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Old 05-24-2011, 04:00 PM   #1
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nice app
using social network as the basis for the swarm

not as good at getting you the seed density of open swarm

but since the only way to collect information about a particular downloader is be on their list of friends

this means assuming you keep control of your friends list (or only import people you know0

your now totally ann when sharing/downloading on bit torrent.
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really nice! keep up the good work
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Wow, you are really all about stealing shit.
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Wow, you are really all about stealing shit.
actually this is a consequence of not supporting the technology for BUYERS
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Any other forum and gideongallery would have already been banned for telling people how to steal and pirate. As much as he hates GFY, he should at least appreciate that fact.
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Any other forum and gideongallery would have already been banned for telling people how to steal and pirate. As much as he hates GFY, he should at least appreciate that fact.
and you would be banned for bald face lying about what i am saying

i defend fair use and privacy rights

people should have to give up their privacy rights when they use the technology in a legitimate way (like using torrents like a vcr/backup/recovery)

even if other people use it for illegitimate use.

saying otherwise is the same as saying that all porn should be outlawed simply because some people produce kiddie porn.
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and you would be banned for bald face lying about what i am saying
You're posting information about how people can steal or pirate without getting caught. That is a fact.
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Any other forum and gideongallery would have already been banned for telling people how to steal and pirate. As much as he hates GFY, he should at least appreciate that fact.
GFY = anti file sharing!

as opposed to aus.tv where torrent links are FAQ
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GFY = anti file sharing!

as opposed to aus.tv where torrent links are FAQ
that just stupid

file sharing is a technlogical shift

it can be used for legitimate purposes (fair use and authorized distribution)

or piracy

gfy should not be anti-file sharing only anti piracy


rather than blindly lashing out at the technology shift you should be trying to figuire out how to make money from the technological shift

embracing rather then fighting the fair use right this shift creates is the way to go.
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All double speak for stealing.
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I use bit torrent sites to store hundreds of these:

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You're posting information about how people can steal or pirate without getting caught. That is a fact.
it can be used for stealing content

it could also be used to keep your privacy protected when you use the torrent for legitimate purposes

it technology that i am talking about

not the USE of the technology.

you link to sites that could have kiddie porn somewhere on those tgp by your logic if you don't completely clean the entire internet of kiddie porn your supporting kiddie porn whenever you buy/submit galleries.
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you link to sites that could have kiddie porn somewhere on those tgp by your logic if you don't completely clean the entire internet of kiddie porn your supporting kiddie porn whenever you buy/submit galleries.
Now you're accusing me of linking to kiddie porn?
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you link to sites that could have kiddie porn somewhere on those tgp by your logic if you don't completely clean the entire internet of kiddie porn your supporting kiddie porn whenever you buy/submit galleries.
what exactly about this statement do you not understand

your accusing me of supporting stealing because i talk about a technology that CAN be used to steal (a minority because more than 1/2 of all bit torrent traffic is tv shows ).
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And no tv shows are copyrighted ......
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and if porn was illegal everyone in GFY would download a file sharing program

it's all anarchy in GFY all the way until you need the law to protect YOU!
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And no tv shows are copyrighted ......
every right the vcr gives me applies to cloud/swarm.


of course their copyrighted but that doesn't change the fact that betamax case gives every person who has a tv the right to timeshift that content.
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Wouldn't help to call his mom...she's still trying to get him to move out on the basement and get his own place. But so far he hasn't been able to download an apartment from a bit torrent site.
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Wouldn't help to call his mom...she's still trying to get him to move out on the basement and get his own place. But so far he hasn't been able to download an apartment from a bit torrent site.
That's pretty funny!
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I swore I saw this same thread in 2008?

Or is this just a new one of the same thing?
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Wouldn't help to call his mom...she's still trying to get him to move out on the basement and get his own place. But so far he hasn't been able to download an apartment from a bit torrent site.
Maybe he can time shift a lease agreement..
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Wouldn't help to call his mom...she's still trying to get him to move out on the basement and get his own place. But so far he hasn't been able to download an apartment from a bit torrent site.
But Gideon said he was holding classes where he was bringing in 10 people per week and charging them $5,000 each plus a lifetime royalty on whatever they earned using his techniques. So clearly he is making at least $50K per week so he must be rolling in cash right now and is typing his bullshit logic from a penthouse suit.

As a matter of fact he isn't responding right now because he access shifted three smoking hot playmates to his bedroom and they currently taking turns tonging his "swarm."

