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CDSmith · 06-28-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

It has been said that Casey Anthony was giving Caylee Xanax before she went out at night to make the kid pass out so she wouldn't need a babysitter. She was using the "Nanny Zanny" as an inside joke with her boyfriend, indicating she doped the kid before she went clubbing. It wouldn't be tough to accidentally overdose the kid, or even impair her to where she fell in the pool when she was on Xanax.

The theory for that is she/they panicked after Caylee drowned/overdosed on Xanax/etc. and put the tape over her mouth and dumped the body to cover it up and make it appear that she was abducted and killed. A strange theory but not out of the question...

Overall I like your theory. If the truth is anything even close to that, and they can prove it to a degree that is convictable, she (and anyone else involved) should rot in prison for a very long time.

There's definitely something very wrong with this chick, regardless of outcome.

cosis · 06-28-2011, 10:17 AM

She's a cruel monster. Hope she burns

ManuteBol · 06-28-2011, 10:42 AM

Krunky Krunk is on the hot seat now.

ManuteBol · 06-28-2011, 11:03 AM

Interesting, Krunk got a bunch of money and free attorney's fee's.

He also bragged about what was in the bag, before it had been opened.

VikingMan · 06-28-2011, 11:07 AM

The entire family and the people around them are trash.

Joshua G · 06-28-2011, 11:43 AM

just my opinion. but the cover up was so completely awful, its impossible for me to believe it was a pre-meditated death. If daddy was involved, or if casey was less retarded, they could have easily gotten away with this.

my guess is murder 2.

VikingMan · 06-28-2011, 12:29 PM

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just my opinion. but the cover up was so completely awful, its impossible for me to believe it was a pre-meditated death. If daddy was involved, or if casey was less retarded, they could have easily gotten away with this.

my guess is murder 2.

There are millions of highly emotional people following this case and as a result everyone connected to this case will live out an OJ Simpson type of existence. They will always be in a prison regardless of what happens.

LeRoy · 06-28-2011, 01:28 PM

Fry the bitch!

PornoMonster · 06-28-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

post evidence now!

That was just a guess, and now that I watched Krunk, I withdraw my statement (guess)

Krunk besides a few small story changes, and yes everyone has them, is a strong witness. I am not sure it worked out for the Defense with him, lol.

bean-aid · 06-28-2011, 02:27 PM

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That was just a guess, and now that I watched Krunk, I withdraw my statement (guess)

Krunk besides a few small story changes, and yes everyone has them, is a strong witness. I am not sure it worked out for the Defense with him, lol.

Except his testimony that he lifted the bag with his meter stick, all of a sudden found the skull by his feet and lifted it up by meter stick through right eye socket.

That coupled with him seeing a gray bag with a skull outside the bag 4 months prior.

It's the duct tape on the mouth that is circumstantial evidence toward 1st degree murder. Now they are going to say the duct tape that closed the bag could have easily attached itself to the rolling skull.

theking · 06-28-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Except his testimony that he lifted the bag with his meter stick, all of a sudden found the skull by his feet and lifted it up by meter stick through right eye socket.

That coupled with him seeing a gray bag with a skull outside the bag 4 months prior.

It's the duct tape on the mouth that is circumstantial evidence toward 1st degree murder. Now they are going to say the duct tape that closed the bag could have easily attached itself to the rolling skull.

Sorry...but you are confused about his testimony.

bean-aid · 06-28-2011, 02:48 PM

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Sorry...but you are confused about his testimony.

I don't think so. At first his statement was he lifted the bag and saw the skull.

On the stand he said he lifted the bag and then realized skull was by his feet... rotated/lifted it with his meter stick through right eye socket. That's what he said

theking · 06-28-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

I don't think so. At first his statement was he lifted the bag and saw the skull.

On the stand he said he lifted the bag and then realized skull was by his feet... rotated/lifted it with his meter stick through right eye socket. That's what he said

He did say that he lifted the skull but did not say that he lifted the bag...in fact I think he stated that he never touched the bag and I also think that the skull was in fact some distance away from the bag.

I will not argue the point but I watched all of his testimony and I do not think the Defense put a mark upon his testimony or him personally.

selena · 06-28-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I stream it all day too.

People go to jail for first degree murder based on circumstantial evidence all the time. Take Scott Peterson for example. I think there are many parallels to that case.

I haven't watched any of this case, but I agree with you on the Peterson one. I think he is in prison because he didn't grieve in a manner that people thought he should.

Choker · 06-28-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

He did say that he lifted the skull but did not say that he lifted the bag...in fact I think he stated that he never touched the bag and I also think that the skull was in fact some distance away from the bag.

