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Old 06-21-2011, 01:42 AM   #1
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How do I see if I'm getting cheap or HQ bw from my host?

How do I see if I'm getting cheap or HQ bw from my host?
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:50 AM   #2
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Do a traceroute to your IP address, which will show you which networks the data goes through to get from your system to the server.

Start > run > 'cmd'
traceroute xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:52 AM   #3
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If you want to find out if your host plays the bandwidth switch. From your home computer open up command prompt or if linux open term.

Windows type TRACERT yourwebsite.com or ip address and hit enter

Linux type traceroute youwebsite.com or ip address and hit enter.

If your host is scamming you most likley your inbound traffic is coming in on a tier 1 provider, however when your outbound is going through a cheap bandwidth provider.

They also may not hide this at all. You also have to ask yourself what are you paying per mbit.

Next your host may have the upstream or most likely "fake upstreams" that they promised but they are over saturating there bandwidth.

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Old 06-21-2011, 07:05 AM   #4
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:11 AM   #5
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Keep in mind that the network names you see in a traceroute tell you little to nothing about
quality. There are ways to measure quality, but brand name isn't one of them.

For example, there are about 80,000 servers located in two Houston data centers - The Planet
and Level3. Those two data centers are a few hundred feet apart. If Cogent has a 10 Gb line
between those two buildings and Sprint routes through Dallas, which backbone do you think
is a better choice for connecting between networks in those two buildings?

In fact, unless you're streaming video over udp, what an adult site needs is bulk bandwidth,
to move big files quickly. "Quality" bandwidth with low jitter and latency is for voip, which
sips bandwidth at a slow rate which must be steady. That's not what you want for serving
video files, which need to get there as fast as possible. What a porn site needs is bandwidth
which isn't oversold, mostly.

We have servers in four data centers right now. I buy from someone who has plenty of "cheap" bandwidth to spare way before I buy from someone running tight on premium
bandwidth. Also what I want is someone with several upstream connections within two
hops, so that my traffic can be routed over the best network for that particular connection.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:44 PM   #7
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You need to mention also that "cheap bandwidth" is cheap for a reason.
It might be "good" routing wise, however, I have been in the meet me room
of 1 Wilshire and several other telco hotels we have crap in....

If you look at what Cogent has installed there in their cage versus what Level3
has there, you can see a BIG BIG difference.

First of all....

Cogent: No redundancy AT ALL in their cage. Single power supply, no backup blades
in the routers, HORRIBLE wiring. I can get you a photo of it, I took one with my cell
if I can find it I will post it...

Level3: CLEAN WIRING, Everything is labeled, EVERYTHING has backups and they have new in the box backup parts on a shelf waiting there "just in case". They have multiple Supervisor blades in fault tolerant mode in their chassis and etc...

I really find it funny that Cogent got all this money from Cisco yet has a horrible implementation of Cisco in their network, lol.

Reliability is key with premium providers. This could mean ALOT for ALOT of reasons.
Saving money is cool, but it's not always the right choice.

The "you get what you pay for" thing is kinda true.

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Old 06-21-2011, 03:32 PM   #8
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Does this tell anything about my bw being good or bad? This is a tracert from my home to one of my sites

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sagembox.home [192.168.1.1]
2 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 0x50a2515d.ge-0-1-0-1104.fxnqu1.dk.ip.tdc.net [80.162.81.91]
3 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae-0.alb2nqp7.dk.ip.tdc.net [83.88.21.85]
4 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms te1-4.ccr01.cph01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.9]
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms te0-3-0-2.ccr21.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.149]
6 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms te0-0-0-3.mpd21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.49.237]
7 137 ms 136 ms 137 ms te0-4-0-0.mpd21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.101]
8 163 ms 163 ms 163 ms te0-1-0-7.mpd21.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.225]
9 163 ms 163 ms 162 ms te0-1-0-2.mpd21.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.202]
10 169 ms 168 ms 167 ms te4-3.ccr01.sat01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.6]
11 188 ms 188 ms 188 ms te3-1.ccr01.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27.117]
12 188 ms 188 ms 192 ms vl3812.na41.b023003-0.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.20.49.218]
13 182 ms 181 ms 181 ms 38.104.116.74
14 182 ms 182 ms 181 ms vl177.cr1.cave.103.5.10.phx0.cwie.net [209.188.10.141]
15 182 ms 182 ms 182 ms 64.38.208.13
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:33 PM   #9
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Well, you are 100% cogent from that trace.
When you ssh into your server and traceroute to critical.net
what do you show?
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:48 PM   #10
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Does this tell anything about my bw being good or bad? This is a tracert from my home to one of my sites

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sagembox.home [192.168.1.1]
2 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 0x50a2515d.ge-0-1-0-1104.fxnqu1.dk.ip.tdc.net [80.162.81.91]
3 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae-0.alb2nqp7.dk.ip.tdc.net [83.88.21.85]
4 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms te1-4.ccr01.cph01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.9]
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms te0-3-0-2.ccr21.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.149]
6 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms te0-0-0-3.mpd21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.49.237]
7 137 ms 136 ms 137 ms te0-4-0-0.mpd21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.101]
8 163 ms 163 ms 163 ms te0-1-0-7.mpd21.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.225]
9 163 ms 163 ms 162 ms te0-1-0-2.mpd21.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.202]
10 169 ms 168 ms 167 ms te4-3.ccr01.sat01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.6]
11 188 ms 188 ms 188 ms te3-1.ccr01.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27.117]
12 188 ms 188 ms 192 ms vl3812.na41.b023003-0.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.20.49.218]
13 182 ms 181 ms 181 ms 38.104.116.74
14 182 ms 182 ms 181 ms vl177.cr1.cave.103.5.10.phx0.cwie.net [209.188.10.141]
15 182 ms 182 ms 182 ms 64.38.208.13
Yah that shows cogent.

Login to your box and traceroute to critical.net and see what it says. If its still cogent, then hits something else then you got your response
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:51 PM   #11
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Well, you are 100% cogent from that trace.
When you ssh into your server and traceroute to critical.net
what do you show?
I have no clue how to do that
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:54 PM   #12
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Is your server linux or?

If it is, login to it via ssh and type:

traceroute critical.net

show me the results.
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