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Choker · 08-11-2011, 03:10 PM

I used to look down on AR-15's, thinking the guys who bought them were pussies who couldn't handle a real gun. Hell my kids outgrew 22's when they were 12. LOL. Nothing like the bang and stopping power of a 7.62 coming out the barrel of a quality made Russian AK. Tough and heavy, like a gun is supposed to be.

But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow. Holy fucking shit what a incredible weapon. Light as a feather, no recoil, and who cares if the rounds have half the power of a AK, hell you can carry 3 times as much ammo with you, and fire much more accurately than with a AK. AR-15 should be called Lego-15. I love the way everything is snap together on these guns. Change a barrel in 30 seconds? Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns.

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 03:13 PM

I've been building them for years. LOVE them.

Rochard · 08-11-2011, 03:21 PM

About time you figured it out.

Goldmaniacs · 08-11-2011, 03:26 PM

try not cleaning it thoroughly for a little while and see what happens

proton · 08-11-2011, 03:34 PM

thinking about getting one

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 03:34 PM

Building 5 new ones right now.

AR-15 in 6.8 (not pictured)
3 AR-15's in 5.56 (two lower receivers in front of the white box and 3rd in the box) Barrels on order from Lilja & Hart
1 AR-10 in .308 (On top of the box) Barrel on order from Lilja

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

...But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow.

Mind if I ask what you bought?

Vendzilla · 08-11-2011, 03:58 PM

I love mine, where ever the first bullet goes, the next 15 will follow

Choker · 08-11-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Mind if I ask what you bought?

SW Sport and a clone of same and a clone of same with I think 6 inch barrel. Picked up two Mossberg 500s, a Saigi 12 guage and a AK also. The 6 inch barrel one I fucking love. It's light enough to shoot one handed as a pistol. It actually looks like 4 inches I'm not sure where you would start measuring it. Quite a bit of gas in your face from it but I got used to it. It freaked me out at first.

Dead · 08-11-2011, 05:36 PM

The AR is a wonderful gun to shoot, full auto and cheap! I like to stretch the range a bit with my old Enfield. 400 yards is still a challenge, my eyes just aren't what they used to be ;)

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

SW Sport and a clone of same and a clone of same with I think 6 inch barrel. Picked up two Mossberg 500s, a Saigi 12 guage and a AK also. The 6 inch barrel one I fucking love. It's light enough to shoot one handed as a pistol. It actually looks like 4 inches I'm not sure where you would start measuring it. Quite a bit of gas in your face from it but I got used to it. It freaked me out at first.

Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

The AR is a wonderful gun to shoot, full auto and cheap! I like to stretch the range a bit with my old Enfield. 400 yards is still a challenge, my eyes just aren't what they used to be ;)

Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

dyna mo · 08-11-2011, 05:45 PM

choker, you get to walk out your backdoor and unload those eh?

nice purchase.

Pipecrew · 08-11-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?

Choker · 08-11-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

They are all .223 yeah. I'm sure it do lose a lot of velocity. But it's small size and 45 round clip makes it the perfect home defense gun. And yeah no stock just a padded buffer tube.

Oh yeah I picked up one of those cheap 9mm carbines also. Very fun to shoot.

proton · 08-11-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?

The ArmaLite AR-15 is a selective fire assault rifle which was adopted by United States armed forces as the M16 rifle. Due to financial problems, ArmaLite sold the AR-15/M16 design to Colt.

The Colt AR-15 is the semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle, which was introduced by Colt for civilian sales in 1963.[8] The name "AR-15" is a Colt registered trademark, which refers only to the semi-automatic rifle.

The AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56 mm, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed semi-automatic rifle, with a rotating bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas operation. It is manufactured with the extensive use of aluminum alloys and synthetic materials.

Choker · 08-11-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?

No. They have M-16's or AR-15's that have been converted into an M-16. Like the one in the video I posted above.

