The Cherokee tribe has revoked the citizenship of all Black People

[blackmonsters]

I guess I will never look at one of those jeep things the same.
They build them right?

Oh wait, that's wrong, they don't build shit that produces income outside of a casino.

Can't make a hit song; can't slam dunk for the championship, can't score a TD,
can't bring home the gold in the Olympics and can't be president either.
But somehow niggaz have a problem and they don't.


Look at the math : 2800 Blacks divided by 300,000 Cherokee = 0.009333% of population.
I guess they are "draining" the system.

Stupid MoFo's should build a outdoor concert hall and let Jay-z do a concert
ONE weekend that will overshadow their entire Gross National Product.

http://news.yahoo.com/cherokees-expe...221550348.html

TULSA, Okla. (AP) ? One of the nation's largest American Indian tribes has sent letters to about 2,800 descendants of slaves once owned by its members, revoking their citizenship and cutting their medical care, food stipends, low-income homeowners' assistance and other services.

The Cherokee Nation acted this week after its Supreme Court upheld the results of a 2007 special vote to amend the Cherokee constitution and remove the slaves' descendants and other non-Indians from tribal rolls. The 300,000-member tribe is the biggest in Oklahoma, although many of its members live elsewhere.

Olive Anderson, 70, of Kansas City, Mo., called the letter she received "a slap in the face."

"It tears me up to think they can attack my ancestors," Anderson said.

The tribe never owned black slaves, but some individual members did. They were freed after the Civil War, in which the tribe allied with the Confederacy. An 1866 treaty between the tribe and the federal government gave the freedmen and their descendants "all the rights of native Cherokees."

But more than 76 percent of Cherokee voters approved the amendment stripping the descendants of their citizenship. Tribal leaders who backed the amendment, including then-Principal Chief Chad Smith, said the vote was about the fundamental right of every government to determine its citizens, not about racial exclusion.

The freedmen's descendants disagree.

"It's a red man, black man issue just like it's a white man, black man issue," said Raymond Nash, 64, of Nowata. "It's embarrassing, really. It should have been over a long time ago."

Along with losing services, Nash and other descendants of freedmen won't be able to vote in the hotly contested Sept. 24 election for principal chief that pits Smith against longtime tribal councilman Bill John Baker. The election is being held after the tribe's Supreme Court tossed out the results of a June election, saying it could not determine with a mathematical certainty who won. The results had flip-flopped between the two during weeks of counts and recounts. Baker had twice been declared winner, but so had Smith.

"This definitely is a setback for our freedmen people because we were all eager to vote in the upcoming election," said Marilyn Vann, president of the Descendants of Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes. "The attitude is more like, 'We can't put them in chains, so we'll do anything we can to take away their rights.' It's a matter of racism and politics."

Smith has supported the results of the 2007 voter-approved amendment.

"I've consistently supported the Cherokee Nation's right to determine their own national identity," he said Friday. "Cherokees say this: We don't care what you look like, as long as you've got Cherokee blood. It's about identity and self-governance."

Baker hasn't explicitly said he supports the amendment and the expulsion of the freedmen, but he issued a statement saying, "I respect the decision of the Cherokee people and believe fully in our right to self-govern."

After Cherokee Supreme Court upheld the 2007 vote on Aug. 22, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development temporarily froze $33 million in funds while it studies the issue. Federal lawmakers who believe the amendment violated the freedmen's civil rights had lobbied federal agencies to cut funding to the tribe.

Joe Crittenden, who is serving as acting principal chief until the new election is held, said the tribe, which has a $600 million budget, has enough money to carry it for "a few months" without cutting HUD-related services or jobs.

Crittenden said Cherokee leaders have been having weekly conversations with the local and regional HUD offices.

"We are confident that future federal funding will continue once the issues are resolved," he said.

HUD referred questions to its local office, which did not respond to messages left by The Associated Press.

[DBS.US]

If the White man breaks a treaty whey can't they?

[L-Pink]

Fucking Indians send them all back to ...... oh wait, never mind.