Gideon would never lie about such a thing would he?

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and you would be banned for bald face lying about what i am saying

i defend fair use and privacy rights

people should have to give up their privacy rights when they use the technology in a legitimate way (like using torrents like a vcr/backup/recovery)

even if other people use it for illegitimate use.

saying otherwise is the same as saying that all porn should be outlawed simply because some people produce kiddie porn.
You have said all along that copyright holders should not go after torrent sites, but that they should go after those who are illegally downloading the copyrighted material. With this new technology in place exactly how do you suggest they go about at?
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Do you think XEROX thought they'd end up being responsible for 1,000,000,000s of stealing offences when they invented the photococopier?
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I've tried it months ago. The download speeds are very slow... But it will be a good alternative if "they" manage to sue pirates.

http://anomos.info/ is another alternative.
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You have said all along that copyright holders should not go after torrent sites, but that they should go after those who are illegally downloading the copyrighted material. With this new technology in place exactly how do you suggest they go about at?
are you actually trying to argue that EVERYONE should lose their right to privacy simply because it would be hard to procecute people who might use that right to privacy to hide criminal behavior.
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Do you think XEROX thought they'd end up being responsible for 1,000,000,000s of stealing offences when they invented the photococopier?
get it thru your head inventing a technology that CAN be used both an infringing and non infringing use does not make you responsible when it is abused to commit infringment.
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Do you think XEROX thought they'd end up being responsible for 1,000,000,000s of stealing offences when they invented the photococopier?
How many people read photocopied books?
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a technology that CAN be used both an infringing and non infringing use does not make you responsible when it is abused to commit infringment.
No, that's where integrity, common sense and ethics should take over -- but you don't appear to have any of those three.
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No, that's where integrity, common sense and ethics should take over -- but you don't appear to have any of those three.
says the guy who wants to take privacy rights away from people who are doing nothing wrong with the technology just to get at those who are doing something wrong.

you might want to look in the mirror when you start throwing accusations like that around.
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But Gideon said he was holding classes where he was bringing in 10 people per week and charging them $5,000 each plus a lifetime royalty on whatever they earned using his techniques. So clearly he is making at least $50K per week so he must be rolling in cash right now and is typing his bullshit logic from a penthouse suit.
That was last years fantasy. This year he's back to being the master of the internets and an "inventor" (remember his bit torrent DVR?)
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You can get 50 people queuing for 20 photocopiers, just goes all day, quite a rhythm to it!
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and you would be banned for bald face lying about what i am saying

i defend fair use and privacy rights

people should have to give up their privacy rights when they use the technology in a legitimate way (like using torrents like a vcr/backup/recovery)

even if other people use it for illegitimate use.

saying otherwise is the same as saying that all porn should be outlawed simply because some people produce kiddie porn.

Good points...
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are you actually trying to argue that EVERYONE should lose their right to privacy simply because it would be hard to procecute people who might use that right to privacy to hide criminal behavior.
No, I just want you to answer the question. You say that copyright holders should go after those who download illegally not the torrent sites nor the technology, yet you are a proponent of a technology that will make that impossible to do.

You and I are are are clearly two different ends of the spectrum. I want the copyright holders to maintain most of the rights to their work, you want them to surrender pretty much all of their rights in the name of fair use and you want to take away the tools that a copyright holder could use to go after those who do download illegally.

So tell me, if anyone can download anonymously, how do you propose people protect their material from those who are downloading it illegally?
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You must be missing the .jpg plugin or the html plugin.
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No, I just want you to answer the question. You say that copyright holders should go after those who download illegally not the torrent sites nor the technology, yet you are a proponent of a technology that will make that impossible to do.
please it only impossible if you limit your friends to people you have personally verified.
do you know how difficult it is to keep perfect control over your friends list.

this pushes file sharing back to the 1:circle of friends you keep refering to being ok when i keep bringin up the vcr.

if it not a problem when your using it as a justification to differentiate between sharing to the swarm vs sharing betamax tapes
then the limitation should invalidate your objects to the filesharing in this case.

you can't have it both ways.



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wow so me being against them using the copyright monopoly to select medium of distribution is surrendering all rights.




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so make new tools

ones that allow you to investigate without violating peoples privacy right

or embrace the technology so that it just becomes another distribution channel.

or maybe use more expensive tried and true investigative techniques that have served police for years when they go after the big piracy rings (just becuase they are not cost effective when going after individual doesn't justify not using them)
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