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How much would a CMS be worth if it did all this? And what else would be needed?
Manages content on a site.
Manages countless domains. Manages countless models. Sets the date for release down to the time of day. Allows content to be grouped within the site to a model, sub section or different features. Has a rotating banner system for promoting other sites, within the members area. Allows for the writing of articles with or without pictures. The CMS is the one that runs this site www.astral-blue.com/tour/ the tour gives some idea of what it does. The best feature is it's able to be used by someone like me. So obviously needs little brain power. ![]() The programmer and me are doing a turn key site for a client and it's set us thinking, time to monetize the CMS. He will be upgrading it soon with features like slide shows. So anything else needed? |
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The price we will sell it for will be a one off and the only need for any further charges will be if the programmer is required to do any custom work, like adding domains or features.
Adding things like content, changing dates, adding attributes (features), banners is something the user does. |
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I'd have a look at what the good CMS systems on the market do and then work out a way to make yours better than the competition, then bring it to market.
Here is the Elevated X list to give you an idea of what people expect nowadays. HTH D -- Elevated X Pay Site CMS Features Easy to Use User friendly admin panel with graphical, icon based navigation. Manage as many sites as you like from 1 admin panel. Update your sites remotely from anywhere using your PC, Mac or iPhone. Easy to learn and operate even for inexperienced users. Design templates can be edited by anyone who knows HTML. Fully compatible with all major billing company and affiliate program software. Fully compatible with popular affiliate scripts. Works with member management and site security scripts like StrongBox and ProxyPass. Professional Installation and Tech Support We install your CMS on your server and deliver it 100% ready to use. Searchable knowledge base with step by step "how-to" guides. Prompt, professional US based technical support staff. 24/7 online support ticket system. High Performance Up to date technology using the latest versions of PHP and MySQL. Smarty template code using CSS with HTML. Support for FLV Tool and Wowza for streaming Flash video. 3 levels of caching for database performance, fast page loads and content delivery. Work Smarter...and Faster Create multiple site administrators with different permissions for each site. Optional admin IP address restriction for additional security. Schedule automated database backups to protect site data and settings. Automated batching of photo resizing, watermarking, thumbnailing, Zip, compressing, video encoding and more. Add new sites quickly and easily within minutes to grow your company faster. 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Record Keeping Store model releases and IDs online in a variety of file formats. List URL's of where content is published for each model. Add custom fields to records as needed. Manage Your Content Manage 3rd party feeds and plug-ins, photos, videos, audio files and erotic stories. Organize and separate 3rd party content into bonus sites, video feeds, friends and more. DVD download section with boxcovers, DVD info and a listing of scenes. Give users the choice of downloading videos or viewing them on your site. Organize and keyword tag your content using as many categories and sub-categories as you like. A-Z list of models with individual bio pages showing each model's updates, bio, upsells and more. Specify model gender as male, female or transsexual for the model index. Automatically create thumbnails from video screen captures. Automatically crop, watermark, sharpen, resize and compress photos. Automatically crop thumbnails for galleries in portrait, landscape or uniform sizes. Automatically generate photo galleries in multiple sizes such as 1600, 1280, 1024 or any size you like. Built-in thumbnail cropper for full control over every image inside a site. Create downloadable Zip files of photo sets with 1 click. HTML5 Support for automatically embedding H.264 video for users who visit a site on an iPad. Content Scheduling Schedule updates by date or time release content based on the lifespan of every member. Batch schedule updates and let the system calculate the dates automatically. Rotate your updates using our custom automatic content scheduling system. Enter and schedule text or HTML based news/journal/blog entries in advance. Schedule highlighted "What's Hot" or "Weekly Feature" updates or rotate randomly