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Emma · 08-15-2011, 02:21 AM

It's really sad

DWB · 08-15-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Embalming fluid? Wouldn't that be too expensive? Here in the Philippines, traders would just sell chickens that died during the growout stages at a massive discount. called "double dead" meat. Big business apparently because the meat is 50 to 75 percent cheaper. People wouldn't know the difference specially if the meat is used for sausages or ground up or used in soup. Anyone know if you can suffer any long term health issues from eating double dead meat?

No idea of the cost but that is what they say they are using. Probably some bootleg version of it at best.

That's horrible about "double dead." Learn something new everyday.

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Eating dog is like eating a horse or a donkey... a complete waste of resources. You can argue cuteness and cruelty to pigs, cows and chickens until your blue in the face, the reality is those animals serve as one purpose and one purpose only, for eating, they wouldn't have survived on their own, and what we have bred them into they would never survive on their own so there is no argument.

Yet dogs have been domesticated by us for 1000's of years aiding us with farming in times were farm hands were non existent due to disease or war. It would take a man 9 or 10 years to wait for his son to be old enough to work on the fields or to help to keep the live stock or produce safe, with dogs it would only take a few months. If it wasn't farming they were helping us with it was hunting.

China as well as much of Asia, disagrees with you.

They have been eating dogs on this side of the world longer than white people have probably been on the planet.

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Yes I saw the report on fishing on the BBC a few months ago and you say its back to business? The report was shocking. The same shrimp we buy at English supermarkets.

Apparently. They keep busting new places doing this every other week. Seems to be it is a common practice here.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

It's really sad

it is to kill any animal. but once it hits the fire your nose kicks in.

(not dogs for me)

Hermes · 08-15-2011, 04:52 AM

What's up with people missing the point? The main issue here is not wheter they're dogs or other animals.

Maybe there should be more posts like this about cows, pigs and chickens too. Just because people may be ignorant, doesn't mean we should not care AT ALL. There are different ways to make a steak and if people would know exactly how they got theirs, many would probably make different choices.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

What's up with people missing the point? The main issue here is not wheter they're dogs or other animals.

Maybe there should be more posts like this about cows, pigs and chickens too. Just because people may be ignorant, doesn't mean we should not care AT ALL. There are different ways to make a steak and if people would know exactly how they got theirs, many would probably make different choices.

what is your point? what am i missing? some people put dogs in there with any other animal and that's hard for some to accept.

Hermes · 08-15-2011, 05:50 AM

Ok the point is, even if it's pigs or chicken, they shouldn't be treated as the dogs were in this case(if you actually read the case), and I'm pretty sure it would be against some laws and regulations. I'm not saying that the meat in usual hamburger was treated very "humanly" but there's still some laws about it, and probably could be better ones still.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

Ok the point is, even if it's pigs or chicken, they shouldn't be treated as the dogs were in this case(if you actually read the case), and I'm pretty sure it would be against some laws and regulations. I'm not saying that the meat in usual hamburger was treated very "humanly" but there's still some laws about it, and probably could be better ones still.

their going to slaughter how should they be treated? the cages bigger??

plember · 08-15-2011, 06:02 AM

poor dogs

Hermes · 08-15-2011, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

their going to slaughter how should they be treated? the cages bigger??

As I said there are(and should be) laws about how animals should be treated, even if they're going to slaughter.

The Heron · 08-15-2011, 06:28 AM

Those dogs weren't taken to a 'government facility' haha they are back on the streets roaming around looking dirty and waiting to bite your ass. Damn dog trafficers were doing thailand a service catching all the fucking strays!

DamianJ · 08-15-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

Ok the point is, even if it's pigs or chicken, they shouldn't be treated as the dogs were in this case(if you actually read the case), and I'm pretty sure it would be against some laws and regulations. I'm not saying that the meat in usual hamburger was treated very "humanly" but there's still some laws about it, and probably could be better ones still.

Have you not heard of battery chickens?

Yum yum KFC

Not only legal, encouraged and subsidised!

Go watch Food Inc.

LRS · 08-15-2011, 06:37 AM

very sad to see this stuff

Caligari · 08-15-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

their going to slaughter how should they be treated? the cages bigger??

Here's the thing. People eat meat and that's not going to change.
The idea of humane treatment of animals prior to slaughter (and during the slaughtering process) has made great headway in several countries because humans have evolved to the point of having empathy towards other animals on the planet, and laws have been made to make those who don't give a shit adhere to standards of humane treatment.

Imagine living in fear inside a small box your entire life, not being able to move and never seeing the sun. Then you die.

If you can imagine that then you will see a reason for humane laws.

