I'm SO not a conspiracy nut, but the IMF thing stinks to high heaven!!

[sperbonzo]

Ok, so this is what seems to be happening, looking at the order of events with some inductive reasoning:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is suddenly arrested on the testimony of a hotel maid. (perhaps totally made up charge?)

The state department comes to Kahn in jail, tells him that they want him to resign, or they will make these charges stick. They want to put their own person in his place as head of the IMF.

He goes ahead and agrees, knowing that they could ruin his life, and resigns right away. (I had thought this was a weird move for a man who is proclaiming his innocence)

They announce the new head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, (who started out as part of the same Chicago legal/political machine as the present US administration), on the 29th.

The 2 days later, with the deal now completed, the charges are suddenly being dropped because of the "credibility" of the maid's testimony, and Kahn is released.

Kahn walks away with his life intact, and the trumpted up charges dropped, and the US government gets who they want as head of the IMF





Thoughts on this anyone?



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[Harmon]

[vsex]

Originally Posted by Harmon

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Harmon

That's funny, but not a very coherent thought regarding my post.




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[Quentin]

The whole conspiracy would hinge on him having sex with a hotel maid; even if the conspirators involved could assure that he'd be provided with the opportunity to have consensual sex with her (in order to establish evidence that could be used to sustain the false rape charge) how could they count on him taking that opportunity?

I know it is well-established that he is something of a sex hound, and that a number of women have come forward since the rape allegations were made public with stories of him making unwanted advances and all that... but structuring a conspiracy to remove him as the head of the IMF that entirely relies on him having sex with a chambermaid seems unnecessarily complicated and iffy to me. I suspect there are easier, more dependable ways to be rid of an IMF director, through both legal and illicit means. ;-)

To me, this was most likely either (a) a sexual assault as alleged, but alleged by a person with little credibility (it is quite possible to be a liar and an actual victim as well, after all) or (b) rape charges trumped up by an opportunist who realized, either before or after the coital fact, that she was fucking someone rich/famous/powerful. In that scenario, she may have thought "If I can get criminal charges to stick against him, then I can sue him personally, the hotel, the IMF...." etc.

The conspiracy explanation is certainly possible, I just think it is less likely than good ol' greed as a motive behind a false allegation, and less likely than the possibility that this guy is guilty, and just happened to rape someone whose credibility is questionable.

[Theo]

It was a set up. I feel bad for the guy.

[michael.kickass]

I am a conspiracy nut soo...

[CaptainHowdy]

I don't care about the fate of those in charge ...

[L-Pink]

But fucking a hotel maid? Really the head of the IMF fucking a maid? That kind of Days Inn behavior got him in this mess.

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[iSpyCams]

Its not a conspiracy, it's a straight up power play. Each administration in both parties in living memory has so far pushed the envelope of scumbaggery a little further than the last.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Quentin

The whole conspiracy would hinge on him having sex with a hotel maid; even if the conspirators involved could assure that he'd be provided with the opportunity to have consensual sex with her (in order to establish evidence that could be used to sustain the false rape charge) how could they count on him taking that opportunity?

I know it is well-established that he is something of a sex hound, and that a number of women have come forward since the rape allegations were made public with stories of him making unwanted advances and all that... but structuring a conspiracy to remove him as the head of the IMF that entirely relies on him having sex with a chambermaid seems unnecessarily complicated and iffy to me. I suspect there are easier, more dependable ways to be rid of an IMF director, through both legal and illicit means. ;-)

To me, this was most likely either (a) an sexual assault as alleged, but alleged by a person with little credibility (it is quite possible to be a liar and an actual victim as well, after all) or (b) rape charges trumped up by an opportunist who realized, either before or after the coital fact, that she was fucking someone rich/famous/powerful. In that scenario, she may have thought "If I can get criminal charges to stick against him, then I can sue him personally, the hotel, the IMF...." etc.

The conspiracy explanation is certainly possible, I just think it is less likely than good ol' greed as a motive behind a false allegation, and less likely than the possibility that this guy is guilty, and just happened to rape someone whose credibility is questionable.

I'm not sure that any sexual event of ANY kind occurred. There does not seem to be any evidence of that at all. Anyone knowing his history as a hound, would see that this charge would be a believable one for the media.

The ONLY reason why the conspiracy theory even came to my mind was when I started looking at the order and timing of events up to today, the strangeness of his sudden resignation, and the backgrounds of the players involved regarding the new head of the IMF.



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[kbauerctu]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Ok, so this is what seems to be happening, looking at the order of events with some inductive reasoning:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is suddenly arrested on the testimony of a hotel maid. (perhaps totally made up charge?)

The state department comes to Kahn in jail, tells him that they want him to resign, or they will make these charges stick. They want to put their own person in his place as head of the IMF.

He goes ahead and agrees, knowing that they could ruin his life, and resigns right away. (I had thought this was a weird move for a man who is proclaiming his innocence)

They announce the new head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, (who started out as part of the same Chicago legal/political machine as the present US administration), on the 29th.

The 2 days later, with the deal now completed, the charges are suddenly being dropped because of the "credibility" of the maid's testimony, and Kahn is released.

