate rep for the company.

I don't hide from it. There's no shame in it. It's one of several things I excel at.

Bottom line is I'm just busting Will's balls because of a post he made in my announcement thread. On a more serious note, I admire his fortitude

CyberHustler · 03-24-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

sure he's a troll (arn't we all) but he's a troll with a brain. those are the most dangerous and the most fun to deal with!

You should copywrite this...

will76 · 03-24-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Sure, but first I want to do a little more research because me and another are looking for a fit on a lot of 404 and ancillary (US) traffic that I'm certain would be perfect for this. WTS, I want to figure out my findings and then I'll contact you.

LazyDollars- I'll find all information plus add other interesting things I've pulled. Give me a few days.

ok thanks.

BAKO · 03-24-2011, 09:22 PM

Dont really know who Will is and dont give a fuck about him at all.

Robbie · 03-24-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Maybe I am missing something here, how can Robbie have a "view" if he can't read my posts ??

some one cue Robbie in that I don't have a job... lol thanks.

Well, I took you off "ignore". And now I read this? And you don't have a job? WTF? I thought that was what this thread was about? And my "view" is based on the insane shit you've done on GFY the last couple of years angering people and now you are catching grief for it.

I didn't need to see your new posts to know why I put you on ignore to begin with.

Anyway, you're off of it now since you actually are doing something that could make me a dollar. Welcome back.

lagcam · 03-24-2011, 09:40 PM

If you have a sponsor that has been converting very well you have two choices.

1. Keep quiet about it and enjoy it as long as it lasts.

2. Broadcast about it and hope people click your referral link and sign up under you so you can earn from their success also.

Sometimes of course, you do choice 1 until ratios start deteriorating more rapidly and then do step 2 which is my guess here.

It is a decent enough strategy but not without risk as more people promoting a site, more saturated it gets and therefore more difficult to find new customers.

As affiliates of most of the major sites already know.

TheDoc · 03-24-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I've followed your blog for a while and generally like your posts, but you completely lost me in this thread. I've promoted cams solely for 12 years and have followed the affiliate/program cam scene closer than anyone over that period. I've promoted every cam program out there and have a 12 yr old clickcash account that is still active, never missed a payment.

In 2004-2005 Clickcash had more affiliates than all other cam programs combined, in fact more than any other adult program. They went through a period of purging spammer's/tos violaters accounts or stopping payment on those that failed to fax in the signed tos agreement, but I've never seen any proof at all of them "scamming" anyone as you put it. The problem with Clickcash is that up until 2 years ago they had almost no board/forum presence. So all it took was few affiliates who had a problem to bitch and complain on the boards with no response, to make something appear much bigger than it was.

To say that they have scammed 1000's of affiliates is complete bullshit, please list some of these top names in the industry and how they were promoting CC. If Will putting a Clickcash banner in his sig "shocked" you, then it makes me wonder how closely you even follow this board. He's been the biggest trumpeter of Clickcash over the last 7 years on this board, and has taken his own time to help 100's of CC affiliates.

I don't care if you think Will is an ass, but saying things like Clickcash has fucked over the industry and scammed 1000's of affiliates is just utter nonsense.

What is it with you people on this board?

Google this: site:gfy.com clickcash ifriends

Enter any range of words you want: canceling account, scam, fraud, owes me money... you can get crazy, try peoples names, domains, all type so stuff and the posts keep coming - and not all of GFY is indexed either.

And, it happened to me directly, so even if it happened to nobody else, I would still bitch & have. And I can see many named people in our Industry in those searches with similar complaints too...

And... that's just GFY.

So I have no idea why you missed it, maybe you didn't really make any money and you just slipped by the radar of being bent over.... but without question, many of us did.

If you don't think I've been riding them for years, here's one post I just happened to see, dated: 09-20-2008, 02:54 PM http://www.gfy.com/14782747-post6.html

You're Playing The Memory Game With The Wrong Person.

DangerX !!! · 03-24-2011, 10:11 PM

Will, you're sexy!

will76 · 03-25-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Well, I took you off "ignore". And now I read this? And you don't have a job? WTF? I thought that was what this thread was about? And my "view" is based on the insane shit you've done on GFY the last couple of years angering people and now you are catching grief for it.

I didn't need to see your new posts to know why I put you on ignore to begin with.

Anyway, you're off of it now since you actually are doing something that could make me a dollar. Welcome back.