with every page load. Schedule tour updates in advance and/or in sync with member updates. Schedule surveys/polls or rotate randomly with every visit. Keep Your Members Coming Back Search engine with autocomplete and results based on keyword, category and media type. Advanced search that filters by keyword, categories, date and other user defined criteria. Monthly calendar of past, present and future updates, events, cam shows and more. Browse and sort updates by date added, model name, A-Z model listing and popularity. Sort bonus sites, plug-ins, feeds, stories and audio files by category. Members can add keyword tags to updates and view their list of tags. Members can save their favorite updates for later viewing. Comment system for members to comment on updates and news/blog entries. Rating system for members to rate photo sets, videos and models. Separate top lists to show top rated photo sets, videos and models. Top lists to show most downloaded videos, most viewed models, most favorited updates and more. Private messaging system for members to message you or talk to your models. Automatic form generator for contact, support, feedback forms and more. Slide show feature for a hands-free photo gallery viewing experience. Show a list of suggested updates for each member based on their ratings. Multi-question polls and sophisticated surveys. Show a scrolling list of previews of what's coming soon to keep people coming back. Tube-style animation previews when you mouseover a thumbnail. Subscribe to a RSS feed of site updates. Automatically post site updates on Twitter. Make More Money From Your Members Show a welcome screen with a full page ad offer when a member first logs into a site. Create a rotation of offers to show different ads on page load. Banner Manager serves text, banner or rich media ads (HTML, Flash, IFrame, etc.). Ads can be weighted to control how often each ad shows up in rotation. Set ads to show only on specific target zones, specific model pages, gallery pages and more. See a list of ads and their total clicks in the admin panel. Offer Your Site In Multiple Languages Members can choose which language to view your site in. Built-in support for manual human translation services for more accuracy and higher quality translations. Make More Money With Free Trials and Limited Trials Offer limited access or free trials to get more members to upgrade their membership. Limit access to only certain pages of a gallery or certain video clips within each update. Limit full content access to only the newest updates. Block access to Zip files, bonus content or limit users to only viewing thumbnails. Limit members to only view a certain number of videos within a specific timeframe. Quickly and easily test setups to get you the best possible conversion rates. Make More Sales From Your Tours Manage multiple tours for every site including photos and video trailers. Generate tour pages as static HTML for the fastest load times. Auto-rotate different header images on every page load to make tours more dynamic and fresh. Show a scrolling list of previews of what's coming soon for better conversions. Choose which updates to show on a tour to only show the best updates. Choose the order of updates shown on each tour for maximum click through rates. Link updates to a full episode view or a separate embedded trailer page. Show a toplist of most popular updates linked to the episode, trailer or join page. Show an a-z index of models that can be sorted by name, date or popularity. Limit tour visitors to only watching a certain number of video trailers within a specific timeframe. Offer Multiple Versions of Tours Including Transparent and Tube Style Hybrids Publish episode/update style tours Publish transparent tours that look exactly the same as your member's area but don't allow access to content. Publish tube style tours complete with preview animation on mouseover, search, categories and trailers. * Increase the depth of your site by dozens, hundreds or thousands of pages for SEO and get more search engine traffic. |
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Are paysites still in demand? They are of corse but is the potential profit worth investing into another custom cms?
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it depends if you want to sell it or charge monthly
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Why would i pay for that if i can get it for free with wordpress?
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Can you show me please.
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Is it compatible with magic join pages?
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Wordpress + Plugins = CMS
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Seeing Damian's list here's a revised one. They just use a lot more words to sell it.