Kahn walks away with his life intact, and the trumpted up charges dropped, and the US government gets who they want as head of the IMF





Thoughts on this anyone?



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I think it stinks just as you do, but we can't know anything for sure; considering both you and I are average citizens with an incomplete set of information.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The state department comes to Kahn in jail, tells him that they want him to resign, or they will make these charges stick.

He did in fact resign, and the charges did in fact stick. So that pretty much kills your conspiracy theory right there.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He did in fact resign, and the charges did in fact stick. So that pretty much kills your conspiracy theory right there.

he's out with no bail

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I'm not sure that any sexual event of ANY kind occurred. There does not seem to be any evidence of that at all. Anyone knowing his history as a hound, would see that this charge would be a believable one for the media.

The ONLY reason why the conspiracy theory even came to my mind was when I started looking at the order and timing of events up to today, the strangeness of his sudden resignation, and the backgrounds of the players involved regarding the new head of the IMF.



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So, are you saying that the prosecutors are just lying in their claim that there's forensic evidence corroborating the fact that sex took place between the accuser and the accused?

Beyond that, his lawyer (Benjamin Brafman) said, at a press conference held earlier this month: "When the evidence is in, it will be clear there was no forcible compulsion."

If no sex took place at all, why say "there was no forcible compulsion?" Wouldn't he just say the whole story was false?

No offense, but I think you might be a fact or two short on the developing narrative here, from either/both sides of the courtroom.

[Joshua G]

i am skeptical the feds engineered this to get a crony in the IMF. For what purpose?

The US has no pull on who gets to be IMF chief. There is a gentlemens agreement in place whereby the world bank chief is an american while the IMF chief is a euro.

I think this has to do with the greek debt situation. Someone shorting Greece set him up. Given the way financial & commodities markets are manipulated by gigantic pools of private capital, this is my best guess.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He did in fact resign, and the charges did in fact stick. So that pretty much kills your conspiracy theory right there.

Actually, No.

NEW YORK ? Former International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn was released on his own recognizance Friday after the high-profile sexual assault case against him faltered.

By David Karp, AP
Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss- Kahn leaves New York State Supreme court with his wife Anne Sinclair Friday.
Strauss-Kahn, 62, had been under 24-hour home confinement for several weeks after a housekeeper at the Manhattan hotel he was staying at accused him of attempted rape in his $3,000-a-night luxury suite.
A Manhattan Supreme Court justice lifted Strauss-Kahn's restrictive bail conditions after the Manhattan district attorney's office conceded there were "substantial credibility issues" with the maid's story and background.
The charges against Strauss-Kahn will remain in place while investigation of the case continues. Forensic evidence supports the maid's claim, Assistant District Attorney Joan Illuzzi-Orbon said.
The Manhattan district attorney's office discovered that the 32-year-old housekeeper, a native of Guinea, was linked to crimes such as drug dealing and money laundering and that she may have provided false information while seeking U.S. asylum.
Once considered a front-runner for the French presidency, Strauss-Kahn resigned from the IMF in May after the housekeeper's accusations.
"We are absolutely convinced that while today is the first giant step in the right direction, the next step will lead to the complete dismissal of the charges," said Benjamin Brafman, Strauss-Kahn's attorney.


It just seems funny that it happened two days after they nominate a new head of the IMF that started in the Chicago machine....



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[Emil]

http://conspiracyhub.com/

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Quentin

So, are you saying that the prosecutors are just lying in their claim that there's forensic evidence corroborating the fact that sex took place between the accuser and the accused?

Beyond that, his lawyer (Benjamin Brafman) said, at a press conference held earlier this month: "When the evidence is in, it will be clear there was no forcible compulsion."

If no sex took place at all, why say "there was no forcible compulsion?" Wouldn't he just say the whole story was false?

No offense, but I think you might be a fact or two short on the developing narrative here, from either/both sides of the courtroom.

I know what you're saying, but remember that if his defense lawyer is being told that there is evidence, then he has to act based on what he is being told by the D.A.s office. If they are telling Kahn to co-operate, or he is going down, then he would not be able to start yelling that this is a conspiracy against him, would he....

Again, I'm NOT a conspiracy nut, most of them are total crap, but the US government is capable of quite a bit, and it seems like they are getting more and more bold as time goes on.


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[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

The US has no pull on who gets to be IMF chief. There is a gentlemens agreement in place whereby the world bank chief is an american while the IMF chief is a euro.
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Another reason why this seems funny, since the new head started her career in Chicago. As for why the US would want to hold power of the IMF, there are WAY too many reasons to count here....






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[L-Pink]

On the subject of sex scandals what ever happened to the wikileaks guy?

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[VikingMan]

The public can be made to believe whatever the opinion makers want them to believe. Now that the majority of the population are fat, lazy, and dumbed down there really is no "sport" in the pursuit anymore.

And I think it is way past due for reasonable people to stand up and not let these women who make false rape claims to just get off so easily. They should be prosecuted and imprisoned because what they are dong to innocent men is just as evil as rape itself.

[PornGreen]

you have cracked the case. now they must destroy you.