I will not argue the point but I watched all of his testimony and I do not think the Defense put a mark upon his testimony or him personally.

He specifically said he lifted the bag about 4 feet off the ground.

bean-aid · 06-28-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

He specifically said he lifted the bag about 4 feet off the ground.

I missed this part of the prosecutors evidence but wasn't the bag found actually black, not grey?

The most obvious garbage bag is black, if it somewhat resembled black the 3 phone calls by Kronk would have said black in August. He specifically said grey. Coupled with both the skull outside the bag in August then skull in the bag, or outside, or somehow ended up by his feet in December makes no sense. Plus the closing is going to say the locations were much different... likely 100's of feet I think.

Prosecution is already planting that a hurricane happened between that time flooding the area and "possible" reason why locations are different.

The guy wanted money... knew he found the remains of the girl in August if not sooner, and tried to figure out the best way to capitalize. He probably went back in August and bagged the remains and moved them and was waiting for the opportune time to try and collect the money.

Did you see him on the stand? Downplaying the money?? "I think there was some reward money." It was $255,000 fucking dollars, it was the talk of the town for months... of course he wanted the reward money and knew exactly the amount. I am assuming that the reward money likely grew over the months as well, but I'm not sure of that.

Kronk also stated that in December he again went to take a pee and when asked by defense he was looking for the remains again he denied it. He then said he was just looking around, etc. If you need to pee you find the first tree and pee... you don't go perusing the forest.

ShellyCrash · 06-28-2011, 09:17 PM

Here's something interesting for you trial watchers.

A friend of mine in O-town sent this to me. This is from local news on Saturday, before it was out of the bag her defense team was ordering a psych evaluation. Very interesting flash of Casey's true colors:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28362472/index.html

Does it prove anything, no. Interesting, yes.

bean-aid · 06-28-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Here's something interesting for you trial watchers.

A friend of mine in O-town sent this to me. This is from local news on Saturday, before it was out of the bag her defense team was ordering a psych evaluation. Very interesting flash of Casey's true colors:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28362472/index.html

Does it prove anything, no. Interesting, yes.

HLN channel played that clip over and over. It has been over 30 days now and that is the only shot of her "looking" aggressive. They also play the clips of her smiling over and over to show that she has no emotion and a sociopath. Nancy Fucktwat Grace should seriously go fuck herself, never heard a more annoying totally biased cunt in my life.

That being said... I believe Casey likely did kill her daughter but not planned out as prosecution states. It was likely in a fit of rage and either an accident or due to her actions in a fit of rage caused the death.

But not a planned murder of her little girl.

She then freaked out and hid the body... then dumped the body. I doubt it was an accidental drowning and I doubt anybody else knew about it... at first.

So in summary... Nancy Grace is a twat, Casey Anthony does have an anger streak but do not think is a sociopath and everything after the little girls death was an attempt to escape responsibility for "whatever" had happened.

alessergod · 06-28-2011, 09:52 PM

Who gives a fuck? If she wasn't a little hottie and was a fat black chick there would be no coverage at all. They keep you bombarded so they don't have to spend time telling the important shit like how crooked Clarence Thomas is.

V_RocKs · 06-29-2011, 01:28 AM

No time for that

bean-aid · 06-29-2011, 11:49 AM

Anybody watching the trial today? Kronks son pretty convincing that his dad knew full well about kaylees remains well before december.

Usually the obvious makes sense. The point is the remains had been tampered with much more the eluded to by prosecution and kronk.

The problem with this trial nobody wants the truth. Prosecution wants a murder 1 charge and dismisses evidence that speaks otherwise.

shimmy2 · 06-29-2011, 01:34 PM

"heres your fucking gas cans" - caseys dad around lunchtime... and this was on the live feed. anyone catch that or got a clip?

marketsmart · 06-29-2011, 01:43 PM

i think she gave the kid some drugs, maybe chloroform, so she could go out and party..

the kid died..

she deserves a death sentence...

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Tom_PM · 06-29-2011, 02:19 PM

We know now that Kronk was sure it was a skeleton in November and he finally got sick of the cops not doing anything in December. He lifted the bag and the skull and that ruins the prosecutions idea that duct tape was a murder weapon. It DOES answer how the brain matter was in the left side of the skull even though the skull was "found" by police in an upright position: Kronk put it that way.

I totally disagree with all the tv commentators who seem to think the dad made a great witness today. I think he has made a terrible, awful witness every time he's on there. He 100% smells human decomposition but never calls the police? And he's a detective? There were so many maggots eating the garbage and pizza that it SOUNDED LIKE FRYING HAMBURGER???? How SICK is that!? I've never heard that sound before or smelled garbage that bad! But he's 100% sure it was human decomposition in the car once owned by his son, and now by his daughter and does nothign but bring it home and try to clean it?

