AR-15 Owners

[AaronM]

Go buy this shit now and have some fun before they find a way to ban it.

[Jon Oso]

That... is... ridiculous.

Surprised it isn't banned already.

Negligible difference between the full auto and that one. Might just be the video but it's hard to tell.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Negligible difference between the full auto and that one. Might just be the video but it's hard to tell.

That's the idea. It's a new take on the old Hell Fire and Hell Storm 2000 trigger accessories that have been out for years. Except, this thing actually works.

[CYF]

sweet toy

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by AaronM

That's the idea. It's a new take on the old Hell Fire and Hell Storm 2000 trigger accessories that have been out for years. Except, this thing actually works.

Now they need to figure out a way to adapt that technology to the FN5-7 pistol and I'll be a happy camper.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Now they need to figure out a way to adapt that technology to the FN5-7 pistol and I'll be a happy camper.

Im going to outright honest. Your the only person that has ever talked good of that gun. At least 3 people personally said to me I bought that and within a month got rid of it. numerous others had bad things to say.

There are better out there. Sure its neat that it shoots the bullet it does. Sack the fuck up and get yourself at least a .40 maybe .45


But since youre a fan of FN... Got a cool P90 vid coming for you soon.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Deej

....Sack the fuck up...

[V_RocKs]

I'd hit it,20x's!

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Deej

Im going to outright honest. Your the only person that has ever talked good of that gun. At least 3 people personally said to me I bought that and within a month got rid of it. numerous others had bad things to say.

There are better out there. Sure its neat that it shoots the bullet it does. Sack the fuck up and get yourself at least a .40 maybe .45


But since youre a fan of FN... Got a cool P90 vid coming for you soon.

I couldn't agree more. For the price of that PoS, you can get a sick Kimber 1911 or a number of better performing handguns for far less.

Dual P90's coming soon...

[L-Pink]

Aaron, interesting video/product. Is the towel necessary? Seems having to wear a glove or hold a towel would be a major draw back. Thanks.

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[AaronM]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Aaron, interesting video/product. Is the towel necessary? Seems having to wear a glove or hold a towel would be a major draw back. Thanks.

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LOL, No, the T-shirt is ghetto.

We had been shooting for awhile and the barrel was hot as hell. I didn't have a glove with me so I improvised. In a normal situation I would have allowed the gun more time to cool down. We put about 300 rounds though it in a very short period of time. That last mag was the only one I needed to use the shirt for. Changing to a different hand guard would help that too.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by AaronM

LOL, No, the T-shirt is ghetto.

We had been shooting for awhile and the barrel was hot as hell. I didn't have a glove with me so I improvised. In a normal situation I would have allowed the gun more time to cool down. We put about 300 rounds though it in a very short period of time. That last mag was the only one I needed to use the shirt for. Changing to a different hand guard would help that too.

Thanks, that makes sense. (and it was kind of ghetto) lol.


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[Choker]

I picked up 9 of these. What I found is that a pistol grips works much better. More natural to push forward on it rather than a normal grip. 300 rounds is a bit much isn't it? Your at the point of damaging your barrel I think. 100 rounds with the bump stock makes the barrel smoking hot. After 300 the barrel is so hot when you chamber a round it right away expands from the heated barrel so much it could jam. I was told by a dealer that this company is developing these stocks for ak47's.

[L-Pink]

What is the cost?

[Choker]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

What is the cost?

$349.99 with free shipping online. I picked mine up at a show for cheaper, but they are hard to find at shows. The company is telling the resellers that they must sell for 349.99 and they charge the resellers like 275 a pop. They have a great product and they know it.

[Choker]

Oh it comes with a letter from the ATF saying it is legal and no registration needed. Since the law defines a automatic weapon as more than 1 round per trigger pull, it slides in under the law since it is only one round per trigger pull. However once these get into the hands of a few criminals I expect the ATF to outlaw thier sale. So stock up now.

I have read that they are trying to ban the import of Saigi 12 guages now. I stocked up on those also. LOL.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Choker

I picked up 9 of these. What I found is that a pistol grips works much better. More natural to push forward on it rather than a normal grip. 300 rounds is a bit much isn't it? Your at the point of damaging your barrel I think. 100 rounds with the bump stock makes the barrel smoking hot. After 300 the barrel is so hot when you chamber a round it right away expands from the heated barrel so much it could jam. I was told by a dealer that this company is developing these stocks for ak47's.

No doubt I was pushing the limit on the barrel. Honestly though, I don't care. I've pushed a number of guns to their breaking point. In fact, that's one of the reasons I push them hard in the first place. That particular barrel is due for replacement anyway.

Yes, they are working on an AK-47 version.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Choker

Oh it comes with a letter from the ATF saying it is legal and no registration needed. Since the law defines a automatic weapon as more than 1 round per trigger pull, it slides in under the law since it is only one round per trigger pull. However once these get into the hands of a few criminals I expect the ATF to outlaw thier sale. So stock up now.

I have read that they are trying to ban the import of Saigi 12 guages now. I stocked up on those also. LOL.

The ATF made the Saiga announcement back in January at the Shot Show. The difference is that if they ban the stock, there will be no way to register it and it will become illegal to use.

