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Old 06-13-2011, 08:52 PM   #51
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thats what i meant by bait and switch. get the viewers in and get rid of the star. i probably wont watch season 2.
If there is a book already out for 15 years that says this character DIES then how were you duped? Unless you are just a total moron.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:02 PM   #52
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thats what i meant by bait and switch. get the viewers in and get rid of the star. i probably wont watch season 2.
Then you are making a mistake. Because Ned's death is the catalyst that drives the rest of the series.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:05 AM   #53
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:30 AM   #54
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The beauty of the series is that no on is safe. It has definitely replaced WoT as my favorite series.
Yep, great show for sure. I hope they make at least 1 season per book if not more.
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:40 AM   #55
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Considering all of his books were top sellers, when were they not cool?
i was one of the orignal fans, maybe you were as well

before all these tv fans showed up..lol
im surprised at the reaction to the ending

i always thought jon snow was more important to the story

i cant wait for the final books
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Old 06-14-2011, 04:50 AM   #56
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Haven't read the books, nor did I watch the show...

What is better, the books or the show?
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:06 AM   #57
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from the reaction in this thread its time I get on this... I have no idea whats going on...
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:26 AM   #58
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I ended up liking the show so much that I went out and bought the book (1st of the series as many know)... and am reading it pretty much along with the show. Probably one of the best I've seen yet in terms of sticking to the story line throughout the books; not to mention an all around great show.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:28 AM   #59
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It's awasome truely a super tv show
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So by the first several comments... I'm going to assume Ned recanted his previous statement regarding Joff in order to save his daughter, and then Joff had him beheaded anyway?

No, I haven't gotten to that part in the book, and haven't seen ep 9 yet, just making an obvious guess... Though I will be kind of pissed if it's true, considering Ned is like the only honest guy in the whole show/book...

If the above is true, I guess I'll be rooting for the Dothraki as I make my way through the books...
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Just watched it.. thought so

Ned should've just stuck to his honor and told the "gods and men" that Joff is a twink bastard IMHO.

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So by the first several comments... I'm going to assume Ned recanted his previous statement regarding Joff in order to save his daughter, and then Joff had him beheaded anyway?

No, I haven't gotten to that part in the book, and haven't seen ep 9 yet, just making an obvious guess... Though I will be kind of pissed if it's true, considering Ned is like the only honest guy in the whole show/book...

If the above is true, I guess I'll be rooting for the Dothraki as I make my way through the books...
You would be correct;)
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Just watched it.. thought so

Ned should've just stuck to his honor and told the "gods and men" that Joff is a twink bastard IMHO.
I think had both his daughters been safely outside of Kings Landing he probably would have said that he was a bastard child of incest but he did what he did to save his daugher. I don't think he cared for his own life at that point.
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I think had both his daughters been safely outside of Kings Landing he probably would have said that he was a bastard child of incest but he did what he did to save his daugher. I don't think he cared for his own life at that point.
that was made clear in the tv series

he said he would not trade his honor for a few more years of his life

then the bald guy asked what about the lives of his daughters and then he changed his mind.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:57 AM   #67
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i always thought jon snow was more important to the story
i have only read the first book

but i got the feeling that jon snow was the ice

and Daenerys Targaryen (khaleesi) was the fire

in the song of ice and fire

those two are the "real" main characters of the series
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As I continue reading the first book, I have to ask myself if I want to continue the rest. This first book has been less about anything but drama, and G. R. R. Martin seems to have a hardon for little twink bastard boys having their scar faced minions beat on the girl he's supposed to marry. The end of this book is becoming quite twisted and to be honest, ridiculous imho.

I really hope the next book doesn't spend the first 300 pages describing how little bastard king Joff continues to have the Hound beat on Sansa (even though she's been a twat throughout half the book lol)... oops, sorry to ruin half of next weeks episode ><

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As I continue reading the first book, I have to ask myself if I want to continue the rest. This first book has been less about anything but drama, and G. R. R. Martin seems to have a hardon for little twink bastard boys having their scar faced minions beat on the girl he's supposed to marry. The end of this book is becoming quite twisted and to be honest, ridiculous imho.

