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d-null · 05-05-2011, 07:43 PM

Do you think that in the interest of national security, Homeland Security should have instant backdoor access to all Facebook data, including all private and password protected data?

curious what the opinions on this are and about digital information in general (cellular calls, texts, emails, etc.)

Coup · 05-05-2011, 07:44 PM

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 07:45 PM

assange says they already have backdoors into facebook/google.

http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-revelat...nge-interview/

i believe him.

Barefootsies · 05-05-2011, 07:48 PM

The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.

marlboroack · 05-05-2011, 08:01 PM

I think they are all fucking stupid and create way to much drama. I couldn't find that on the Poll opions or anything close to it.

brassmonkey · 05-05-2011, 08:11 PM

sure i don't use facebook hahaha!!

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 08:12 PM

RT: And social networking, what role, do you think, sites like Facebook and Twitter, have played in the revolutions in the Middle East? How easy, would you say, is it to manipulate media like that?
JA: Facebook in particular is the most appalling spying machine that has ever been invented. Here we have the world’s most comprehensive database about people, their relationships, their names, their addresses, their locations and the communications with each other, their relatives, all sitting within the United States, all accessible to US intelligence. Facebook, Google, Yahoo – all these major US organizations have built-in interfaces for US intelligence. It’s not a matter of serving a subpoena. They have an interface that they have developed for US intelligence to use.
Now, is it the case that Facebook is actually run by US intelligence? No, it’s not like that. It’s simply that US intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure on them. And it’s costly for them to hand out records one by one, so they have automated the process. Everyone should understand that when they add their friends to Facebook, they are doing free work for United States intelligence agencies in building this database for them.

woj · 05-05-2011, 08:31 PM

If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...

you'd be surprised. pedo groups get busted regularly, human traffickers, shit i know people who slang dope on there ...

woj · 05-05-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

you'd be surprised. pedo groups get busted regularly, human traffickers, shit i know people who slang dope on there ...

those are just amateur idiots, I really doubt any serious "homeland security" type criminals would hang out on there... but I guess who knows, I might be giving people too much credit, criminals might actually be THAT stupid....

Seth Manson · 05-05-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.

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epass007 · 05-06-2011, 01:25 AM

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moeloubani · 05-06-2011, 01:40 AM

im sure they already have something like this

Emil · 05-06-2011, 01:53 AM

Very scary. Good thing I dont use FB.
I have plans to replace my gmail also...

lagcam · 05-06-2011, 02:28 AM

Yes, but I don't use facebook so it's not really up to me to decide.

Seth Manson · 05-06-2011, 02:32 AM

I'm not worried. They can check out how often I play Backyard Monsters if they want to.

MaDalton · 05-06-2011, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.

but it's for your safety and if you don't do anything illegal you should have nothing to hide

u-Bob · 05-06-2011, 03:16 AM

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

u-Bob · 05-06-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...

Government agencies don't want xs to fb data to catch terrorists, but to locate hidden assets, find more info about possible tax evaders,...

wehateporn · 05-06-2011, 03:37 AM

This is the reason why Facebook is here today, this is why the CIA investment firm moved in and made them big

seeandsee · 05-06-2011, 05:06 AM

they probably already have access to anything they want

wehateporn · 05-06-2011, 07:49 AM

Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)

Agent 488 · 05-06-2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

those are just amateur idiots, I really doubt any serious "homeland security" type criminals would hang out on there... but I guess who knows, I might be giving people too much credit, criminals might actually be THAT stupid....

yeah on google news i come across more organized operations using it, mostly it seems to message people maybe, along with the regular idiots like someone claiming disability and posting pics of them barrel rolling on their open fb ....

pornguy · 05-06-2011, 07:54 AM

They still have something called the Patriot act and that gives them any damn thing they want.

Barry-xlovecam · 05-06-2011, 08:13 AM

If you are stupid enough to use your real identity and location on Facebook and further communicate any incriminating information on Facebook — you are guilty of being a total asswipe ... Any public posting is "plain sight" evidence — no warrant is needed for that.

However, without a warrant, none of the information obtained in a search of your Facebook account is admissible in any US Court. Maybe, there are ways to do so under the US PATRIOT Act.

Information gathered this way may not be used in a court proceeding but if not brought to light could be used "unlawfully" in any police or government investigation. This is done all the time if you are not aware of it ...

96ukssob · 05-06-2011, 08:14 AM

depends on how safe you want to feel

Rochard · 05-06-2011, 08:41 AM

They need to get a warrant, just like anything else.

_Richard_ · 05-06-2011, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)

this true or you bullshittin

ottopottomouse · 05-06-2011, 09:05 AM

Course they should. It's vital they can read all about what you had for lunch and the quality of this mornings shit.

Phoenix · 05-06-2011, 09:07 AM

they already have it...the backers of facebook are the cia

spazlabz · 05-06-2011, 09:09 AM

shit let them have access... why pretend there are rights to privacy when the government has already stopped the charade

BVF · 05-06-2011, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)

Tom_PM · 05-06-2011, 09:16 AM

There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.

spazlabz · 05-06-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.

a counter point to that well thought out argument. People have been sued for making private information available on line. I am not sure (not sarcasm here) but that appears to contradict the lack of expectation or privacy online

Tom_PM · 05-06-2011, 09:33 AM

Fights in courts are always part of the process, so thats always ok in my mind. But if a company is breached for example and their data is released, that seems a different situation. You might sue because you were assured a secure system safe from hacking with implied guarantee's or whatever.

d-null · 05-06-2011, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.

the thing is in this digital age, our phones are connected, our contacts, our gps positions from our phones, etc, all linked together, and starting to be from an early age the information is compiled

wehateporn · 05-06-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_

this true or you bullshittin

This is UK, not sure if it's the same in the US, but if you consider that they can take your laptop off you at the airport for no reason and search the harddrive, and if you consider that they can search your house, it's not much different

helterskelter808 · 05-06-2011, 12:20 PM

I'd trust the Government with personal info more than I'd trust Facebook.

View Poll Results: Should homeland security have backdoor access to everything?
I'm not doing anything wrong, of course they should have access to everything, doesn't bother me	2	7.14%
Facebook is evil, I have no Facebook and it serves people right if they post their info	8	28.57%
They should only have access if they get a search warrant from a judge	10	35.71%
George Orwell warned of something like this, it will happen and it will only get worse	20	71.43%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	assange says they already have backdoors into facebook/google. http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-revelat...nge-interview/ i believe him.

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