Still a long way to go but its getting there.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

Here's the thing. People eat meat and that's not going to change.
The idea of humane treatment of animals prior to slaughter (and during the slaughtering process) has made great headway in several countries because humans have evolved to the point of having empathy towards other animals on the planet, and laws have been made to make those who don't give a shit adhere to standards of humane treatment.

Imagine living in fear inside a small box your entire life, not being able to move and never seeing the sun. Then you die.

If you can imagine that then you will see a reason for humane laws.

Still a long way to go but its getting there.

so basically like death row less the eating of the body afterwards.

Caligari · 08-15-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

so basically like death row less the eating of the body afterwards.

similar, but they have committed no crime.

The Duck · 08-15-2011, 08:07 AM

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duck

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

ok

_Richard_ · 08-15-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil

JamesGw · 08-15-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

oh great, instead of feeding humans these dogs will be costing humans money up until they are killed because no one can take care of them

great idea

dog = animal
cow, pig, rabbit, chicken = animal

This.

I'm not for eating dogs, but I'm guessing that 90+% of those dogs are going to end up being killed anyway.

media · 08-15-2011, 09:45 AM

Sad but true.. Most of us here eat meat and that is what happens in order to get the meat.. You gotta kill the "animal" to get the meat.. I love meat.. dunno if I'd eat dog, but I understand how some people do.. its their culture.. Our culture is to eat cows, goats, lamb, pig, chicken, duck, goose, turkey, fish, etc.. lots of animals are killed by us to eat..

I remember being about 6-7 years old going to a slaughter house for the first time.. They had guys slamming pigs over the head with sledgehammers, and I remember looking up on the wall and they had a shotgun to humanely take the animal out in case they missed the brain.. I remember walking outta there with my jaw on the floor.. But I don't have any delusions about what I eat any more since then..

MetaMan · 08-15-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

As I said there are(and should be) laws about how animals should be treated, even if they're going to slaughter.

Ok and what exactly should these laws be? you just make a stupid blanket statement that offers 0 solution.

Ill be you for 2 seconds:
"I want world peace"

ok i did my part now. im guessing world peace will happen within the next few minutes.

some of you people are so dam dense i wonder if it was just your parents or your entire support system that lied to you growing up. how else can you be so clueless?

Grapesoda · 08-15-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by twistyneck

I don't see a problem with eating dogs as long as it is done as humanely as possible.

yeah how about the 1000's of children sent there to get fucked? a bit more of an issue for me than some dogs getting BBQ'ed

Grapesoda · 08-15-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

As I said there are(and should be) laws about how animals should be treated, even if they're going to slaughter.

there is: kosher

Robbie · 08-15-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Thailand still has areas eating dog, it's just hush hush.

I also don't have a problem with people eating dog (or any animal), so long as they are put down humanely.

If this dog story bothers you, ponder how many children and women were trafficked on the same day and didn't get caught. And knowing Thailand, the ONLY reason they caught the dog traffickers is because someone didn't get greased.

That's what I was thinking. Many countries eat dog. And knowing Thailand..those cops probably took those dogs and then sold them themselves to a meat packing plant.

Caligari · 08-15-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duck

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

you're missing the point. it is not cruel to eat meat because the animal is already dead.
its the treatment of the animal prior to and during slaughter which is the point, and of which has improved in various countries thru law.

for example, an upcoming potentially HUGE change to the egg industry-
http://ecokvetch.blogspot.com/2011/0...for-votes.html

there are dozens in existence and many lined up for the next few years.

The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) humanesociety.org and a few other organizations are the major proponents.

Caligari · 08-15-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

there is: kosher

absolutely one of the best ways even though people here will somehow call it "ancient and barbaric"
judaism in regard to animals has to be one of the most progressive-
http://www.jewfaq.org/animals.htm

Odie · 08-15-2011, 10:34 AM

I once had a dog in Thailand...it ran away and never came back...I'm certain someone turned it into dinner..

Hermes · 08-15-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duck

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Ok and what exactly should these laws be? you just make a stupid blanket statement that offers 0 solution.

There already are laws about how to treat animals, are you saying there should not be any? I don't have a definite solution but it surely is a step to better direction if people get some real info and actually start to think about this stuff, instead of the BS "who cares" attitude.

But no point trying to argue with (trolling) idiots who don't understand the difference between killing for food and torture...

ajrocks · 08-15-2011, 02:27 PM

people that eat dogs suck cock! They might eat cock as well.

brassmonkey · 08-15-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

That's what I was thinking. Many countries eat dog. And knowing Thailand..those cops probably took those dogs and then sold them themselves to a meat packing plant.

maybe their going to eat them.

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