I really hope the next book doesn't spend the first 300 pages describing how little bastard king Joff continues to have the Hound beat on Sansa (even though she's been a twat throughout half the book lol)... oops, sorry to ruin half of next weeks episode ><
why are you such a loser? i mean really, why? so many posts and no one spoils anything and then you come in like a fucking loser and fuck up the next episode

im serious when i ask you this...why? do you think youre cool? do you know youre a loser and just act that way because thats what you are? why?
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i have only read the first book

but i got the feeling that jon snow was the ice

and Daenerys Targaryen (khaleesi) was the fire

in the song of ice and fire

those two are the "real" main characters of the series
totally nice grab
there are other important stories, keep reading i cant wait for the next books
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i have only read the first book

but i got the feeling that jon snow was the ice

and Daenerys Targaryen (khaleesi) was the fire

in the song of ice and fire

those two are the "real" main characters of the series
I gotta say, that's pretty fucking astute. When I read the first book, I wondered who the main characters were. I always thought it was the bastard, as a cosmic justice kind of thing. As you read the rest of the books, Jon grows, in every way as a character/person. I re read the series last month, so much I forgot. You will find out that you guessed correctly by the 3rd book.
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i cant even fathom what is going to emerge out of that dothraki tent next episode...can't wait
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This serie is very cool... But honestly i where also really suprised of the ending this time...but how in the World will i be able to wait for a whole yeah for the next season after the next episode is done
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Jon Snow.

The prevailing theory of the fans is that Jon Snow is not Ned Stark's (Sean Bean's character) bastard son. Rather, it was ruse to protect Jon. His true parents are Lyanna Stark (Ned's sister) and Rhaegar Targaryen (Mad King's eldest son). Both were killed during the fighting that seated King Baratheon. The books say Ned found Lyanna (who was supposed to marry Baratheon), and she said "promise me . . ." before dying.

So, that makes Jon a "Dragon" and true blood-line heir of the throne.
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Jon Snow.

The prevailing theory of the fans is that Jon Snow is not Ned Stark's (Sean Bean's character) bastard son. Rather, it was ruse to protect Jon. His true parents are Lyanna Stark (Ned's sister) and Rhaegar Targaryen (Mad King's eldest son). Both were killed during the fighting that seated King Baratheon. The books say Ned found Lyanna (who was supposed to marry Baratheon), and she said "promise me . . ." before dying.

So, that makes Jon a "Dragon" and true blood-line heir of the throne.
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It's a good theory. But here's the problem with that theory... Anyone who knew about it is... Dead.
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why are you such a loser? i mean really, why? so many posts and no one spoils anything and then you come in like a fucking loser and fuck up the next episode

im serious when i ask you this...why? do you think youre cool? do you know youre a loser and just act that way because thats what you are? why?
Really? I ruined the whole episode by telling that the twink is also a coward who would have his hound beat Sansa into submission? By all means then.. but I dare say there is much more than that and in reality, that'll probably take up 2 minutes of screen time.

I mean, being that I'm a loser and all, I could tell you 3/4 of the next episode now, and the rest in an hour.. if you'd like.

But to answer your question, seriously, I didn't post anything for the sake of trying to be "cool".. I posted in slight disgust for the direction the book was taking. Sorry if I ruined the whole next episode for you by informing you that Joffery is such a coward that he couldn't control anything without his hound to do his bidding; even though that's not even the half of whats to come next week...

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It's a good theory. But here's the problem with that theory... Anyone who knew about it is... Dead.
Except for, maybe, the old blind guy at the wall. He was a targaeryon so he might know the truth. It is doubtful but who knows.
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Just finished the book and... oh shit is all I'm going to say. For those not reading, or who haven't read the book(s).. season 2 is going to seem so far away.
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Except for, maybe, the old blind guy at the wall. He was a targaeryon so he might know the truth. It is doubtful but who knows.
Ummmm. I don't want to ruin the future books for you, but I was correct in my earlier post.
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