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[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

If the White man breaks a treaty whey can't they?

Maybe they should fight the White man then since niggaz didn't sign shit with either
of them.

[porno jew]

sucks to be a hahahahahaha doesn't it?

[blackmonsters]

Lazy ass loser tribe bought some niggaz but can't afford the maintenance fees.

[blackmonsters]

LOL @ dumb motherfuckers who don't know how to get around banned words.

[porno jew]

lol at the dumb hahahahahahas who can't see the joke.

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Fucking Indians send them all back to ...... oh wait, never mind.

.

send them injuns to me i know how to deal with em

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

send them injuns to me i know how to deal with em

Didn't they chase you to an island somewhere?

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[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by porno jew

lol at the dumb hahahahahahas who can't see the joke.

Go climb back into the oven and finish cooking.

[suesheboy]

My understanding is that this is the western band only, the eastern bank here is not talking about it.



Yes the freeman are not happy!

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

My understanding is that this is the western band only, the eastern bank here is not talking about it.



Yes the freeman are not happy!

It's so few of them(Blacks) this affects; and this is what is so nasty about it.

Their society is not going to change for the better because of this, it's just an act
of hatred.

I mean, they have close to 300,000 Reds sucking resources but 2800 Blacks is somehow
killing them. That's a sick joke.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Fucking Indians send them all back to ...... oh wait, never mind.

.

sharp

[beerptrol]

I guess they'll have to go from the Cherokee tit to the government tit cutting out the middle man

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

I guess they'll have to go from the Cherokee tit to the government tit cutting out the middle man

Tomorrow you'll be asking a nigga for a loan.

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's so few of them(Blacks) this affects; and this is what is so nasty about it.

Their society is not going to change for the better because of this, it's just an act
of hatred.

I mean, they have close to 300,000 Reds sucking resources but 2800 Blacks is somehow
killing them. That's a sick joke.

I have friends who are tribe members here in the east. There is a lot of anti racial tension still between white and red and within the clans let alone between the western tribe and the eastern tribe. This is just sick and angers me. A bad political move that Chief Hicks better not stand behind.

[papill0n]

all shook up about your identity ? hate who you are?

dont worry you can come to gfy and use big boy words like n1gga and get all the attention you need

[brassmonkey]

send them muther fuckers some fried bread

[My Pimp]

This is not very nice .

[Captain Kawaii]

I wonder if the Seminoles will make a similar move. Probably not. The Oklahoma Cherokee got warped on that long trail. I dont think they get any respect from the eastern band.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Didn't they chase you to an island somewhere?

.

Just remember black people are NEVER racist. Damn abos...

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by papill0n

all shook up about your identity ? hate who you are?

dont worry you can come to gfy and use big boy words like n1gga and get all the attention you need

All racist as fuck, need somebody to fuck with, then come to GFY and defend one the nastiest
things in the world that could be done to a citizen by attacking the OP with insults.

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Go climb back into the oven and finish cooking.

DAMN!

[iSpyCams]

Tribal downsizing, it's nothing personal.

[raymor]

This has been portrayed in a misleading way. I right know that I age with it, but the amendment did NOT remove all blacks from the tribe.
Their amendment says that in order to be Cherokee, you must have Cherokee ancestors. It's not about blacks, it's about Cherokee or not. If your great-grandparents were Cherokee and African, fine. If none of your great-grandparents were Cherokee, you're not Cherokee.

[twistyneck]

I can't say that I blame them. They probably grew tired of all the shuckin' and jivin.'

[DWB]

Originally Posted by raymor

This has been portrayed in a misleading way. I right know that I age with it, but the amendment did NOT remove all blacks from the tribe.
Their amendment says that in order to be Cherokee, you must have Cherokee ancestors. It's not about blacks, it's about Cherokee or not. If your great-grandparents were Cherokee and African, fine. If none of your great-grandparents were Cherokee, you're not Cherokee.

+1

[livexxx]

Weren't they both in the Village People?

[suesheboy]

They go by what your ancestors looked like in the 1800s not your DNA.

