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TubeKing · 06-05-2011, 06:53 AM

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18190763&postcount=366

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Will email you the details, it was from one of the sites Shap bought that had our a license for our content that he re-licensed. Now I'm assuming Manwin has bought the site and with it using the content, so it needs a new license.

Think of licenses like traffic. If you buy the site you get the traffic and need to pay for it.

I'm sure as someone who wants to clean up Manwin's act, you'll be only too happy to make sure everything is right.

this gem needed it owns thread.

like some huge company cares about your shitty content you probably shot 11 years ago ROFL.

fris · 06-05-2011, 06:59 AM

he has always been anal about his content agreements, like if you bought a site from someone he would always try and milk the new owner cause he "didnt buy" from him, they needed a special agreement to take over the content.

Barefootsies · 06-05-2011, 07:03 AM

His license is no different than the majority of others I have seen in this industry.

Paul just makes a bigger stink about it.

Internet User · 06-05-2011, 07:03 AM

the site would do better if P.M. content was removed from it entirely.

CurrentlySober · 06-05-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

he has always been anal about his content agreements, like if you bought a site from someone he would always try and milk the new owner cause he "didnt buy" from him, they needed a special agreement to take over the content.

I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

fris · 06-05-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

plus his content is more stale than 3 month old milk

TubeKing · 06-05-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

He's old as fuck and probably has little to no new income coming in since his content is shitty so he needs every cent he can get his wrinkly hands on

L-Pink · 06-05-2011, 07:14 AM

If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

TubeKing · 06-05-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

This thread isn't about his dated content or license, it's more about the fact he thought it so important to bring up in Shap's sale thread

L-Pink · 06-05-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeKing

This thread isn't about his dated content or license, it's more about the fact he thought it so important to bring up in Shap's sale thread

My bad, If this is a lack of class thread then count me in. That was pretty cheesy of him.

ArsewithClass · 06-05-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeKing

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18190763&postcount=366

this gem needed it owns thread.

like some huge company cares about your shitty content you probably shot 11 years ago ROFL.

TubeKing, a little harsh I think

Any company, big or small, should care about licensed content

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

Thats what I thought...

2intense · 06-05-2011, 09:38 AM

Agent 488 · 06-05-2011, 09:40 AM

congrats shap on the retirement.

CurrentlySober · 06-05-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

congrats shap on the retirement.

Contrats 2intense on the bot...

Rochard · 06-05-2011, 10:19 AM

Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

Internet User · 06-05-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

k0nr4d · 06-05-2011, 11:14 AM

I think this more depends on if manwin bought twisties the corporation or twisties the sites. If they bought the company itself then the corp twisties that bought the licenses is still the one running and owning it.

iSpyCams · 06-05-2011, 11:35 AM

Yea I am pretty sure there would be a lot less acquisitions going on if the acquirer had to buy all the damn licenses again.

GatorB · 06-05-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

Just because one has the right to be a douche doesn't me on SHOULD be a douche. I'm just saying.

19teenporn · 06-05-2011, 12:36 PM

What an asshole

ArsewithClass · 06-05-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

It depends on the small print, but more than likely, a license can be sold on along with the sites.

No need to call Paul an idiot

sometimes assuming can make only the one assuming act like an idiot

Jakez · 06-05-2011, 01:32 PM

lol I bought some content from him a while ago but never used it. I would post it here for free if I could find it.

DWB · 06-05-2011, 02:16 PM

I'd be interested in knowing which of you who are busting his balls for licensing actually own any content yourselves. If you did, or did so in a professional manner and made a living at it, you probably wouldn't be saying anything.

There is a license for a reason and it has to be followed to the terms stated on it.

DWB · 06-05-2011, 02:27 PM

And... none of us have seen the license or the exact deal between Manwin and Twistys. If Paul claims it needs to be updated, I can only assume he would know and Manwin will deal with it accordingly.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-05-2011, 02:29 PM

His content, his license, his agreement that the buyer agreed to when licensing.
If there is a non transfer clause...

Pay the man.