I've always caught grief on here for various reasons, nothing new and no big deal. I've never tried to appease anyone. All I am changing now is trying to stop myself from getting caught up in the bullshit of wasted time arguing and fighting about nonsense and to make my time here at least have the chance of generating some money.

This thread was just an announcement that I was going to play nicer, be available to help people with clickcash, and explanation of why I had banner since usually I had no sig and I know people would be asking/assuming. Although, I did have a little fun with the thread title knowing my "fans" would be hoping I either got a J.O.B. or that I had a falling out with them

that is until they actually read my post.

will76 · 03-25-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

If you have a sponsor that has been converting very well you have two choices.

1. Keep quiet about it and enjoy it as long as it lasts.

2. Broadcast about it and hope people click your referral link and sign up under you so you can earn from their success also.

Sometimes of course, you do choice 1 until ratios start deteriorating more rapidly and then do step 2 which is my guess here.

It is a decent enough strategy but not without risk as more people promoting a site, more saturated it gets and therefore more difficult to find new customers.

As affiliates of most of the major sites already know.

I thought that way early on, first couple years (01,02,03) I didn't want to mention anything. But then I quickly realized how big the internet was and that the chances of someone advertising clickcash in the exact same spot I was was slim. I know I don't reach .001% of the people online. Also, chances are they going to find out about clickcash one way or the other regardless if they saw me mention it or not. I look at it as extra income. I don't feel it decreases my affiliate revenue one bit. At worst if someone did compete with me for the same traffic with clickcash I would hope I would make at least 10% off of them.

Also I do volume and do to their tiered payout system if someone did want to compete with me I would have an edge as I hit some of the higher tiers. $20 a sign up can very well make difference if a campaign is profitable or loses money.

Personally, I'd rather find 10 people like me, and help them and I would still make the same amount of money, or even better find 20 people. While I did well with wm referrals when I made a big push at in 2005 with teamclickcash, the most I did was about 250 - 300K in wm referral sales from my efforts. What I wanted to do different with wm referrals was actually help people after they signed up vs just getting them to signup to the program like 99% of the people do who through out links or advertise a sponsor.

lazycash · 03-25-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What is it with you people on this board?

Google this: site:gfy.com clickcash ifriends

Enter any range of words you want: canceling account, scam, fraud, owes me money... you can get crazy, try peoples names, domains, all type so stuff and the posts keep coming - and not all of GFY is indexed either.

And, it happened to me directly, so even if it happened to nobody else, I would still bitch & have. And I can see many named people in our Industry in those searches with similar complaints too...

And... that's just GFY.

So I have no idea why you missed it, maybe you didn't really make any money and you just slipped by the radar of being bent over.... but without question, many of us did.

If you don't think I've been riding them for years, here's one post I just happened to see, dated: 09-20-2008, 02:54 PM http://www.gfy.com/14782747-post6.html

You're Playing The Memory Game With The Wrong Person.

I can enter those searches for any affiliate program and come up with some negative feedback based on a few affiliates who had a negative experience. I have no idea what your exact experience was with CC, and I'm not here to defend them on every single affiliate complaint over the years as I have nothing to gain by doing so. I'm just saying that to say they scammed 1000's of affiliates is 100% bullshit. You haven't bothered to shed any details on how you thought they scammed affiliates or your exact situation with them. You just threw out a wild blanket statement, that under usual circumstances would have already prompted an insta ban by the mods.

I will gladly play the memory game with you anytime, I know gfy history like the back of my hand and even more so, know the history of webcam programs. I've corresponded with 1000's of webcam affiliates over the years and have a good of a pulse on the niche as anyone.

papill0n · 03-25-2011, 12:47 AM

Ive had my clickcash acct for about 10 years.

Earnt plenty with them and had the least amount of hassles.

Machete_ · 03-25-2011, 02:16 AM

Why do pathological liars with delusions of grandeur flock to forums like this?

What is it with these sad sows who come here and do nothing but post lies about how awesome they are and how great their life is? Do they just suffer from low self esteem and post their lies here in an attempt to make themselves feel better?

Willy, you are an unemployed broke ass idiot. Just stop posting your nonsense already.

theking · 03-25-2011, 02:28 AM

He admits to being unemployed and does not have a business and is now sig whoring so it seems apparent that he does not have a great deal of money and if he in fact had actually earned 7 million dollars he is one piss poor manager of money.

will76 · 03-25-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

He admits to being unemployed and does not have a business and is now sig whoring so it seems apparent that he does not have a great deal of money and if he in fact had actually earned 7 million dollars he is one piss poor manager of money.

