Anyone else watching the Casey Anthony trial?

[Choker]

I think the baby accidently drowned and Casey and her Father covered it up. I haven't seen what I consider any hard evidence that she murdered the kid. It all seems circumstantial

[candyflip]

We aren't be bombarded by the coverage, as I'm sure you are...being in Florida and all.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Choker

I think the baby accidently drowned and Casey and her Father covered it up. I haven't seen what I consider any hard evidence that she murdered the kid. It all seems circumstantial

Why would her ex cop father want to hide the fact the baby accidentally drowned?

Why would they hide the body in the trunk of the car for a few days?

No Matter what really happened, just the fact that the Casey Anthony has been so deceptive as to the demise of her daughter and the extensive man hours and money it has cost, I believe she should get 30 years in jail to think about what she's done

[TubeKing]

i'd hit it, I think she's hot as fuck.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by justinsain

Why would her ex cop father want to hide the fact the baby accidentally drowned?

Why would they hide the body in the trunk of the car for a few days?

No Matter what really happened, just the fact that the Casey Anthony has been so deceptive as to the demise of her daughter and the extensive man hours and money it has cost, I believe she should get 30 years in jail to think about what she's done

If your kid accidently drowned it is very likely you would get charged with child neglect and a few more charges. In my opinion the state has not shown evidence the body was ever in the trunk. She lived with her Father and the child drowned in the Fathers pool, likely he would be charged also. What if he was the only person home when she drowned?

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Choker

If your kid accidently drowned it is very likely you would get charged with child neglect and a few more charges. In my opinion the state has not shown evidence the body was ever in the trunk. She lived with her Father and the child drowned in the Fathers pool, likely he would be charged also. What if he was the only person home when she drowned?

I live just a few miles from the Anthony home. Sadly here in central FL several children accidentally drown every year. Just a few weeks ago a family from Tenn was visiting friends here and their child drown in the hosts pool. Tourist come to Disney and their children drown in the hotel pools. Its such a preventable death and yet it happens over and over.

I can't remember a time when it was reported that charges were filed or when the family tried to hide the fact the child accidentally drowned. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened. It just rarely happens.

I don't know what the exact laws are regarding pools but there are ones like they must be surrounded by a certain height fence with a locked gate. If a homeowner has complied with all the rules and the child has still managed to drown its unlikely neglect charges would be filed which is what happens the overwhelming majority of the time.

As for the body in the trunk the state provided....

The hair sample with the band which comes from a decomposing body.

I believe it was stated there were the flies associated with a decomposing body.

It was stated by several people that smelled the trunk and had previously smelled human decomposition that it was the same smell which is unique and unforgettable.

Then there is the air samples that were tested. Even though they were controversial they were admitted and allowed as evidence. Those samples say that a decomposing body was in the trunk.

Now if the defense wants to say that the child accidentally drowned they need to show how the body made it to the woods. They are going to try and pin something on the meter reader. I'd like to know every step after the child's body was removed from the pool and it needs to be a better explanation with evidence than what the prosecutors have provided with the trunk.

[ManuteBol]

Yes, I listen to the Live Stream while working.

Looking forward to Casey's testimony.

Originally Posted by Choker

I think the baby accidently drowned and Casey and her Father covered it up. I haven't seen what I consider any hard evidence that she murdered the kid. It all seems circumstantial

The Prosecutor has a chip on his shoulder (clearly) and Beaz is playing his cards right, his opening statement was pretty riveting.

Also, George trying to commit suicide earlier, (could be) a huge red flag, that he had something to do with this. He was an ex cop, just doesn't all make sense.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by justinsain

As for the body in the trunk the state provided....

The hair sample with the band which comes from a decomposing body.

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I thought they found a single hair? And wouldn't a hair that is not attatched to a body decompose on it's own? There does indeed seem to be a lot of circumstantial evidence that the body was in the trunk, but what about hard evidence that she killed the child?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Choker

I think the baby accidently drowned and Casey and her Father covered it up. I haven't seen what I consider any hard evidence that she murdered the kid. It all seems circumstantial

That makes no sense at all. Why would her father - a former police officer - cover up an accident?

This woman killed her kid, and then acted like nothing was wrong. She is so guilty it's not funny.

[ManuteBol]

Orlando's newest tourist attraction is the Casey Anthony trial.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by ManuteBol

Yes, I listen to the Live Stream while working.

Looking forward to Casey's testimony.



The Prosecutor has a chip on his shoulder (clearly) and Beaz is playing his cards right, his opening statement was pretty riveting.

Also, George trying to commit suicide earlier, (could be) a huge red flag, that he had something to do with this. He was an ex cop, just doesn't all make sense.

I doubt Casey will testify. Unless they have a bombshell it would be best for her not to take the stand. Prosecuter would tear her apart.