He tries to kill himself by telling everyone he's ever known that he's going to do it, then not doing it for so long that the cops come and "stop" him from it? Then flies right to a tv interview then doesnt know who is paying for his ritz carleton hotel stay for 3 days? Really? He's a former detective and doesnt know shit about this stuff and yet wants to kill himself and fails?

Yet the tv talking heads simply feel he's a credible, grieving grandpa. Sure thing. Nothing weird about it at all. Everyone acts like that.

Look, I think she did it and/or was responsible for it anyway. But for fuck sakes, the only one in this family I believe so far is the son who seems determined to just say what he really said and say what he really did and let the chips fall where they may. The mom and especially the dad seem to be trying SO HARD to only say what will help the prosecution that it's suspect. To me.

PornoMonster · 06-29-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

i think she gave the kid some drugs, maybe chloroform, so she could go out and party..

the kid died..

she deserves a death sentence...

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That is why Zanny the nanny.

I bet she gave the child xanax, when the child passed out, it was like a nanny!

Choker · 06-29-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Anybody watching the trial today? Kronks son pretty convincing that his dad knew full well about kaylees remains well before december.

Usually the obvious makes sense. The point is the remains had been tampered with much more the eluded to by prosecution and kronk.

The problem with this trial nobody wants the truth. Prosecution wants a murder 1 charge and dismisses evidence that speaks otherwise.

I've noticed the same. How much was the reward that Kronk got?

CDSmith · 06-29-2011, 02:57 PM

Is it just me or does this Krunk guy have a case against the defence attorney (Baez?) for slander. I mean the attorney basically trashes Krunk in open televised court during his opening statement the other day, saying the guy is a money-grubbing this and he hid the remains that, basically saying he's a scumbag. Then when he gets Krunk on the stand he doesn't ask him one thing about any of that stuff he said about him.

In the US it seems anyone can sue anyone for anything. If I were Krunk I would definitely consider suing that dumbass Baez guy for slander. Sorry to any lawyer types here but if you're going to trash someone in that manner in open court in front of millions of viewers you better have the evidence to back up your accusations or else.

Btw, Baez's questions annoy the hell out of me. State of mind crap, did Casey's father or brother molest her etc etc... To me NONE of that shit matters. The only thing that matters in this case that a little girl is dead, and is there negligence or murder involved on the part of the mother. That's it. If they focused on that the case would be over in a few weeks tops.

Tom_PM · 06-29-2011, 02:57 PM

The two sides never seek the truth. They just advocate on behalf of their clients and the jury has to do whatever they can to find reasonable doubt or not.

For instance IMHO, the entire attempt by the prosecution to deny the grief counsellor her expert status was a waste of time. Anyone can grieve in any way and it's entirely possible that you'd never know who was grieving or not. All well and good. All they had to do was ask her "Can you state factually whether or not this defendant was or is or will ever be grieving or show grief in any recognizable way?" Answer: No. "thank you no further questions".

The jury is not going to be schooled, during the trial of their lives, about grief no matter who says what. General info on grief was a waste of time and if anything, the jury will resent the prosecution for dragging it out for hours and hours. IMHO.

justinsain · 06-29-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I've noticed the same. How much was the reward that Kronk got?

I'm not sure but I believe he didn't receive the reward money because they said the money was only going to be given if she were found alive.
I think a much smaller amount was given to him from some other source.

I remember when they were organizing searches and asking for volunteers. I have a Jeep and a dog that could sniff out a single chicken bone in a 20 acre lot.
I considered going out with my dog and spending the day in the fields but they were very strict on how to search and I didn't want to deal with it.

At no time do I recall them stating the reward was for only finding the child alive. It was always for finding Caylee.
I was shocked to learn they weren't going to give the meter reader the reward money.

justinsain · 06-29-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Is it just me or does this Krunk guy have a case against the defence attorney (Baez?) for slander. I mean the attorney basically trashes Krunk in open televised court during his opening statement the other day, saying the guy is a money-grubbing this and he hid the remains that, basically saying he's a scumbag. Then when he gets Krunk on the stand he doesn't ask him one thing about any of that stuff he said about him.

In the US it seems anyone can sue anyone for anything. If I were Krunk I would definitely consider suing that dumbass Baez guy for slander. Sorry to any lawyer types here but if you're going to trash someone in that manner in open court in front of millions of viewers you better have the evidence to back up your accusations or else.