You bought 9 of them? Why? I'd buy 1 and stick it on a basic AR build. I certainly would not make it my primary gun or stock. It's a neat accessory to play around with but not realistic for any sort of real world application.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by AaronM

The ATF made the Saiga announcement back in January at the Shot Show. The difference is that if they ban the stock, there will be no way to register it and it will become illegal to use.

What if your in a state where no registration is required?

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Choker

What if your in a state where no registration is required?

No such thing. We are talking about NFA items which makes it Federal. If/When the Feds ban it....It's gone and you will be arrested for using it. I'm talking about the stock here.

The Saiga is a different issue and any of those you own would be grandfathered in. I'm pretty sure they are banning the manufacture and import of the shotgun, not classifying them as NFA items....But I could be mistaken about that. Haven't paid much attention.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by AaronM

No such thing. We are talking about NFA items which makes it Federal. If/When the Feds ban it....It's gone and you will be arrested for using it. I'm talking about the stock here.

The Saiga is a different issue and any of those you own would be grandfathered in. I'm pretty sure they are banning the manufacture and import of the shotgun, not classifying them as NFA items....But I could be mistaken about that. Haven't paid much attention.

What do you mean no such thing? These stocks have no serial numbers on them and the sales are not tracked. I may be wrong, but pretty sure whenever I buy a gun in Florida the dealer calls in a background check but does not register the gun to my name with any government agency. As far as I can tell Florida has no gun registration laws.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Choker

What do you mean no such thing? These stocks have no serial numbers on them and the sales are not tracked. I may be wrong, but pretty sure whenever I buy a gun in Florida the dealer calls in a background check but does not register the gun to my name with any government agency. As far as I can tell Florida has no gun registration laws.

100% wrong. Every gun you buy from a dealer in any State has to be registered. OK, it's not called "registration" but it's the same thing. It's a "Firearms Transaction Record" which is why they have you fill out the 4473 form before they run your background check.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473

[campimp]

why would any sane person want that banned? looks perfect for deer hunting

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by campimp

why would any sane person want that banned? looks perfect for deer hunting

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[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Choker

Oh it comes with a letter from the ATF saying it is legal and no registration needed. LOL.

Yup

[DBS.US]

Remember these,
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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by campimp

why would any sane person want that banned? looks perfect for deer hunting

for deer goulash maybe

[mynameisjim]

Depends on your state law I think. Here in Illinois the law has the language about one bullet firing per trigger pull, but it also has a second paragraph which states that any combination of parts assembled for the purpose of making a machine gun is illegal.

Either way, that looks like it's more for fun than any actual use. The accuracy must be terrible with all that movement. I assume with practice it could get better though. Not to mention, holding a sliding pistol grip makes it super easy to accidentally fire a round when tipping the gun up or down or quickly moving the gun in a tense situation. Looks like a lot of fun to shoot, but not sure if it has any real tactical purpose.

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by Deej

Im going to outright honest. Your the only person that has ever talked good of that gun. At least 3 people personally said to me I bought that and within a month got rid of it. numerous others had bad things to say.

There are better out there. Sure its neat that it shoots the bullet it does. Sack the fuck up and get yourself at least a .40 maybe .45


But since youre a fan of FN... Got a cool P90 vid coming for you soon.

I went out and shot a bunch of handguns with a buddy that had free rentals at a range... the only thing I didn't like about it was the price of ammo.

I shot a tighter group with that than any of the other guns I have ever shot, and quicker as it has little recoil to speak of. It was much louder than the other guns I shot but after going through about 100 rounds I felt like I could keep shooting it. I shot some other guns (mainly glock compacts) that it felt like my hand was going to break after one magazine because I couldn't get a good hold on it with my big(ger) hands.

I always hear people complain about how big they are and they aren't good for carry because it's hard to conceal... Wasn't really an issue for me because I am so tall.

What problems were people having with them?

[Choker]

Aaron what importer has Saigis for $300?

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I went out and shot a bunch of handguns with a buddy that had free rentals at a range... the only thing I didn't like about it was the price of ammo.

I shot a tighter group with that than any of the other guns I have ever shot, and quicker as it has little recoil to speak of. It was much louder than the other guns I shot but after going through about 100 rounds I felt like I could keep shooting it. I shot some other guns (mainly glock compacts) that it felt like my hand was going to break after one magazine because I couldn't get a good hold on it with my big(ger) hands.

I always hear people complain about how big they are and they aren't good for carry because it's hard to conceal... Wasn't really an issue for me because I am so tall.

What problems were people having with them?

The ammo is expensive because it is proprietary to the FN series. All of the FN guns shoot just that specific bullet. FN 5.7 FN p90 and i think the FN FAL even shoots the same.

it shoot precise yes, but its not hard hitting. Secret service carry them. all in all its your own preference but I have heard nothing good. grip mostly. feel. some said weak feeling like you compared the glocks too.

personally I have an XDm .40 and I like it a lot. My friend has a wide variety of glocks and personally I like the .45 the best. It even seems to shoot smoother than his .40 and 9mm.

whatever man, youre drunk!

[rayadp05]

Cool looking shit there bro. Hell, I'd buy it and wouldn't think twice about using against a motherfucker trying to break into my house.

[Jakez]

Holy shit! Haha