[shimmy2]

[Redrob]

Follow the money.......

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by pornopete

It's bullshit. But I have to ask, what would happen if an Indian family lived in black harlem?

Probably the same thing that happened to Bill Clinton when he put his office in Harlem.



But we'd have to guess wouldn't we. But we do know what happened to Native
Americans living in Harlem when white Europeans arrived.
We don't have to guess about that one.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by raymor

This has been portrayed in a misleading way. I right know that I age with it, but the amendment did NOT remove all blacks from the tribe.
Their amendment says that in order to be Cherokee, you must have Cherokee ancestors. It's not about blacks, it's about Cherokee or not. If your great-grandparents were Cherokee and African, fine. If none of your great-grandparents were Cherokee, you're not Cherokee.

That's called a "Grandfather Clause".


Wiki is your friend :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

The term originated in late-19th-century legislation and constitutional amendments passed by a number of U.S. Southern states, which created new literacy and property restrictions on voting, but exempted those whose ancestors (grandfathers) had the right to vote before the Civil War. The intent and effect of such rules was to prevent poor and illiterate African American former slaves and their descendants from voting, but without denying poor and illiterate whites the right to vote.

You're cranial bones are fucking thicker than Shane Diesel's cock.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by DWB

+1

Please see above post.

[raymor]

My post got mangled. It was supposed to say:
I don't know that I agree with their decision, but the headline is false. Black Cherokee are still welcome. What changed is that you can no longer join the tribe. Now, to be Cherokee you have to have Cherokee blood.

It just so happens that some of the people who want to be Cherokee but aren't Cherokee are black.

* "Aren't Cherokee" meaning there's no proof of Cherokee heritage.

Again, I'm not saying I agree with them. If I did did say they were wrong, I would say they were wrong to reject people not of Cherokee heritage. White people can't join either, nor any other race than Cherokee.

[slavdogg]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=00Aju...eature=related
John Stossel's report on american indians

[ilnjscb]

Ok I just have to ask, is everyone here with black dude avatars black? I'm getting confused. You can bet they wouldn't have pulled this when Wilma Mankiller was chief. PS, what did happen to Bill C when he went to Harlem? For the last year of his presidency, all he had was elderly black ladies around him (not that it did him any good).

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

send them injuns to me i know how to deal with em

Good shit...

[Lace]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

Kill whitey!

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by pornopete

It's bullshit. But I have to ask, what would happen if an Indian family lived in black harlem?

black harlem? in 2011?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by raymor

My post got mangled. It was supposed to say:
I don't know that I agree with their decision, but the headline is false. Black Cherokee are still welcome. What changed is that you can no longer join the tribe. Now, to be Cherokee you have to have Cherokee blood.

It just so happens that some of the people who want to be Cherokee but aren't Cherokee are black.

* "Aren't Cherokee" meaning there's no proof of Cherokee heritage.

Again, I'm not saying I agree with them. If I did did say they were wrong, I would say they were wrong to reject people not of Cherokee heritage. White people can't join either, nor any other race than Cherokee.

Cherokees didn't buy any white people....End of that bullshit argument.


You need to quit running circles and face the fact that these Blacks became
Cherokee when they were "adopted" by that tribe.

If you bought it, then it's fucking yours.

They bought some fucking people and they need to live up to that.


What they are doing is no different than if the US Federal government revoked
the citizenship of all blacks who descended from slaves that didn't have a white ancestor.

Those slaves were taken out of the Non-Native government by the tribe and the
tribe has all the obligations that all other governments have on taking such people.

The blacks were taken by force, they didn't ask to be removed from non-native
land where they would have US citizenship.

If they hate niggas then that's just too fucking bad. They could have left those
people where they were to begin with.

And furthermore, if a exact DNA sequence were defined as being Cherokee then
I'm damn sure that many of the Reds DNA will not be found to be Cherokee either.
The entire notion of a "pure Cherokee" is totally ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Nation

According to Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) head Larry EchoHawk, the Cherokee Nation is not the historical Cherokee tribe but instead a "successor in interest."[2]

We are willing to bomb the shit out of Libya to liberate people so maybe it's time
to raid these fucking tribes and put an end to this racist shit and make this
entire land whole with equal protection for all citizens.