[ManuteBol]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would her father - a former police officer - cover up an accident?

lol, are ya serious.

Originally Posted by Rochard

She is so guilty it's not funny.

Agreed, it has to be proven though, beyond a reasonable doubt.

[ManuteBol]

Originally Posted by Choker

I doubt Casey will testify. Unless they have a bombshell it would be best for her not to take the stand. Prosecuter would tear her apart.

So far, I don't think they'd tear her apart.

If she sticks to her story, (although another lie) who knows what the jury will think.

There are a few jury members who, the prosecutor did not want on, you never know with a jury.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That makes no sense at all. Why would her father - a former police officer - cover up an accident?

This woman killed her kid, and then acted like nothing was wrong. She is so guilty it's not funny.

If her accusation that her father molested her for years is true, her acting like nothing happened after the baby drowned would be consistent of someone deeply disturbed and accustomed to acting like very bad things didn't happen. This would be her way of coping. Hey I'm not defending the bitch. just stating what I think happened.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by ManuteBol

So far, I don't think they'd tear her apart.

If she sticks to her story, (although another lie) who knows what the jury will think.

There are a few jury members who, the prosecutor did not want on, you never know with a jury.

She won't take the stand man, no fucking way.

[ManuteBol]

Originally Posted by Choker

If her accusation that her father molested her for years is true, her acting like nothing happened after the baby drowned would be consistent of someone deeply disturbed and accustomed to acting like very bad things didn't happen. This would be her way of coping.

good point, and her knowing that shit is going to hit the fan soon (when her Mom finds out), she said 'F^&* It!' and stole some money, partied and made up the Zenaida story as time went on.

Sad, Caylee was a sweet little girl, looked just like her Grandma. rip

[Chosen]

I don't.

[Horny Dude]

I've only seen a little of it, but I think she totally killed her daughter. If she drowned accidentally then whats with the tape on the mouth of the baby. Also you would be destroyed personally, she was out partying and having a good time. Fry that girl on the chair.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Choker

If her accusation that her father molested her for years is true, her acting like nothing happened after the baby drowned would be consistent of someone deeply disturbed and accustomed to acting like very bad things didn't happen. This would be her way of coping. Hey I'm not defending the bitch. just stating what I think happened.

That would be one explanation as to why SHE covered it up.

That doesn't explain why HE would cover it up.

Even if she was trying to cover it up, she could've, should've come clean about the time she
dragged the investigators all around Universal trying to show them where she didn't really work

I hate her for dragging this out for over three years after that.

[MrBottomTooth]

How fucked up would you have to be to find your granddaughter floating in your pool and not instantly call 911? Doesn't add up at all.

You see your flesh and blood lying there not breathing and instead of trying to revive her and call for an ambulance you instantly start thinking, "Oh shit, I am in trouble. How do we cover this up?"

Plus she was googling how to break a neck?

They are trying to railroad the dad. What a horrible thing to do. Lawyers make me sick.

[Redrob]

The trial is just a sensational soap opera.

I miss the CNN news reporting.

[Thurbs]

she killed the kid.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

How fucked up would you have to be to find your granddaughter floating in your pool and not instantly call 911? Doesn't add up at all.

You see your flesh and blood lying there not breathing and instead of trying to revive her and call for an ambulance you instantly start thinking, "Oh shit, I am in trouble. How do we cover this up?"

Plus she was googling how to break a neck?

They are trying to railroad the dad. What a horrible thing to do. Lawyers make me sick.

They are also trying to railroad the meter reader that called in the location of the remains. Turned his life upside down and drug him through the mud all in an attempt to create reasonable doubt regardless of his actual involvement.

Add to that all the people that searched for the missing child, donated time and money and walked the swamps in the hot florida summer sun all while Casey and as the defense contends her father knew what had happened and where the body was.

The scope of deception deserves 30 years in jail which would be fitting for a Mom that wanted her freedom so bad she would kill her child.

[ideaworx]

She is going to fry like bacon

[Choker]

Originally Posted by justinsain

That would be one explanation as to why SHE covered it up.

That doesn't explain why HE would cover it up.

Even if she was trying to cover it up, she could've, should've come clean about the time she
dragged the investigators all around Universal trying to show them where she didn't really work

I hate her for dragging this out for over three years after that.

If HE was the one watching the kid when she accidently drowned then there's his motivation, and why did he attempt to kill himself?
If I was watching my grandchild and she accidently drowned due to me not watching her properly, suicide would be my first thought, yeah.

Yeah there are lots of child drownings in Florida, I have a pool and two granddaughters. If any one of them accidently drowned I should be charged with child abuse, neglect, involuntary manslaughter and whatever else the state could throw at me.

[ShellyCrash]

I stream it all day too.

People go to jail for first degree murder based on circumstantial evidence all the time. Take Scott Peterson for example. I think there are many parallels to that case.