Agent 488 · 06-05-2011, 02:30 PM

people are busting paul's balls because he is as tactless, tone-deaf and self-centered as usual, trying to haggle a deal in a farewell and thank you thread.

no one gives a fuck about the minutiae of a licensing deal.

lagcam · 06-05-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

And... none of us have seen the license or the exact deal between Manwin and Twistys. If Paul claims it needs to be updated, I can only assume he would know and Manwin will deal with it accordingly.

I think the point here is the time and place and manner that the subject was brought up, not that the license is unfair in any way.

AnimeFevers · 06-05-2011, 05:39 PM

Damn we got some harsh bastards on GFY

merina0803 · 06-05-2011, 06:03 PM

Mike Honcho · 06-05-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Internet User

legit lol

DWB · 06-06-2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

I think the point here is the time and place and manner that the subject was brought up, not that the license is unfair in any way.

Can't argue that.

DamianJ · 06-06-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

I'd never buy anything from someone who admits, and I quote "my content isn't good enough anymore".

DamianJ · 06-06-2011, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

TubeKing, a little harsh I think

Any company, big or small, should care about licensed content

Thats what I thought...

I fucking just *love* how you are acting as Paul's little fanclub during his Hiding Period.

Very funny.

It's like a retarded spastic kitten who shits himself following around someone looking for love.

prezzz · 06-06-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I think this more depends on if manwin bought twisties the corporation or twisties the sites. If they bought the company itself then the corp twisties that bought the licenses is still the one running and owning it.

My thoughts exactly. As long as the actual licensee doesn't change, the license should be left intact. Otherwise, whenever a corporation would be the licensee, would the license go invalid whenever its shareholders change?

ottopottomouse · 06-06-2011, 04:12 AM

Must be a difficult jigsaw this week for him to stay away.

ArsewithClass · 06-06-2011, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Must be a difficult jigsaw this week for him to stay away.

Maybe he just has more dignity that some of the morons here... ( thats not @ you otto )

I cant be bothered to answer some posts directed towards me. Its tit for tat, bullshit lies, just going on & on, its boring & tedious

Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction, than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not

I never have btw

DamianJ · 06-06-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Maybe he just has more dignity

I think you're confusing 'dignity' with 'cowardice'. Easy mistake to make, seeing as you left school aged 12 to clean chim chimineys.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

I cant be bothered to answer some posts directed towards me.

Or, you know I just make you look even more like an idiot the more you carry on?

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Its tit for tat, bullshit lies, just going on & on, its boring & tedious

Stop lying then. Easy.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction,

Yeah. You are an AWESOME business man. Lie about the council letting you set up a cam studio, then buy some timber, build it yourself, at a cost of 20k (lol) before you even HAVE A FUCKING CLUE about a) what a cam studio does b) how to sell cam girls c) where to get traffic for cams d) which software you need.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not

I never have btw

More lies. There are PICTURES of you with a fucking mullet. As I've said before, if you're going to lie, and it seems you can't help it, at least make it a believable lie.

LOLLINGTON LOL. Lying pikey.

ottopottomouse · 06-06-2011, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction, than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not

I never have btw

Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

DamianJ · 06-06-2011, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

I've seen the blueprint for his studio.

Rain isn't a prob when the council approve a tarp like this!

ArsewithClass · 06-06-2011, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

The suns due back out this week

To be honest, with all this going on, I havent had much time for the sun this year

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

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iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	Yea I am pretty sure there would be a lot less acquisitions going on if the acquirer had to buy all the damn licenses again.

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I'd be interested in knowing which of you who are busting his balls for licensing actually own any content yourselves. If you did, or did so in a professional manner and made a living at it, you probably wouldn't be saying anything. There is a license for a reason and it has to be followed to the terms stated on it.

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	And... none of us have seen the license or the exact deal between Manwin and Twistys. If Paul claims it needs to be updated, I can only assume he would know and Manwin will deal with it accordingly.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	people are busting paul's balls because he is as tactless, tone-deaf and self-centered as usual, trying to haggle a deal in a farewell and thank you thread. no one gives a fuck about the minutiae of a licensing deal. Last edited by Agent 488; 06-05-2011 at 02:31 PM..

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