Easy to Use User friendly admin panel. Manage as many sites as you like from 1 admin panel. Update your sites remotely from anywhere using your PC, Mac or iPhone. Easy to learn and operate even for inexperienced users. Design templates can be edited by anyone who knows HTML. (not sure, I think so) Fully compatible with all major billing company and affiliate program software. Fully compatible with popular affiliate scripts. Works with member management and site security scripts like StrongBox and ProxyPass. Professional Installation and Tech Support We install your CMS on your server and deliver it 100% ready to use. High Performance Support for FLV Tool and Wowza for streaming Flash video. 3 levels of caching for database performance, fast page loads and content delivery. Work Smarter...and Faster Create multiple site administrators with different permissions for each site. List URL's of where content is published for each model. (Need to get that added) Manage Your Content Manage 3rd party feeds and plug-ins, photos, videos, audio files and erotic stories. Organize and separate 3rd party content into bonus sites, video feeds, friends and more. DVD download section with boxcovers, DVD info and a listing of scenes. Organize and keyword tag your content using as many categories and sub-categories as you like. A-Z list of models with individual bio pages showing each model's updates, bio, upsells and more. Specify model gender as male, female or transsexual for the model index. Content Scheduling Schedule updates by date. Enter and schedule text or HTML based news/journal/blog entries in advance. Keep Your Members Coming Back Monthly calendar of past, present and future updates, events, cam shows and more. Rating system for members to rate photo sets, videos and models. (can add) Separate top lists to show top rated photo sets, videos and models. (can add) Top lists to show most downloaded videos, most viewed models, most favorited updates and more. (can add) Private messaging system for members to message you or talk to your models. (can add) Slide show feature for a hands-free photo gallery viewing experience. (adding this) Show a scrolling list of previews of what's coming soon to keep people coming back. (can add) Make More Money From Your Members Banner Manager serves text, banner or rich media ads (HTML, Flash, IFrame, etc.). Ads can be weighted to control how often each ad shows up in rotation. See a list of ads and their total clicks in the admin panel. Make More Money With Free Trials and Limited Trials Offer limited access or free trials to get more members to upgrade their membership. Make More Sales From Your Tours Show an a-z index of models that can be sorted by name, date or popularity. Publish episode/update style tours Increase the depth of your site by dozens, hundreds or thousands of pages for SEO and get more search engine traffic. |
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Yes just what the site owner want, all the problems with WP and running a paysite on it.
Doesn't WP crash if over loaded? |
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![]() Ours does a bit more and does not require you to purchase as it's a pay as you go SaaS starting at $600 a month. It also automates your trancoding, provides device detection and delivery for mobile, add insertions, editing tools and very granular reporting.
It's cloud based on the worlds largest private fiber network. http://delvenetworks.com |
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hahahahahahahahahaha
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No, i can not show you.
Go to fucking google, type what you want to find about WP and you will get all answers and plugins to do with WP pretty much anything you want to do. It 2011, if you still don't know the power of WP, then you're living in last century my man. Start developing a CMS in this WP era is pretty dumb.... |
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WP is great if that's what you really need but it's 90% server bloat in most cases. |
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It's worth less than what it would cost to have something custom made for you.
I.e. if I can hire to make the site I want for $10,000 then I'm not going to pay you $400/mo. |
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i bet paul has never even installed wordpress
you're a joke mate - buying a script from you would be a serious mistake |
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![]() Nice if a sponsor is turning over $60,000 a month. But still for than a years rental someone would write a custom made CMS. Using your prices our CMS would be cheaper after 3 months with nothing to ever pay again. Quote:
![]() I knew that. This CMS is looking to be installed and working on your site for around $1500 to $1800. |
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give it away for free make money from ads.
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"Now you can use the FREE CMS used by The New York Times, CNN, Sony, VW, Forbes, Reuter, etc etc etc or you can use Paul Markham's CMS. The decision is yours!" ![]() but... wait... I was just told there's another WP user NASA does that name ring a bell to anyone? ![]()
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If WP can handle any number of domains, sub domains, videos, sets, models, attributes, updates and more. Plus is secure and won't crash, doesn't need to have someone with limited webmastering skills run it. Has technical back up, is installed and tested for you before it's handed over, can be changed to suit the users needs. Then I guess it's great. How many videos and sets in the members area of those sites you mentioned? |
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But that doesn't make it good for paysites.... actually, it's a pile of shit when it comes to content management. Something could be made for it to make it easier, but it wouldn't be based on any part of the core cms. Small sites (content wise) do great on it, a site with a large amount of content, would be downgrading by using wordpress. Your cms sounds fine, you don't need crazy features, it needs to be crazy ass simple. I've worked with every major cms in our Industry, and the one thing I miss is stupid simple!