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.

There are a couple different options for that. The most popular option converts it to use Uzi mags.

V_RocKs · 08-11-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldmaniacs

try not cleaning it thoroughly for a little while and see what happens

Standard issue for most America and European guns...

Dead · 08-11-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

My bad

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

My bad

I'm not sure what to say. It's almost as if you still think you're right.

Dead · 08-11-2011, 07:01 PM

To make this fair, I have never built one, was only told by the maker the gun I was shooting and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've handled guns with hell fire on them but the one I shot was definitely full auto.

Dead · 08-11-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

I'm not sure what to say. It's almost as if you still think you're right.

Hey man, Im not pissin on ya, just posting what I fired and enjoyed! But you seem well versed in your skill! Fun none the less!!!!

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

To make this fair, I have never built one, was only told by the maker the gun I was shooting and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've handled guns with hell fire on them but the one I shot was definitely full auto.

And as the video title states, it's a "conversion" and not a standard AR-15. Physically speaking, any AR-15 can be converted into an M-16 and the lower receiver will still say AR-15, EA-15, T15, etc...

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

Hey man, Im not pissin on ya, just posting what I fired and enjoyed! But you seem well versed in your skill! Fun none the less!!!!

I understand what you are saying and to be perfectly honest, it's all semantics.

escorpio · 08-11-2011, 07:13 PM

What would Jesus shoot?

Dead · 08-11-2011, 07:18 PM

Jebus H Christ, Man I love to pull triggers.....Can we agree that an AR can be Full auto if the the one that makes it so ....makes it so! Fuck,I just wanted to post that I liked the AR MOD I shot, I didn't get all authentic and shit., should have gone to wiki and checked my fun

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

What would Jesus shoot?

Other Mexicans.

AaronM · 08-11-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

Jebus H Christ, Man I love to pull triggers.....Can we agree that an AR can be Full auto if the the one that makes it so ....makes it so! Fuck,I just wanted to post that I liked the AR MOD I shot, I didn't get all authentic and shit., should have gone to wiki and checked my fun

Of course we can agree on that. As long as we agree that the conversion means it's no longer an AR-15.

Hey, even I get it wrong sometimes.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/BushmasterConversion.wmv

L-Pink · 08-11-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Other Mexicans.

That was so bad and I laughed anyway.

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Pipecrew · 08-11-2011, 07:40 PM

Is that your basement? If so, bad ass setup. Would love to do something like that

Dead · 08-11-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Of course we can agree on that. As long as we agree that the conversion means it's no longer an AR-15.

Hey, even I get it wrong sometimes.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/BushmasterConversion.wmv

Agreed. But damn why does it have to be so specific...I like to blow shit up, dont care if it is an AR or a RPG I refuse to read the manual and will never check an ID

Nice work with the 9mod! what do you call that thing? AR...9...15.....

wdsguy · 08-11-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Building 5 new ones right now.

AR-15 in 6.8 (not pictured)
3 AR-15's in 5.56 (two lower receivers in front of the white box and 3rd in the box) Barrels on order from Lilja & Hart
1 AR-10 in .308 (On top of the box) Barrel on order from Lilja

Have you worked with Spikes Tactical lowers?

grumpy · 08-12-2011, 05:00 AM

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

cykoe6 · 08-12-2011, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

Tell that to the shop owners in London.

xNetworx · 08-12-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

I see your from Holland.

See some of us don't live in windmill filled candylands where almost everybody rides bicycles and is jolly.

We live in places where lots of scumbags have guns and will use one to kill.

Come visit the south side of Chicago sometime. Its just like Amsterdam, I swear.

