weekly rebilling rather than monthly

[DVTimes]

Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

$5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.

[papill0n]

try sticking a cucumber up your arse and see if that helps

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by papill0n

try sticking a cucumber up your arse and see if that helps

ok

i tried it

but no result

[seeandsee]

that would just increace job for someone by 4 times :D

[TubeKing]

yeah, people want to see a $5 charge on their credit card every week, that will go unnoticed well.

[Agent 488]

my mind is still reeling from how mind blowing this idea is. once my hands stop shaking and vision returns to normal i'll respond properly to this thread.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

$5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.

You should go ahead and do that.. I'm positive you'll make a lot more money than a monthly rebill...

[Pseudonymous]

You are taking into account, that when they cancel, you'll only get 4 or 5 dollars out of them instead of 20-30?

[VIXEN ESCORTS]

Well he's just changed the pricing on all his sites from $34.95 recurring (remember this is Rosecabs and Cricket babes) to $4 for a 2 day trial then recurring at $18.95
Hope he told his affiliate.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by UKVixens

Well he's just changed the pricing on all his sites from $34.95 recurring (remember this is Rosecabs and Cricket babes) to $4 for a 2 day trial then recurring at $18.95
Hope he told his affiliate.

what affiliate?

[BareBacked]

Credit card statements come montly
Billing is done monthly

Would you want one user to give you 4 cb's when he sees the statement ?

[The Porn Nerd]

Okay class LISTEN UP, and take very good notes here. Ready? Okay, here we go.

Ahem, ahem:

NEVER REMIND YOUR CUSTOMERS THEY'RE YOUR CUSTOMER.
(How many people rebill month after month, then you send them an email or something and they remember and go "Oh shit! Gotta cancel that...")

Carry on.

[VIXEN ESCORTS]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

$5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.

If you want lower price points, break your site down into individual animals, for example:

Fat Pig 1

Fat Pig 2

Ugly Dog 1

Ugly Dog 2

etc etc, you could even sell advertising to the WWF

[ahoy]

Are you just fucking with us?

Some of your ideas, actually all of them, are so awful I am convinced you are just fucking with everyone.

[Lint]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

my mind is still reeling from how mind blowing this idea is. once my hands stop shaking and vision returns to normal i'll respond properly to this thread.

[PornStarToys]

Why not just say you will charge them $5, and really charge them $10,000?

I doubt they will notice and you'll be rich!

[PR_Dave]

Weekly = 4 times the chargebacks.

[DamianJ]

And this, ladies and gents, is what Care In The Community produces

[wehateporn]

There's something in what you say DVTimes. If you go for an exact week or an exact month, it's easier for people to keep track of the date they need to cancel by, whereas if you went for 11 days or 17 days, most people can't keep track of that in their heads, which will mean more people forgetting to cancel on time.

[Chosen]

Not a good idea...

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

There's something in what you say DVTimes. If you go for an exact week or an exact month, it's easier for people to keep track of the date they need to cancel by, whereas if you went for 11 days or 17 days, most people can't keep track of that in their heads, which will mean more people forgetting to cancel on time.

It's nice to see you being as stupid here are you are on other forums.

It's a sad day when your site is so shit you make plans to trick people into staying.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

It's nice to see you being as stupid here are you are on other forums.

It's a sad day when your site is so shit you make plans to trick people into staying.

I only have affiliate sites myself. I don't see many sites sending out reminder emails "It's your last chance to cancel now before you get rebilled tomorrow".

If it's made clear from the start it's not a trick. When I go into the major supermarkets I see all kinds of "Tricks" e.g. initially setting a price too high so as it can then be reduced and have half price signs; when really the new price is what it should have been all along.

This is all part of business these days. If you can avoid it yourself then good for you.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I only have affiliate sites myself. I don't see many sites sending out reminder emails "It's your last chance to cancel now before you get rebilled tomorrow".

Not sure what that has to do with my point?

I am saying that if you are deliberately picking odd trial dates in order to try and fool customers into forgetting to cancel, then it's a sad day.

Have sites that are better and that customers enjoy, then you don't need to try and hoodwink them into forgetting to cancel a trial.

If your instinct to get customers is to try and gip them, then, well, that's a bit shit really.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

When I go into the major supermarkets I see all kinds of "Tricks" e.g. initially setting a price too high so as it can then be reduced and have half price signs; when really the new price is what it should have been all along.

Appaling analogy. You are suggesting making rebill cycles an unusual length to try and hope that customers are fooled into not canceling. That is nothing like a supermarket price point.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

This is all part of business these days. If you can avoid it yourself then good for you.

It's not a matter of can. In the UK if you try and mislead your customer in anyway, the ASA will now be on you. Check your site copy carefully. Have you really got 1,062 "high definition" videos there? Are you sure "no other site" has as much content as you?

Also, just a point, I note you are laughably using technology that stops customers downloading what they have paid you money for by restricting use of a Download Manager!?! You realise this is 2011 and bandwidth costs as good as nothing?

You are giving your *paying* customers a worse experience than if they pirated your bloody content. Get rid of it.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Also, just a point, I note you are laughably using technology that stops customers downloading what they have paid you money for by restricting use of a Download Manager!?! You realise this is 2011 and bandwidth costs as good as nothing?