Btw, Baez's questions annoy the hell out of me. State of mind crap, did Casey's father or brother molest her etc etc... To me NONE of that shit matters. The only thing that matters in this case that a little girl is dead, and is there negligence or murder involved on the part of the mother. That's it. If they focused on that the case would be over in a few weeks tops.

It was stated by one of the commentators that the attorneys have immunity in whatever they say during the trial and cannot be held accountable in the way you mean. This was brought up because during the opening statements Baez said that Casey learned to lie because as a girl she would have to go to school right after having her father's penis in her mouth.

Until Casey goes on the stand and testifies to that fact, it remains completely unsubstantiated and certainly destroyed George's reputation which one would think would be reason to go after Baez but he is immune.

CDSmith · 06-29-2011, 06:26 PM

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It was stated by one of the commentators that the attorneys have immunity in whatever they say during the trial and cannot be held accountable in the way you mean. This was brought up because during the opening statements Baez said that Casey learned to lie because as a girl she would have to go to school right after having her father's penis in her mouth.

Until Casey goes on the stand and testifies to that fact, it remains completely unsubstantiated and certainly destroyed George's reputation which one would think would be reason to go after Baez but he is immune.

In the example that you bring up the point makes perfect sense. He (Baez) made those statements BUT when he got the father on the stand he asked him those questions and let the guy at least answer to those statements made earlier.

But as I said in my post, the lawyer made all sorts of statements about Krunk, said in such a way as they weren't his opinion, but rather he was speaking in absolute terms, then when he had Krunk on the stand he DID NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THOSE ACCUSATIONS. Sorry, that is just plain wrong in my view.

And of course they're going to try to protect their asses with their convenient little "disclaimers" that they can't be held accountable etc early on in any trial. That doesn't make it right. Personally I'd tell them to shove their disclaimer up their asses if they said a bunch of made-up crap about me, and get a lawyer on them anyway. Civil courts, especially in the USA I've noticed, have a funny way of deciding for themselves what is and isn't actionable.

CDSmith · 06-29-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

The two sides never seek the truth. They just advocate on behalf of their clients and the jury has to do whatever they can to find reasonable doubt or not.

For instance IMHO, the entire attempt by the prosecution to deny the grief counsellor her expert status was a waste of time. Anyone can grieve in any way and it's entirely possible that you'd never know who was grieving or not. All well and good. All they had to do was ask her "Can you state factually whether or not this defendant was or is or will ever be grieving or show grief in any recognizable way?" Answer: No. "thank you no further questions".

The jury is not going to be schooled, during the trial of their lives, about grief no matter who says what. General info on grief was a waste of time and if anything, the jury will resent the prosecution for dragging it out for hours and hours. IMHO.

That's a prime example right there of how convoluted these kinds of trials get to become. Quibbling for days over who was grieving, or is the witness actually an expert in grieving etc. Christ shoot me now.

There is only ONE question that is relevant to a case like this and any like it, and it's not "who was grieving", or "What was her state of mind" or "Was she abused" etc. The ONLY relevant question is DID - SHE - DO - IT? As in was she negligent and/or responsible in any way for her little girl's death?

All this other side crap eating up days and weeks and untold millions of taxpayers money is just that --- crap.

bronco67 · 06-29-2011, 07:39 PM

Watching more than 2 minutes of that sucks the soul from my body. I feel sorry for the jurors.

justinsain · 06-29-2011, 09:52 PM

The defense said it will rest its case today in court.

It won't surprise me if they put Casey on the stand as their final attempt to sway the jury.

She was able to stand up yesterday morning and speak on her behalf on another matter. I found it interesting it went down that way and wondered if it was done purposely by her defense to see how she would handle that.

At this point I think she's lost the the trial. It is her choice as to whether she testifies or not and at this point it might be the only way to save her ass.

bean-aid · 06-30-2011, 11:41 AM

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The defense said it will rest its case today in court.

It won't surprise me if they put Casey on the stand as their final attempt to sway the jury.

She was able to stand up yesterday morning and speak on her behalf on another matter. I found it interesting it went down that way and wondered if it was done purposely by her defense to see how she would handle that.

At this point I think she's lost the the trial. It is her choice as to whether she testifies or not and at this point it might be the only way to save her ass.

No Casey. Her not taking stands leaves many options down the road to over turn verdict.

Tom_PM · 06-30-2011, 12:02 PM

The judge is making it tough on the defense regarding the upcoming rebuttal witnesses for the prosecution. The prosecution failed to get work records for Cindy Anthony to place her at work on the date she told them she was home searching for chloroform on google. Now they need to get those records because the defense simply asked her about it and she repeated what the state knew 2 yrs ago. It's kind of unfair to now allow the state to bring these records when they SHOULD have known it would be brought up at trial. It's a discovery violation but the judge said it's not. The defense has a matter of hours now to look over some 200 pages of work records and round up witnesses they may feel they need to place her at home rather than work on that date.