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It can have any feature the user requires, just need programming in. We thought if we write them all in it becomes more confusing, more pricey and less suitable for most sites and webmasters. I'm expecting the simple version to come in at a price that everyone whose serious should be able to afford. $1500 isn't much for a one off payment for this type of solution. I use ours everyday and it was originally written to handle the $5 sites, with magic join links. 3000+ sets or videos. 1,000 domains With revolving banners so each site we wanted to promote would be promoted within the site, the member was viewing. Plus the mother sites. Managed under one system and content could be on one or every one of the domains. Speaking basically, we would enter in the details of all the domains, one off job or update as we build. Then as I add content I would import, from our original DB, the details of every scene, models and attributes then decide what site it would be listed on and when. As the idea of the $5 sites never took off we had a CMS we didn't need and stuck Astral Blue on it. Is it time to change that I wonder and launch $5 sites. With of course the magic join links for the clowns. ![]() Elevated X is $650 for the first month and $150 a month afterwards, are the prices tied or can be raised lowered in the future? Our CMS at $1500 would be less than the first years payment for Elevated X $2300 for the first year. |
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So why would anyone use a paid for CMS? I didn't attack EX except that over a year it's far more expensive. And you have to keep paying. |
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For several reasons:
1) the bad press from some people, an idea propagated by coders who, instead of working with WP are afraid of losing business. I mean, if those guys who are so smart that they could fake a moon landing are using it, I'll assume they know a tad little bit more than a disgruntled coder in a basement. 2) Like The Doc said, it really didn't have a good multimedia handling. UNTIL TODAY ![]() 3) People didn't know about all the power of WP until a few months ago, and in adult there were a few of us letting people know what they were missing. Now people is ready. 4) People who is comfortable and already using a CMS won't see the need to change. Plus, changing to WP (or any other CMS) could be a real problem since all existing adult CMS do it almost impossible in order to prevent this. 5) For the same reason people still sign up to paysites even though most of what they're paying for is available for free 6) Because there's a misconception about WP and its "free" status. If you want to run it as a CMS, you'll need to modify it. If you don't know how, then you'll need to pay someone to do it. If you know how, well, it's free (minus your time). The difference is that NOTHING is impossible with WP (at least that I found) and you can do the most crazy idea you could think of, while most adult CMS are restricted to their existing CLOSED SOURCE code. And quite probably, a custom code WP solution will still be cheaper (and light years more powerful) than any existing "off the shelf" CMS 7) WP wasn't really thought for adult, which has its own specifications. NOW IT IS ![]() 8) WP is so powerful and evolves so fast that its own power and speed of upgrades are kinda overwhelming for some people who like to live 5-10 years behind. 9) Many people didn't realize that with WP they have a CMS for eternity. And it will only evolve. And you have the support of tens of thousands people in any language 24/7. And by the time I wrote this post, chances are a new improvement in core, or a new plugin, or theme, or enhancement has been added (probably more than one). The day they realize what they're missing, there will be no turning back 10) Can't believe you still try to argue from a point of absolute ignorance on the subject do you have enough reasons? ![]()
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But major sites, they have all types of unique goodies in them. Like many plugins would give wp hell, key generation is going to create conflicts, scripts wont actually be protected.... then we have all the content matching / categorizing paysites typically do, far past what wp does and would require custom plugins. And that's all before auth methods and content protection, and customizing plugins to death so they work how you need - and not being able to update them once you do. I love wp, use it on every site I own.... other than paysites.
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This being said, keep in mind there are literally INFINITE way to deal with WP. I'm not exaggerating, they're INFINITE. It's imple impossible you'll find something that works in any site that can't be done in WP, it's simple out of logic. Listen, WP has evolved to a point where basically you could have an output for a database and nothing else, then it would be just queries to that database. You could even remote control most existing CMS, so BY DEFINITION, it's impossible there's something a CMS does that can't be done with WP. You can have content protected in any way you want, you can have it even outside your server, or in any kind of location. Not sure what do you mean about content matching and categorizing because as a matter of fact I don't know anything close to WP in that aspect, so maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but that is one of the best features of WP. And with the use of custom taxonomies, there's simply no match. I mean: which CMS is able to create as many taxonomies as you want and match them in (again LITERALLY) infinite ways? And all of these is things you do without the need for plugins, let alone using plugins (which, again, I avoid as much as I can). And all of these without considering CROSS NETWORK content match!
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