Deciding citizenship based on race is a Hitler idea that has seen it's time in history.

[Alky]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Cherokees didn't buy any white people....End of that bullshit argument.


You need to quit running circles and face the fact that these Blacks became
Cherokee when they were "adopted" by that tribe.

If you bought it, then it's fucking yours.

They bought some fucking people and they need to live up to that.


What they are doing is no different than if the US Federal government revoked
the citizenship of all blacks who descended from slaves that didn't have a white ancestor.

Those slaves were taken out of the Non-Native government by the tribe and the
tribe has all the obligations that all other governments have on taking such people.

The blacks were taken by force, they didn't ask to be removed from non-native
land where they would have US citizenship.

If they hate niggas then that's just too fucking bad. They could have left those
people where they were to begin with.

And furthermore, if a exact DNA sequence were defined as being Cherokee then
I'm damn sure that many of the Reds DNA will not be found to be Cherokee either.
The entire notion of a "pure Cherokee" is totally ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Nation



We are willing to bomb the shit out of Libya to liberate people so maybe it's time
to raid these fucking tribes and put an end to this racist shit and make this
entire land whole with equal protection for all citizens.

Deciding citizenship based on race is a Hitler idea that has seen it's time in history.

the people they "bought" are still alive?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Alky

the people they "bought" are still alive?

News flash, if you adopt a human and the human has a baby then you are legally
related to that child as the grandfather.

They "adopted" thru the process of buying.

WTF?

How much did you drink before you typed that shit in?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Oh wait, that's wrong, they don't build shit that produces income outside of a casino.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

can't bring home the gold in the Olympics

Um.............. Jim Thorpe. Probably the greatest US Olympian of all time.

Anyways just to clarify for the confused, they are not kicking out blacks that are in fact part Cherokee. Back in the day there were a few Indians that owned slaves. When they got kicked out of Tennesse on the trail of tears march those Indian slave owners were allowed to take their slaves with them. Until know the decendants of these slaves were considered part of the tribe even though they never had any actual indian blood in them.

[BIGTYMER]

They are all fat and lazy anyway. They can't even run a casino properly.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by GatorB

WTF is that supposed to mean?



Um.............. Jim Thorpe. Probably the greatest US Olympian of all time.

Anyways just to clarify for the confused, they are not kicking out blacks that are in fact part Cherokee. Back in the day there were a few Indians that owned slaves. When they got kicked out of Tennesse on the trail of tears march those Indian slave owners were allowed to take their slaves with them. Until know the decendants of these slaves were considered part of the tribe even though they never had any actual indian blood in them.

It means exactly WTF it says.

Jim Thorpe cheated by doing the Olympics after being a professional and got all
his medals taken away. (he got them back after his death )

And he wasn't a Cherokee either.
This thread is about Cherokees if you ever bother to read it.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It means exactly WTF it says.

fuck you

Jim Thorpe cheated by doing the Olympics after being a professional and got all
his medals taken away. (he got them back after his death )

So none the NBA players in the Olympics are pros?

And he wasn't a Cherokee either.
This thread is about Cherokees if you ever bother to read it.

You comments were direct at indians in general not just Cherokees. So quit dodging. And I can comment on ANY Native American topic I want. More so than you.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by GatorB

fuck you



So none the NBA players in the Olympics are pros?



You comments were direct at indians in general not just Cherokees. So quit dodging. And I can comment on ANY Native American topic I want. More so than you.

STFU idiot.

The Olympics changed the amateur rules and that's the only reason they gave
Thorpe the medals back so you wouldn't be able to make this argument.

The thread title clearly says Cherokees; I'm sorry that my description of Cherokees
sounded so familiar to you that you assumed it meant all natives.

[blackmonsters]

50 racist tribes that should be boycotted and starved to death.