You could say that maybe the judge really believes that the state could not have anticipated the need for the records, therefore there's no violation. But that would also mean you think the prosecution is so incompetent that they didnt forsee the need to bring records on information crucial to what they said was a murder weapon! Appeal is absolutely certain I'd say at this time and on that point plus others.

Been busy here but I managed to catch that part while having lunch.

ShellyCrash · 06-30-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

The prosecution failed to get work records for Cindy Anthony to place her at work on the date she told them she was home searching for chloroform on google. Now they need to get those records because the defense simply asked her about it and she repeated what the state knew 2 yrs ago. It's kind of unfair to now allow the state to bring these records when they SHOULD have known it would be brought up at trial.

I'm going to disagree with you there. If you remember, in her original deposition years ago she said she only searched for chlorophyll, not chloroform, and she also said she searched for it sometime in march. Her testimony in court changed. On the stand she asserted that not only did she additionally search for chloroform she also asserted that she was at home on the date the prosecution presented those searches were done, and said that she and casey took turns sitting at the computer to explain why these searches were in conjunction with casey's myspace activity.

This was all new testimony. The new additions were pointed out by the prosecution on cross, to which Mrs. Anthony attributed her clearer memory to things such as changes in her medication. She also affirmed that she was positive she was home on that day during those hours even though her timecard would reflect otherwise and stated that if she could have access to her work logs she could prove it, but she was certain that by now those logs no longer existed.

That was I think last thursday, the following day the prosecution tipped their hand to the defense and let them know they had contacted Gentiva to get the records pulled. They also gave them advance warning last week that they are going to present computer logs from the anthony home that are going to tear apart their timeline of events for June 16th.

I think they've been pretty straight up in terms of discovery. Especially in comparison to the defense who might be facing bar issues or contempt of court due to their willful witholding and failure to comply with discovery orders.

Just my

bean-aid · 06-30-2011, 12:37 PM

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I'm going to disagree with you there. If you remember, in her original deposition years ago she said she only searched for chlorophyll, not chloroform,

She was asked if she searched for Chloroform and her answer was "I may have" originally.

What I don't understand is why isn't defense calling computer witnesses about how easy it is for time stamps on a computer to be wrong. Happens all the time. Also autofill google results... obviously now if you type in "chlo" into google top result is chloroform because it's trending but really...

Pool... chlorine... etc. I'm almost thinking her attorneys are trying to lose on incompetence so guilty verdict can just be overturned.

ShellyCrash · 06-30-2011, 12:55 PM

Dude, that kid just got 6 days in jail and $600 plus fine for flipping the bird. I didn't even catch it. I listen much more than I watch (or I'd get no work done). Did anyone see him do it?

PornoMonster · 06-30-2011, 12:57 PM

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I'm going to disagree with you there. If you remember, in her original deposition years ago she said she only searched for chlorophyll, not chloroform, and she also said she searched for it sometime in march. Her testimony in court changed. On the stand she asserted that not only did she additionally search for chloroform she also asserted that she was at home on the date the prosecution presented those searches were done, and said that she and casey took turns sitting at the computer to explain why these searches were in conjunction with casey's myspace activity.

This was all new testimony. The new additions were pointed out by the prosecution on cross, to which Mrs. Anthony attributed her clearer memory to things such as changes in her medication. She also affirmed that she was positive she was home on that day during those hours even though her timecard would reflect otherwise and stated that if she could have access to her work logs she could prove it, but she was certain that by now those logs no longer existed.

That was I think last thursday, the following day the prosecution tipped their hand to the defense and let them know they had contacted Gentiva to get the records pulled. They also gave them advance warning last week that they are going to present computer logs from the anthony home that are going to tear apart their timeline of events for June 16th.

I think they've been pretty straight up in terms of discovery. Especially in comparison to the defense who might be facing bar issues or contempt of court due to their willful witholding and failure to comply with discovery orders.

Just my

Exactly.
Prosecution, was taken by this. They believed she was at work. Now the mom says I can put in any hours I want.
Listen the mom didn't decide to go home in the middle of the day to seach for chlorophyll because her dogs were getting tired.
and the search was looked up over 80 times.
People want the TRUTH, what does the defense have to hide to see if the mom is lying or not??????