[Captain Kawaii]

Sperbonzo

I haven't researched LeGarde but if what you say is true then you are probably correct on your assumptions.

Asian Media was reporting before Kahn's trip to NY that he feared he was going to be blackmailed or set up in some way. Possibly he was already receiving threats that were kept out of US news.

By Chicago you are referring to Lew Wasserman's legacy I presume?

I got an earful once by a former DOJ attorney whose partner was whacked after they investigated MCA/Universal a little too much. After they received an order from Bush Sr/s admin to stop investigating his partner went dead in a hotel room in the Mojave...He was following leads regarding meth production on Indian reservations out there and their connection to Chicago.

The FEDS as one likes to call them are nothing more than henchmen for some higher group. Both parties are slaves to this group, whoever it is.

Rohm Emmanuel's unethical ascension t the mayorship recently is another indicator.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Sperbonzo

I haven't researched LeGarde but if what you say is true then you are probably correct on your assumptions.

Asian Media was reporting before Kahn's trip to NY that he feared he was going to be blackmailed or set up in some way. Possibly he was already receiving threats that were kept out of US news.

By Chicago you are referring to Lew Wasserman's legacy I presume?

I got an earful once by a former DOJ attorney whose partner was whacked after they investigated MCA/Universal a little too much. After they received an order from Bush Sr/s admin to stop investigating his partner went dead in a hotel room in the Mojave...He was following leads regarding meth production on Indian reservations out there and their connection to Chicago.

The FEDS as one likes to call them are nothing more than henchmen for some higher group. Both parties are slaves to this group, whoever it is.

Rohm Emmanuel's unethical ascension t the mayorship recently is another indicator.

Don't always believe what you hear from powerful people.

I know a guy that was CEO of one of the largest insurance companies in the WORLD who honest to god believes in UFO's and think his daughter (my friend; how I know him) was abducted and probed because of a dream she had one night.

Anything could have happened to that partner; accidental death, robbery, suicide, OD or what you said.

Not saying it's not true, just saying don't always believe what people tell you. Even well placed people can be nuts.

[Bill8]

he's a rich guy with rich friends - there's a different law for the rich.

no conspiracy required - he made a deal, favors changed hands, they paid off her family, he goes home.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by Harmon

[officemike]

I like how Jon Stewart referred to this whole fiasco as "A live action metaphor for what the IMF does to developing countries."

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by *******

And I think it is way past due for reasonable people to stand up and not let these women who make false rape claims to just get off so easily. They should be prosecuted and imprisoned because what they are dong to innocent men is just as evil as rape itself.

"He hit me, he raped me, he touched my kid" ... Every one of these 3 word sentences can change a man's life forever. With no repercussions for the woman.

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[Brujah]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Thoughts on this anyone?

If this were true, Glenn Beck would have told us.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by Bill8

he's a rich guy with rich friends - there's a different law for the rich.

no conspiracy required - he made a deal, favors changed hands, they paid off her family, he goes home.

Believable and credible, although we were all shocked that someone so rich and powerful was arrested. Hotel detectives didn't stop it in its tracks, French Ambassador or IMF...

Must have fucked someone off big time....

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Ok, so this is what seems to be happening, looking at the order of events with some inductive reasoning:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is suddenly arrested on the testimony of a hotel maid. (perhaps totally made up charge?)

The state department comes to Kahn in jail, tells him that they want him to resign, or they will make these charges stick. They want to put their own person in his place as head of the IMF.

He goes ahead and agrees, knowing that they could ruin his life, and resigns right away. (I had thought this was a weird move for a man who is proclaiming his innocence)

They announce the new head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, (who started out as part of the same Chicago legal/political machine as the present US administration), on the 29th.

The 2 days later, with the deal now completed, the charges are suddenly being dropped because of the "credibility" of the maid's testimony, and Kahn is released.

Kahn walks away with his life intact, and the trumpted up charges dropped, and the US government gets who they want as head of the IMF





Thoughts on this anyone?



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Stinks like the Julian Assange thing, the Bradley Manning thing, and the Washington Madam who said "if you find me hanging dead in my cell it's not because I'm suicidal" - and then they found her hanging in her cell a week later...

:D

[MediaGuy]

The more I think about it... does anyone really think what we see on the news is what actually goes down?

Probably most if not all of this high-powered back-and-forth is just the surface spin of much deeper tides no one is really privy to...

I mean, just remember that young nurse who testified that Sadam Hussein's soldiers were pulling babies from incubators and letting them die on the floor in Kuwait, in a congressional testimony...

Pure fiction as we later discovered, so later and so below the media radar that no one cared...

Or more recently, check this clip: http://tonightsforecastdark.blogspot...rnors-and.html

I mean... It's nuts. Do you really think Gary Hart was just a philanderer, or Larry Craig an airport gay gloryhole junkie?

It's all set up and cross-partisan media war setups.

Score one for me, score one for you...

Bullshit.

:D

[Barry-xlovecam]

Strange series of events indeed ...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

does anyone really think what we see on the news is what actually goes down?

"Manufacturing consent"...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

"Manufacturing consent"...