ATF · 08-12-2011, 08:03 AM

Little off the ar-15 topic but i thought id throw this in there for the gun lovers.

my kel-tec sub 2000 40cal with glock grip and a"baby glock" 27 40cal handgun with a few 30 round magz..plus a glock made survival knife

all 30 rnd magz and all factory glock magz fit both guns ..both guns fit in the camelback backpack along with all the magz ,the glock knife and a shit load of ammo..home + SHTF defense at its finest

Sub 2000 Folded :

opusx312 · 08-12-2011, 08:31 AM

If you like ARs go look at spikestactical.com. I am having an 556 and 6.8 built from them very soon. I already have an AK built from them. They don't make them anymore and now they go for about $3k.

AaronM · 08-12-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

Have you worked with Spikes Tactical lowers?

Nope. Should I?

AaronM · 08-12-2011, 08:53 AM

For those who are interested...

Glock has recently built a 100 yard range at their facility in GA. Considering that Glock only makes handguns, it kinda makes you wonder why they need a 100 yard range.

Rumor has it that they are about to enter the AR-15 market.

PornoMonster · 08-12-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.

American Eagle .223 ammo - at our lowest price ever!
http://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?ca...b= browse.cmd

Vendzilla · 08-12-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

I hunt anyone that trys to break in my house

SallyRand · 08-12-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I used to look down on AR-15's, thinking the guys who bought them were pussies who couldn't handle a real gun. Hell my kids outgrew 22's when they were 12. LOL. Nothing like the bang and stopping power of a 7.62 coming out the barrel of a quality made Russian AK. Tough and heavy, like a gun is supposed to be.

But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow. Holy fucking shit what a incredible weapon. Light as a feather, no recoil, and who cares if the rounds have half the power of a AK, hell you can carry 3 times as much ammo with you, and fire much more accurately than with a AK. AR-15 should be called Lego-15. I love the way everything is snap together on these guns. Change a barrel in 30 seconds? Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns.

Hey, Choker, I don't want to see you get into trouble, so you need to very carefully review The National Firarms Act:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/

It is this way; if you build a rifle from an unspecified AR-15 receiver it IS a rifle and will ALWAYS be a rifle under ATF rules. If you put a top on the receiver with a barrel length of LESS than 16" you have constructed a "Short Barrelled Rifle" and comitted at least THREE felony violations under the act; namely:

(1) Construction without an approved Form One. (You ain't done this:

http://www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf ).

(2) Possession of an Unregistered Firearm under The Act; namley. a Short Barrelled Rifle.

(3) Construction of a Fiream under The ACT without payment of the "Making Tax" of $200.00.

Each of these violations are what we call "Five And Tens"; five years and $10,000.00 EACH.

If you build an AR-15 PISTOL from an unspecefied receiver, it is a PISTOL forever and you cannot install a shoulder stock; See: "Short Barrelled Rifle".

It's like this, you can put a long top on a pistol but you cannot put a short top on a non-NFA rifle.

You cannot put a shoulder stock on a pistol.

Be very, very careful about the interernals that you use, as a double-hooked M-16 hammer used by mistake causes the rifle or pistol to be classified as an unregistered machine gun, even though the hammer alone will not cause the rifle or pistol to fire in any kind of full-auto mode.

You cannot put a vertical foregrip on a pistil; See: "Any Other Weapon" under the NFA.

Check out this guide to construction of AR-15 type rifles, it is accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#L...ts_of_an_AR-15

And here:

http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/

No Federal registratioin is required for contruction of Non-NFA rifles and pistols but state or local laws may.

Best wishes for safe and LEGAL construction and shooting!

AaronM · 08-12-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Hey, Choker, I don't want to see you get into trouble, so you need to very carefully review The National Firarms Act:

Why would he need to review any of that?

He bought AR's that were already built and he has said nothing about modifying them in any way that would be an NFA issue. He's already stated that the 6" AR has no stock and is just a buffer tube so that classifies it as a pistol.

Nothing you posted is wrong but none of it concerns Choker either.

escorpio · 08-12-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Other Mexicans.

Jesus was a Jew, silly!

escorpio · 08-12-2011, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

What if some motherfucker at the club be lookin' at you all hard and shit?

