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ICANN Just Made Parked .Coms Worthless
I understand that ICANN is expecting as many as 1,000 new gtld applications in the next year or so. And, I know you haven't trademarked all those parked domains.....
![]() If so, everything parked without a site will be pretty much useless real estate as every imaginable extension will be open for name registration rendering unused .coms pretty much worthless cause if nobody wants them now, the situation is only going to get worse. I'd seriously consider a fire sale at this time! ![]() ![]() ![]() Just my opinion....... ![]() |
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Perhaps.
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I for one think the that more gTLD's will just make .com's that much more valuable. Shit, I actually hope somebody is very, very successful with a site name to which I own the .com.
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How often do people actually use something other than com, net, or org as is? Every now and then a "vanity" extension makes sense, but in general, people go for com
When you tell people about a site you say "CNN.com", are people going to be saying "www.weirdname.weirdextension"? Don't know. Like I said, options are already available with a variety of extensions. People still go back to com, net, and org.
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Parking has been worthless for awhile. But there will always be value in the right names. I only "park" mine now mostly for the "contact me" purpose which is where 90% of my inquiries come from. ICANN is just enriching themselves. Most of those new TLDs will be whats worthless. 1000s of them? At the cost of $180k+ a pop? I doubt it but they can only dream eh?
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Owning a .com will be like owning a horse buggy to most commercial enterprises.
Totally irrelevant to the new domain structure; but, very quaint. That being said, I don't think we will see many, if any, sexually-oriented domain names pass due to GAC objections to objectionable TDLs. Given that, .COM may eventually become "THE PORN" domain. Let the banks move to .bank or .company, etc. |
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at 180-300k for one, only the big boys will bother so unless you are holding out for six figures for all your domains, i wouldn't worry regardless. anyways, typing ".whatever" won't work, just typeing "whatever" won't work...so what the hell.. are people going to have to type in "www.whatever?".. or "product.whatever"? I'd say 80% of people will type "whatever.whatever.com" just out of pure habit. It will take another 15 years to re-educate the public. IF it catches on.. sure a company may rather buy one of these tld's instead of shelling out a million dollars for the .com but thats a fraction of domain sales.
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That's a good point, but you don't think a company like pizza.hutt wouldn't still pay big bucks for a domain like pizza.com for traffic, marketing or whatever?
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I'm not talking about used domains, just the parked ones. Pizza.com is always going to generate some good traffic.
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It will be hot for a while no doubt. Big companies will see the benefits of free publicity for being one of the first to dish out $180k. After a while people will simply become confused and inundated with a hundreds of different extensions.
"Wait!? How and where do I check my online statement now? Was is bac.bank, bac.money bank.america, bac.financialinstitution? ... geez, why don't they just use bankofamerica.com?" People are dumb and show no signs of getting smarter. |
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any good domains on da firesale table?
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Big news for huge companies and domain guys. Not going to increase my sales, or yours, in any manner.
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Unless you are going add a domain for each page because page2.company is a new domain. ![]()
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Based on the points many have made, these extensions aren't going to matter for quite some time. Sure, MAYBE 10+ years from now there might start being enough dilution and establishment of quality TLDs from it that .com might start to go downhill, but thus far, ".com killers" of the past 10+ years haven't done shit to .com - I don't see any compelling reason why these new TLDs will all of a sudden change that.
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I don't like parked domains myself, but they have the right to exist. I have a dozen or so undeveloped domains that I just haven't gotten around to. No one has the right to tell me I must put something on there or risk loosing them.
I look at domain names as renting property. I can rent out a location and do whatever I want with it. If I live in it or not, non of anyone's business so long as it's paid for.
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.com is and will remain king.
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so does that now mean that the .XXX lot will have to buy .XX and .X as well
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chicago.pizza sounds just as good as chicago.pizza.com
chicago.cars, chicago.dating, etc will take a while for surfers to get used to it, but possibilities are endless...
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I don't remember which article that I read said 10,000 domains......but,
this single conference said that among it's attendees, about 4,000 were considering a registration of some kind. Quote:
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It means that soon we'll have .sex, .porn ,.porno, .gay,... and it will be almost impossible for the ICM registry to maintain their claims that the .xxx tld is the true home for adult content.
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you are entitled to your opinion. i tend to disagree. Dot com is the beneficiary of a huge head start and it could be decades if ever that other extensions dilute the .com's. it is already happening that the public sees .whatever and still goes to the .com anyway. the other thing to consider is that parking is only one part of a domainer's income stream. flips are happening at an increasingly profitable multiple to the point where the flips are the bulk of the annual income and parking is like bonus money.
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People are adaptable. I remember the BBS days when people said "Internet??? To complicated, it will never catch on."
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Your comments about parked .com's being worthless as a result of ICANN's vote on new TLDs shows how little you understand about type-in traffic.
I doubt many companies are going to waste $180k+ to get their .whatever And even if they did, it would just increase the amount of type-in traffic to .com, as it's done with the last 10 years of new alt extensions.
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Would be better off telling people to go to pizza.com and then doing a geo to give them local pizza joints.
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Introducing free-form gTLDs is like allowing companies to choose their own freecall number prefix, rather than an accepted one like 1800. It will cause a lot of confusion.
Wonder who will be the first to pick up .con, .xom, .cpm etc |
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something along the lines of: "go to yourcity.pizza to order a pizza" they would just setup a catchall on .pizza tld...so anything.pizza would resolve... and all that for $200k, compared to few million that pizza.com sold for? seems like a pretty good value...
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This stuff just chaps my ass....
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Totally agree. Bring it.
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That 185k is to get you started. It will cost more tha that by the time you are done.
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.com is #1. here is prime example from today. I was searching for archive.org and 3 times I typed archive.com and thought for a moment the site was done until i did a google search and got the .org version.
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