In both cases the body had rotted past the point of being able to determine cause of death, just means (homicide), no proof to show how the victim was killed, and neither case had a smoking gun piece of evidence that stood on it's own. It was the accumulation of the circumstantial evidence that shows there is no other reasonable conclusion.

The DA has said in court they have computer evidence taken of the anthony family home PC that they claim blows the defense's George found the body and timeline that they plan to present at rebuttal after the defense rests. George did go to work that day. Once you eliminate George as being present the defense falls apart.

Additionally the defense has informed the judge that they will be changing their defense strategy / version of events. They gave the judge 3 case examples where defense has done so.

I think they will back off the sexual abuse, after all they didn't mention it what so ever with Lee Anthony on the stand. I suspect they struck a deal with the family to take that subject off the table in exchange for them to fall on their swords, so to speak, and testify in ways that will assist in Casey's defense.

I feel there is still more to see from the DA and I think in the end they will find her guilty, but will give life not death. Just my 2 cents.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Choker

If HE was the one watching the kid when she accidently drowned then there's his motivation, and why did he attempt to kill himself?
If I was watching my grandchild and she accidently drowned due to me not watching her properly, suicide would be my first thought, yeah.

Yeah there are lots of child drownings in Florida, I have a pool and two granddaughters. If any one of them accidently drowned I should be charged with child abuse, neglect, involuntary manslaughter and whatever else the state could throw at me.

If HE was watching and responsible for the child when she drowned, why would Casey go along with the deception especially when considering her relationship with her parents.

The state contends the father abused her. Why continue to protect him when he is responsible for her child's death?

As for the father's suicide thoughts ( he went to a hotel and wrote a note but didn't take further action )

I don't remember if that happened before or after the body was found but.....

He lost his granddaughter. His daughter is in jail charged with murder. He had people camped outside his house yelling all kinds of stuff. The media circus followed him everywhere along with all kinds of accusations. His life was turned upside down, his life has changed forever and it will never be like it once was. The hope he had that it would had reached a point so low he was ready to give up on life. Everyone has a breaking point and just what I've described above is more than enough for him to reach his. The accusations by the defense wasn't necessary for him to consider suicide. They just want the jury to think that.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I stream it all day too.

People go to jail for first degree murder based on circumstantial evidence all the time. Take Scott Peterson for example. I think there are many parallels to that case.

In both cases the body had rotted past the point of being able to determine cause of death, just means (homicide), no proof to show how the victim was killed, and neither case had a smoking gun piece of evidence that stood on it's own. It was the accumulation of the circumstantial evidence that shows there is no other reasonable conclusion.

The DA has said in court they have computer evidence taken of the anthony family home PC that they claim blows the defense's George found the body and timeline that they plan to present at rebuttal after the defense rests. George did go to work that day. Once you eliminate George as being present the defense falls apart.

Additionally the defense has informed the judge that they will be changing their defense strategy / version of events. They gave the judge 3 case examples where defense has done so.

I think they will back off the sexual abuse, after all they didn't mention it what so ever with Lee Anthony on the stand. I suspect they struck a deal with the family to take that subject off the table in exchange for them to fall on their swords, so to speak, and testify in ways that will assist in Casey's defense.

I feel there is still more to see from the DA and I think in the end they will find her guilty, but will give life not death. Just my 2 cents.

You might as well add a spoiler tag to this because you nailed it

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by justinsain

You might as well add a spoiler tag to this because you nailed it

Thanks man

[Choker]

We should organize a pool on the outcome.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Choker

We should organize a pool on the outcome.

Will we have to cover up who loses in the pool

[bean-aid]

Involuntary manslaughter will be outcome

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Choker

If her accusation that her father molested her for years is true, her acting like nothing happened after the baby drowned would be consistent of someone deeply disturbed and accustomed to acting like very bad things didn't happen. This would be her way of coping. Hey I'm not defending the bitch. just stating what I think happened.

The accusations aren't true at all. They are doing what the defense team has to do - push blame on everyone else except for her. They are trying to put the blame on everyone, including the unlucky guy who found the body. That's just sad.

As for the entire insanity thing.... Bullshit. If your "insane" when you committed a crime, you should be sent to prison for the rest of your life based on that fact alone. If you are insane to the point where you do not understand right from wrong, you should go to prison for life.

[theking]

I have watched it/watching it and the State has attempted to use circumstantial evidence to convict her of premeditated murder. The forensic science the State has used is weak at its best...and in my opinion has not proved that the little girl was even murdered. Thus I am of the opinion that she certainly will not be convicted of 1st degree murder but the jury will convict her of a lesser charge.