SallyRand · 08-12-2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Why would he need to review any of that?

He bought AR's that were already built and he has said nothing about modifying them in any way that would be an NFA issue. He's already stated that the 6" AR has no stock and is just a buffer tube so that classifies it as a pistol.

Nothing you posted is wrong but none of it concerns Choker either.

Choker wrote in the OP:

"Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns."

Here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1033804

Post 1.

Make one tiny mistake and you are FUCKED!

You are a stupid motherfucker and a hater.

Choker even posted a pic of RECEIVERS, which he intended to COMPLETE as firearms!

You are a stupid dickwad!

It is very, very easy to make an unintended mistake with AR-15 type rifles or pistols; the kind of mistake that can land you in fucking PRISON, even if you did not intend to make the mistake, so I thought I'd try to help out Choker in this regard.

Of course I have no REAL knowledge of this sort of thing after having been a TITLE TWO MANUFACTURER FOR SOMETHING LIKE TWENTY FUCKING YEARS!

You can SUCK MY BALLS!

bushwacker · 08-12-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StripperCash

I see your from Holland.

See some of us don't live in windmill filled candylands where almost everybody rides bicycles and is jolly.

We live in places where lots of scumbags have guns and will use one to kill.

Come visit the south side of Chicago sometime. Its just like Amsterdam, I swear.

Well said.

drmadcat · 08-12-2011, 09:36 PM

its too hard to get a gun in perth

08-11-2011, 03:10 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	AR-15 Owners. Now I understand. I used to look down on AR-15's, thinking the guys who bought them were pussies who couldn't handle a real gun. Hell my kids outgrew 22's when they were 12. LOL. Nothing like the bang and stopping power of a 7.62 coming out the barrel of a quality made Russian AK. Tough and heavy, like a gun is supposed to be. But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow. Holy fucking shit what a incredible weapon. Light as a feather, no recoil, and who cares if the rounds have half the power of a AK, hell you can carry 3 times as much ammo with you, and fire much more accurately than with a AK. AR-15 should be called Lego-15. I love the way everything is snap together on these guns. Change a barrel in 30 seconds? Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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proton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 172	thinking about getting one

08-11-2011, 05:36 PM	#10
Dead They left the door open Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,450	The AR is a wonderful gun to shoot, full auto and cheap! I like to stretch the range a bit with my old Enfield. 400 yards is still a challenge, my eyes just aren't what they used to be ;)

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,910	choker, you get to walk out your backdoor and unload those eh? nice purchase.

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Dead They left the door open Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,450	To make this fair, I have never built one, was only told by the maker the gun I was shooting and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've handled guns with hell fire on them but the one I shot was definitely full auto.

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Dead They left the door open Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,450	Jebus H Christ, Man I love to pull triggers.....Can we agree that an AR can be Full auto if the the one that makes it so ....makes it so! Fuck,I just wanted to post that I liked the AR MOD I shot, I didn't get all authentic and shit., should have gone to wiki and checked my fun

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Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,885	Is that your basement? If so, bad ass setup. Would love to do something like that

08-12-2011, 08:03 AM	#38
ATF So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 49	Little off the ar-15 topic but i thought id throw this in there for the gun lovers. my kel-tec sub 2000 40cal with glock grip and a"baby glock" 27 40cal handgun with a few 30 round magz..plus a glock made survival knife all 30 rnd magz and all factory glock magz fit both guns ..both guns fit in the camelback backpack along with all the magz ,the glock knife and a shit load of ammo..home + SHTF defense at its finest Sub 2000 Folded : Last edited by ATF; 08-12-2011 at 08:08 AM..

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	For those who are interested... Glock has recently built a 100 yard range at their facility in GA. Considering that Glock only makes handguns, it kinda makes you wonder why they need a 100 yard range. Rumor has it that they are about to enter the AR-15 market.

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