Also that mistress, she is scorned, as many are. I am sure the dad told this lady he wants to be with her to get in her pants. She sees a chance to be famous and make money on this. Besides we all know that what is said and heard and told to another person changes all the time.
She said he said it was an accident that snowballed out of controll. Dad said IT COULD OF BEEN, an accident that snowballed out of controll.

Honestly I am sticking to, she accidently killed her child, with druging her, while she partied.

Tom_PM · 06-30-2011, 12:59 PM

Yeah she said she might have. Thats why I think you would almost have to think the states attorneys are incompetent if they didnt have a reasonable expectation that the topic would be raised, and I think that's the basis for the discovery violation allegation.

I know that to me it was all news that she had said she searched for anything at any time. They sure didnt let it slip to any media that Cindy did any searches did they? I dont follow tabloid stuff so maybe it's well known out there. I also didnt know the father had tried to kill himself.

justinsain · 06-30-2011, 01:01 PM

Some 28 year old guy in the spectator seats gave the Prosecuting Attorney the middle finger while the court was in session.

After the jury was excused, the Judge marched the guy up to the front, charged him with direct contempt and sentenced him to serve six days in jail, $400 fine and $220 in court costs.

Before sentencing he made the guy tell how much money he had ( $120 checking $12 savings), where he worked ( server at Fridays ) and a lot of other personal information that played out live on a world stage.

justinsain · 06-30-2011, 01:07 PM

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Dude, that kid just got 6 days in jail and $600 plus fine for flipping the bird. I didn't even catch it. I listen much more than I watch (or I'd get no work done). Did anyone see him do it?

They said Orlando Sentinel photographer, Red Huber took a picture of the guy flipping the bird, they made a print and used it right there as evidence and the guy identified himself. The jury was in the courtroom. The Judge didn't say if he actually saw it happen.

It was also reported that the guy has been several times and is usually one of the first in line to get a ticket inside.

ShellyCrash · 06-30-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

They said Orlando Sentinel photographer, Red Huber took a picture of the guy flipping the bird, they made a print and used it right there as evidence and the guy identified himself. The jury was in the courtroom. The Judge didn't say if he actually saw it happen.

It was also reported that the guy has been several times and is usually one of the first in line to get a ticket inside.

People are so weird. I'm glad it didn't throw the trial, but I did appreciate the levity.

I'd love to see that pic

marlboroack · 06-30-2011, 05:18 PM

I'd leave it alone, accidents happen. I'm sure they feel fucking horrible.

CDSmith · 06-30-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Watching more than 2 minutes of that sucks the soul from my body. I feel sorry for the jurors.

Watching it for any length of time is sheer torture. I come to this thread for updates and sensible perspective. :D

bean-aid · 06-30-2011, 08:01 PM

I'm surprised nobody on this forum commented on my comment...

Time stamps on a computer can easily be off... Google has a tendency to autofill the words...

We are all webmasters and we all know the game of computers. Ie... You get a virus your time stamp can easily get changed.

Do you agree with this?

CDSmith · 06-30-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

I'm surprised nobody on this forum commented on my comment...

Time stamps on a computer can easily be off... Google has a tendency to autofill the words...

We are all webmasters and we all know the game of computers. Ie... You get a virus your time stamp can easily get changed.

Do you agree with this?

I read your initial comment on it, and agreed with it for the most part. But again I must say, the focus of this trial should be on answering the question: DID SHE DO IT? Anything else to me is just fluff and the defense trying everything they can to convolute the trial and dodge the real issue and confuse the public and the jury, period.

ShellyCrash · 06-30-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

I'm surprised nobody on this forum commented on my comment...

Time stamps on a computer can easily be off... Google has a tendency to autofill the words...

We are all webmasters and we all know the game of computers. Ie... You get a virus your time stamp can easily get changed.

Do you agree with this?

I think I devoted a whole thread to how clueless the computer "experts" in this case seem to be. The first few days of testimony no one was even taking browser tabs into account.

Ultimately the history speaks for itself as far as the chloroform searches. Take the time stamps out of the equation, even put the mother in the house- the myspace and search activity is simultaneous. Casey and Cindy would have to be swapping seats in intervals as small as 20 seconds in succession. Sure, it's possible, but it's not practical. Especially when you consider keystroke time. It's crazy pills to try and reason it was anyone other than casey performing those searches.

But back to the time stamping, early on they spoke of comparing the system time to real gmt. They actually ran the forensics on the home desktop using two different types of software and even brought in and consulted the maker of one of the programs to figure out how far off the time stamps are, etc. They aren't just looking at the time stamp and taking it as gospel.