Most of the talking head attorney's have stated that no matter what she is convicted of that it will be overturned on appeal primarily because of the Judge making errors.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by theking

I have watched it/watching it and the State has attempted to use circumstantial evidence to convict her of premeditated murder. The forensic science the State has used is weak at its best...and in my opinion has not proved that the little girl was even murdered. Thus I am of the opinion that she certainly will not be convicted of 1st degree murder but the jury will convict her of a lesser charge.

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My thoughts exactly

[shimmy2]

casey is on all day in the islands too, cnn/hln are the only english channels here. it is only interrupted by the weather report, then back to the trial. she will walk unless she decides to talk on the stand

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Horny Dude

If she drowned accidentally then whats with the tape on the mouth of the baby.

That's what I was thinking.

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[ManuteBol]

Krunk (Meter Reader) goes on tomorrow, he better come across as trust worthy, or it could be bad.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's what I was thinking.

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It has been said that Casey Anthony was giving Caylee Xanax before she went out at night to make the kid pass out so she wouldn't need a babysitter. She was using the "Nanny Zanny" as an inside joke with her boyfriend, indicating she doped the kid before she went clubbing. It wouldn't be tough to accidentally overdose the kid, or even impair her to where she fell in the pool when she was on Xanax.

The theory for that is she/they panicked after Caylee drowned/overdosed on Xanax/etc. and put the tape over her mouth and dumped the body to cover it up and make it appear that she was abducted and killed. A strange theory but not out of the question...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

The theory for that is she/they panicked after Caylee drowned/overdosed on Xanax/etc. and put the tape over her mouth and dumped the body to cover it up and make it appear that she was abducted and killed. A strange theory but not out of the question...

Ok, I can see that being a theory. thanks ....

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[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by ManuteBol

Krunk (Meter Reader) goes on tomorrow, he better come across as trust worthy, or it could be bad.

Bad for who?

Question I have is how did so many people know where the body was "generally speaking" but wasn't found till December.

2 PI's, Krunk, and the psychic

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Choker

I think the baby accidently drowned and Casey and her Father covered it up. I haven't seen what I consider any hard evidence that she murdered the kid. It all seems circumstantial

How much bad faith do you see?

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by ManuteBol

Krunk (Meter Reader) goes on tomorrow, he better come across as trust worthy, or it could be bad.

dude looks like scooby doo villian. i might actually tune in to court highlights today for kicks

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by beaner

Bad for who?

Question I have is how did so many people know where the body was "generally speaking" but wasn't found till December.

2 PI's, Krunk, and the psychic

The two PIs were working with the psychic.

The psychic actually had the right area. One PI walked around while talking with the psychic on the phone trying to get a sense of where to look. He should have been organizing a through search of the entire area instead. The second PI spent most of the time sitting in the car and video taping the other PI looking around. His intentions were to sell the tape to the media if they got lucky and found the remains. They showed the taped yesterday in court and the two PIs were lazy and stupid. Their search was by no means as through as the ones conducted by the equsearch teams.

Krunk was in the area as a meter reader and was taking a piss in the edge of the woods and saw the garbage bag. He called it in and the sheriffs sent out a deputy to investigate. The lazy Deputy failed to do a thorough search saying there was too much water and he had seen a snake. He was very close but didn't put in the effort to discover the remains.

Krunk doesn't hear anything about the garbage bag but can't let it go as he thinks he found it. Time goes by and he feels he needs to take a second look. I'm not sure about this but I believe the second time he actually moves the garbage bag and the skull actually falls out. He was with a co worker and has him call 911 to say that he defiantly has the remains this time.

A black garbage bag laying flat on the muddy ground with plants growing over it would be hard to spot in the wooded underbrush. That's something you could pass five feet from and not notice it so its understandable that the dumb ass PIs could walk right passed it.

There is no excuse for the deputy not doing a proper search. He should have actually found the garbage bag in question and not give up because he didn't want to get his shoes muddy. That fuckup cost a lot of time and important DNA evidence was lost.

[blackwater]

I find it bizarre how trials in the US are played out like some TV drama. Great TV though.

[BFT3K]

I am not following it too closely, as it is yet another distraction, but from I've seen/heard so far, there is zero chance they will find this chick guilty of first degree murder.

[ManuteBol]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

dude looks like scooby doo villian. i might actually tune in to court highlights today for kicks

I think we look a little alike, Krunk is a good looking lad.

Originally Posted by beaner

Bad for who?

Bad for the prosecutor, if he doesn't sound credible.

Originally Posted by blackwater

I find it bizarre how trials in the US are played out like some TV drama. Great TV though.

Why, U.S. citizens are controlled by their Media, it's what makes them unique.

I miss blind date, I ❤'d that show.

[TurboAngel]

I haven't watched much of it other than what's on the news here. I thinks she's a wack job.

[PornoMonster]

Casey Killed her child, Casey either paid or gave sex to Krunk to hide the body!

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Casey Killed her child, Casey either paid or gave sex to Krunk to hide the body!

post evidence now!