Pathfinder, you are correct sir. I haven't been "employed" for 11 years. The last time I had a J.O.B. was in college. Hate to tell you but "self employed" does not mean "unemployed" lol.

theking · 03-25-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Pathfinder, you are correct sir. I haven't been "employed" for 11 years. The last time I had a J.O.B. was in college. Hate to tell you but "self employed" does not mean "unemployed" lol.

I would assume that to be self employed one has to have a business to employ ones self. What business do you own...if you care to say.

lazycash · 03-25-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

I would assume that to be self employed one has to have a business to employ ones self. What business do you own...if you care to say.

So are you saying that all of the 1000's of webmasters who promote affiliate programs are not self employed?

BJ · 03-25-2011, 02:56 AM

anywho, will76 may be annoying and what not, but I do believe his 7mil claim as I made a consistent 5-10k per week with clickash for over 2 years and I did not do what he did, with permission from big al, so....

theking · 03-25-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

So are you saying that all of the 1000's of webmasters who promote affiliate programs are not self employed?

Well...they do not own a business...but they of course are independent sales persons...which makes them self employed...to some extent...but they are sales persons who are paid by people that own a business.

03-24-2011, 03:46 AM	#101
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	Desperation... is the first word that comes to mind. "I've made 160,000+ signups and 7+ Million dollars from Click Cash" LMAO Lies would be the second word that comes to mind... They are often used by the desperate. __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions

03-24-2011, 11:15 AM	#120
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,779	ouch chokey, just noticed your sig change. lost another job? that would make sense of your bitterness. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-24-2011, 01:53 PM	#125
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	First ..my sig is way better than yours Never had a prob with you Will, mind you iv never had a prob with most GFY posters... it all goes over my head lol Anyways... best of luck and hope it works out for you __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net

03-24-2011, 02:39 PM	#127
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	The love is strong in this thread... __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

03-24-2011, 09:22 PM	#135
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,369	Dont really know who Will is and dont give a fuck about him at all. __________________ DatingNetwork.com Skype: Bako2323

03-24-2011, 11:03 AM	#111
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	Will why do you even bother man. I seen so many things posted wrong in this thread its comical. Keep your head up pimp and do your thing

03-24-2011, 11:05 AM	#112
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	On a side not you coming out to Phoenix? If so let me know and we could meet up....

03-24-2011, 11:13 AM	#115
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	am I the only one confused as how someone who claims to have made over 7 million dollars with a program is now sig whoring for them? it's like 1 + 1 = 3

03-24-2011, 01:08 PM	#124
Traffic Guru Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 357	Ar least you are trying.

03-24-2011, 09:40 PM	#137
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	If you have a sponsor that has been converting very well you have two choices. 1. Keep quiet about it and enjoy it as long as it lasts. 2. Broadcast about it and hope people click your referral link and sign up under you so you can earn from their success also. Sometimes of course, you do choice 1 until ratios start deteriorating more rapidly and then do step 2 which is my guess here. It is a decent enough strategy but not without risk as more people promoting a site, more saturated it gets and therefore more difficult to find new customers. As affiliates of most of the major sites already know. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

03-24-2011, 10:11 PM	#139
DangerX !!! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: La Isla Bonita Power Level: ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Posts: 886	Will, you're sexy! __________________ This is sig area!

03-25-2011, 12:47 AM	#143
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Ive had my clickcash acct for about 10 years. Earnt plenty with them and had the least amount of hassles.

03-25-2011, 02:16 AM	#144
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Why do pathological liars with delusions of grandeur flock to forums like this? What is it with these sad sows who come here and do nothing but post lies about how awesome they are and how great their life is? Do they just suffer from low self esteem and post their lies here in an attempt to make themselves feel better? Willy, you are an unemployed broke ass idiot. Just stop posting your nonsense already.

03-25-2011, 02:28 AM	#145
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	He admits to being unemployed and does not have a business and is now sig whoring so it seems apparent that he does not have a great deal of money and if he in fact had actually earned 7 million dollars he is one piss poor manager of money. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

03-25-2011, 02:56 AM	#149
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	anywho, will76 may be annoying and what not, but I do believe his 7mil claim as I made a consistent 5-10k per week with clickash for over 2 years and I did not do what he did, with permission from big al, so.... Last edited by BJ; 03-25-2011 at 02:58 AM..