I've only got a moment right now, but who do you think I am? You mentioned I was on other forums and now you're linking me with a site that restricts the use of Download Manager. To be clear my main site is WeHatePorn.com and I have a number of very small affiliate sites. No paysites

[Barry-xlovecam]

You would end up paying the the flat rate transaction fee your processor charges 4.333x a month v. once per month apart from the ideas mentioned above.

Also, most monthly subscriptions are $30 to $40/month ...

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I've only got a moment right now, but who do you think I am? You mentioned I was on other forums and now you're linking me with a site that restricts the use of Download Manager. To be clear my main site is WeHatePorn.com and I have a number of very small affiliate sites. No paysites

I clicked on the 'downblouseloving' link in your sig.

I assumed that was your site, my bad.

[DVTimes]

In the real world pealy buy things daily and weekly not just monthly.

Pay as you go is very popular way to have a phone in the uk, so why not with porn.

We have had trials (from free to a few $$$) for a while.

Its not tricking people its simply charging them the same but over a month, rather than per month.

Anyway my salesa have shot up this week by charging $4 and then $16 per month.

[Wizzo]

The biggest problem with weekly rebills is it would be 4-5 transactions on every CC statement...

[cooldude7]

what about xsales ?

[signupdamnit]

You are thinking independently. That is a good thing. But I think you will have to find a way around the CB and 4 transactions per month issue before it becomes viable.

BTW, as an affiliate I really don't like getting under $10 for a monthly join. As a highly experienced affiliate I hate it because I know most of the time I would make more at the normal rates even when taking into account slightly better conversion rates due to the lower price point. Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.

Ouch. :D
You're not sending any my way either mofo. haha!

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

You are thinking independently. That is a good thing. But I think you will have to find a way around the CB and 4 transactions per month issue before it becomes viable.

BTW, as an affiliate I really don't like getting under $10 for a monthly join. As a highly experienced affiliate I hate it because I know most of the time I would make more at the normal rates even when taking into account slightly better conversion rates due to the lower price point. Just to give you some input. While I am technically an affiliate of yours I don't send you much traffic.

yes sucks every time i get my whopping 4.95 x-art rebills, which sucks, and the site is great and sells well.

[INever]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

It's not a matter of can. In the UK if you try and mislead your customer in anyway, the ASA will now be on you. Check your site copy carefully. Have you really got 1,062 "high definition" videos there? Are you sure "no other site" has as much content as you?

this aint the UK

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by INever

this aint the UK

Sorry, what is *this* you are referring to?

The site downblouseloving I am referring to certainly is a UK site, and can get into trouble now from the Advertising Standards Authority for putting misleading sales copy.

As is any UK operated site.

This is a new piece of legislation and God Bless you and your American Pie for not needing to be interested, but this is an international forum.

[INever]

I know it's international forum. Nothing personal, was just "yanking" your chain.

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by INever

this aint the UK

Fucking idiot.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Ouch. :D
You're not sending any my way either mofo. haha!

Well I didn't intend it quite in that way. I didn't wish to misrepresent myself as a big affiliate of his who is upset. The last time I checked I didn't have much traffic in his niches though I send him some.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Well I didn't intend it quite in that way. I didn't wish to misrepresent myself as a big affiliate of his who is upset. The last time I checked I didn't have much traffic in his niches though I send him some.

I know man, just kidding.
Hope you are doing well with the sites you are promoting.

[Paul Markham]

Here's a better idea. work out your average retention time. Must be all of 5 weeks. And sell a 3 month join for $30. This way you've lost very little, the potential customer thinks he's getting a great deal and yu get more sign ups.

Before you say it about me, our average is a lot longer, so doing it would need to trable joins at least to break even.

Cue Damian for a stupid reply.

[Sly]

All we need now is for ArseWithClass to join the conversation and we'll have a complete thread.

[SGS]

Originally Posted by Sly

All we need now is for ArseWithClass to join the conversation and we'll have a complete thread.

lol 23456

[NETbilling]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Rather than charge $20 (or so) per month, I wonder if people would have better results if it was $5 per week re-bill.

$5 does not seem such as much and I wonder if people would join then stay much longer.

Its a shame ccbill does not allow less than 30 days.

I was thinking of charging $4 per 4 days.

Hi,

With your own merchant account using a company like NETbilling to handle your processing, not only will you pay less than 3rd party processing but you will be able to set whatever billing interval you would like. We have many suggestions on what works and does not from our years of processing and gathered data.

Let us know if you are interested in making the switch.

Thanks, Mitch

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

Hi,

With your own merchant account using a company like NETbilling to handle your processing, not only will you pay less than 3rd party processing but you will be able to set whatever billing interval you would like. We have many suggestions on what works and does not from our years of processing and gathered data.

Let us know if you are interested in making the switch.

Thanks, Mitch

Ha ha. If only you knew.

Seriously. I can predict his response to you now.

"What si a mercany account? Who do I get won?"

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by TheDA

Ha ha. If only you knew.

Seriously. I can predict his response to you now.

"What si a mercany account? Who do I get won?"

I'd say something but, I'm lost for words!! Who are ewe?

[NETbilling]

oh dear...

[DamianJ]

Mitch, you'll be able to retire on the $10 bucks a month DVTimes makes.

[Juicy D. Links]

Fuck WEEKLY you should do it DAILY !!!!!!!!!!!!

lolollllllll