They also went into detail about the camera one of her exes used to take pics of caylee, how far off the time on the camera was to actual time, etc. And they did mention that with the camera, unlike the computer, someone could alter the time and date settings since the digital images in question were taken so they would not be able to put a certain time and date, only an estimate.

bean-aid · 06-30-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I think I devoted a whole thread to how clueless the computer "experts" in this case seem to be. The first few days of testimony no one was even taking browser tabs into account.

Ultimately the history speaks for itself as far as the chloroform searches. Take the time stamps out of the equation, even put the mother in the house- the myspace and search activity is simultaneous. Casey and Cindy would have to be swapping seats in intervals as small as 20 seconds in succession. Sure, it's possible, but it's not practical. Especially when you consider keystroke time. It's crazy pills to try and reason it was anyone other than casey performing those searches.

But back to the time stamping, early on they spoke of comparing the system time to real gmt. They actually ran the forensics on the home desktop using two different types of software and even brought in and consulted the maker of one of the programs to figure out how far off the time stamps are, etc. They aren't just looking at the time stamp and taking it as gospel.

They also went into detail about the camera one of her exes used to take pics of caylee, how far off the time on the camera was to actual time, etc. And they did mention that with the camera, unlike the computer, someone could alter the time and date settings since the digital images in question were taken so they would not be able to put a certain time and date, only an estimate.

Shelly,

I like you and always have

Nothing that indicates this girl did first degree murder makes sense. Everybody thinks she did it... I do as well... I think she lost the ability to tell authorities "what really happened" because she already tried to hide the body.

But, I can tell you for certain as a professional in common sense,

That women did not wrap duct tape around her daughters head and suffocated her so she died.

06-28-2011, 01:28 PM	#58
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06-28-2011, 09:17 PM	#67
ShellyCrash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,708	Here's something interesting for you trial watchers. A friend of mine in O-town sent this to me. This is from local news on Saturday, before it was out of the bag her defense team was ordering a psych evaluation. Very interesting flash of Casey's true colors: http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28362472/index.html Does it prove anything, no. Interesting, yes. __________________ Start making money with the hottest hookup site! up to $55 PPS or up to 75% Revshare ICQ 196766477

06-28-2011, 09:52 PM	#69
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06-29-2011, 01:34 PM	#72
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06-29-2011, 02:19 PM	#74
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	We know now that Kronk was sure it was a skeleton in November and he finally got sick of the cops not doing anything in December. He lifted the bag and the skull and that ruins the prosecutions idea that duct tape was a murder weapon. It DOES answer how the brain matter was in the left side of the skull even though the skull was "found" by police in an upright position: Kronk put it that way. I totally disagree with all the tv commentators who seem to think the dad made a great witness today. I think he has made a terrible, awful witness every time he's on there. He 100% smells human decomposition but never calls the police? And he's a detective? There were so many maggots eating the garbage and pizza that it SOUNDED LIKE FRYING HAMBURGER???? How SICK is that!? I've never heard that sound before or smelled garbage that bad! But he's 100% sure it was human decomposition in the car once owned by his son, and now by his daughter and does nothign but bring it home and try to clean it? He tries to kill himself by telling everyone he's ever known that he's going to do it, then not doing it for so long that the cops come and "stop" him from it? Then flies right to a tv interview then doesnt know who is paying for his ritz carleton hotel stay for 3 days? Really? He's a former detective and doesnt know shit about this stuff and yet wants to kill himself and fails? Yet the tv talking heads simply feel he's a credible, grieving grandpa. Sure thing. Nothing weird about it at all. Everyone acts like that. Look, I think she did it and/or was responsible for it anyway. But for fuck sakes, the only one in this family I believe so far is the son who seems determined to just say what he really said and say what he really did and let the chips fall where they may. The mom and especially the dad seem to be trying SO HARD to only say what will help the prosecution that it's suspect. To me. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-28-2011, 10:17 AM	#52
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,275	She's a cruel monster. Hope she burns

06-28-2011, 10:42 AM	#53
ManuteBol Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 640	Krunky Krunk is on the hot seat now.

06-28-2011, 11:03 AM	#54
ManuteBol Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 640	Interesting, Krunk got a bunch of money and free attorney's fee's. He also bragged about what was in the bag, before it had been opened.

06-28-2011, 11:07 AM	#55
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,460	The entire family and the people around them are trash.

06-28-2011, 11:43 AM	#56
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	just my opinion. but the cover up was so completely awful, its impossible for me to believe it was a pre-meditated death. If daddy was involved, or if casey was less retarded, they could have easily gotten away with this. my guess is murder 2.

06-29-2011, 01:28 AM	#70
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06-29-2011, 11:49 AM	#71
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Anybody watching the trial today? Kronks son pretty convincing that his dad knew full well about kaylees remains well before december. Usually the obvious makes sense. The point is the remains had been tampered with much more the eluded to by prosecution and kronk. The problem with this trial nobody wants the truth. Prosecution wants a murder 1 charge and dismisses evidence that speaks otherwise.

06-29-2011, 01:43 PM	#73
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i think she gave the kid some drugs, maybe chloroform, so she could go out and party.. the kid died.. she deserves a death sentence... .

06-29-2011, 02:57 PM	#77
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Is it just me or does this Krunk guy have a case against the defence attorney (Baez?) for slander. I mean the attorney basically trashes Krunk in open televised court during his opening statement the other day, saying the guy is a money-grubbing this and he hid the remains that, basically saying he's a scumbag. Then when he gets Krunk on the stand he doesn't ask him one thing about any of that stuff he said about him. In the US it seems anyone can sue anyone for anything. If I were Krunk I would definitely consider suing that dumbass Baez guy for slander. Sorry to any lawyer types here but if you're going to trash someone in that manner in open court in front of millions of viewers you better have the evidence to back up your accusations or else. Btw, Baez's questions annoy the hell out of me. State of mind crap, did Casey's father or brother molest her etc etc... To me NONE of that shit matters. The only thing that matters in this case that a little girl is dead, and is there negligence or murder involved on the part of the mother. That's it. If they focused on that the case would be over in a few weeks tops. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

06-29-2011, 07:39 PM	#83
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	Watching more than 2 minutes of that sucks the soul from my body. I feel sorry for the jurors. __________________

06-29-2011, 09:52 PM	#84
justinsain Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,374	The defense said it will rest its case today in court. It won't surprise me if they put Casey on the stand as their final attempt to sway the jury. She was able to stand up yesterday morning and speak on her behalf on another matter. I found it interesting it went down that way and wondered if it was done purposely by her defense to see how she would handle that. At this point I think she's lost the the trial. It is her choice as to whether she testifies or not and at this point it might be the only way to save her ass.

06-30-2011, 12:02 PM	#86
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	The judge is making it tough on the defense regarding the upcoming rebuttal witnesses for the prosecution. The prosecution failed to get work records for Cindy Anthony to place her at work on the date she told them she was home searching for chloroform on google. Now they need to get those records because the defense simply asked her about it and she repeated what the state knew 2 yrs ago. It's kind of unfair to now allow the state to bring these records when they SHOULD have known it would be brought up at trial. It's a discovery violation but the judge said it's not. The defense has a matter of hours now to look over some 200 pages of work records and round up witnesses they may feel they need to place her at home rather than work on that date. You could say that maybe the judge really believes that the state could not have anticipated the need for the records, therefore there's no violation. But that would also mean you think the prosecution is so incompetent that they didnt forsee the need to bring records on information crucial to what they said was a murder weapon! Appeal is absolutely certain I'd say at this time and on that point plus others. Been busy here but I managed to catch that part while having lunch. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-30-2011, 12:55 PM	#89
ShellyCrash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,708	Dude, that kid just got 6 days in jail and $600 plus fine for flipping the bird. I didn't even catch it. I listen much more than I watch (or I'd get no work done). Did anyone see him do it? __________________ Start making money with the hottest hookup site! up to $55 PPS or up to 75% Revshare ICQ 196766477

06-30-2011, 12:59 PM	#91
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Yeah she said she might have. Thats why I think you would almost have to think the states attorneys are incompetent if they didnt have a reasonable expectation that the topic would be raised, and I think that's the basis for the discovery violation allegation. I know that to me it was all news that she had said she searched for anything at any time. They sure didnt let it slip to any media that Cindy did any searches did they? I dont follow tabloid stuff so maybe it's well known out there. I also didnt know the father had tried to kill himself. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

06-30-2011, 01:01 PM	#92
justinsain Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,374	Some 28 year old guy in the spectator seats gave the Prosecuting Attorney the middle finger while the court was in session. After the jury was excused, the Judge marched the guy up to the front, charged him with direct contempt and sentenced him to serve six days in jail, $400 fine and $220 in court costs. Before sentencing he made the guy tell how much money he had ( $120 checking $12 savings), where he worked ( server at Fridays ) and a lot of other personal information that played out live on a world stage.

06-30-2011, 05:18 PM	#95
marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	I'd leave it alone, accidents happen. I'm sure they feel fucking horrible.

06-30-2011, 08:01 PM	#97
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	I'm surprised nobody on this forum commented on my comment... Time stamps on a computer can easily be off... Google has a tendency to autofill the words... We are all webmasters and we all know the game of computers. Ie... You get a virus your time stamp can easily get changed. Do you agree with this?