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bronco67 · 09-18-2011, 08:50 PM

I think the deaths mean "directly medically related".

Alcohol has surely killed people by being abused. Ever hear of alcohol poisoning?

No one has ever died because of weed overdose.

ThunderBalls · 09-18-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Sorry, did too much pot in my life.
I thought you were him

Maybe stupid people were already stupid before they started smoking and they are using weed as a scapegoat.

papill0n · 09-18-2011, 09:19 PM

yeah warchild is right, hopefully the main thing the op was trying to emphasis was that are plenty more harmful things than pot

ThunderBalls · 09-18-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's not for the USA, it's for France but it at least gives some actual numbers based on real measurments.

Of course people stoned driving cars cause fatalities, that's a no brainer.

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A 2005 study by French researchers Bernard Laumon and colleagues suggests driving while under the influence of marijuana, or cannabis, contributes to fatal car crashes. Researchers compiled data given by French police after administering blood and urine tests confirming the presence of marijuana in the systems of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal car accidents. The study found that driver usage of cannabis resulted in 2.5 percent of the fatalities.

And lets examine that. Their conclusion was that cannabis use resulted in 2.5% of fatalities because thc was found in the sytems of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal crashes. That conclusion is inherently flawed for obvious reasons, the biggest being that marijuana will stay in someones system for weeks after use. This has been a huge debate here in Colorado as lawmakers are continually attempting to put on the books a legal limit for marijuana and driving, as there is for alcohol, but every time they do evidence is presented that shows how much does stay in your system when a person is actually sober and the bill gets killed. http://blogs.westword.com/latestword...ood_te st.php

I am not advocating smoking and driving, nor do I think it makes one a better driver like frank has implied. But it does not effect ones motor skills like other substances and in no way should be compared to alcohol when it comes to driving or anything else for that matter.

NetHorse · 09-18-2011, 10:21 PM

Oh god, not another one of these childish threads. Hey, if you want to smoke pot all day, go ahead and do it. No need to spread propaganda to make yourself feel better about inhaling smoke with tar and carbon monoxide.

Next time you clean out your bowl take a long look at all the black resign building up in there. Yeah, only half of it ends up in the bowl, take a guess where the other half accumulates.

When someone dies of lung cancer who's been smoking weed for 10 years, no doctor correlates the source to specifically smoking marijuana. Inhaling marijuana in-general deteriorates your health in many aspects, but no doctor is going to say his official death was from smoking weed. When someone inhales carbon monoxide for 10 years and dies of a heart attack, again, no one correlates it to weed although it could have been the primary cause. Therefore there could 100s of thousands of deaths from Marijuana, just not Marijuana overdoses which is virtually impossible.

Don't let hearsay cloud your judgment. I had a grandparent who smoked cigarettes and drank everyday of his life and lived to be 81. That doesn't mean you will.

Marijuana is definitely safer than a lot of drugs out there, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly harmless, or safer than fucking peanuts. I mean seriously...

The Porn Nerd · 09-18-2011, 10:41 PM

Sure, there are pot-RELATED deaths, just like being killed while drunk is a drinking-RELATED death. Scirrosis of the liver would be a death CAUSED BY drinking. So is the car accident "caused" by drinking? Yes and no, depends on what point of view you are looking at this from.

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Chosen · 09-19-2011, 03:01 AM

Okay, thanks or the info

TarPy · 09-19-2011, 03:41 AM

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CurrentlySober · 09-19-2011, 03:58 AM

i cant afford merry-joanna...

Badmaash · 09-19-2011, 06:46 AM

i love marijuana too!

BlackCrayon · 09-19-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

Oh god, not another one of these childish threads. Hey, if you want to smoke pot all day, go ahead and do it. No need to spread propaganda to make yourself feel better about inhaling smoke with tar and carbon monoxide.

Next time you clean out your bowl take a long look at all the black resign building up in there. Yeah, only half of it ends up in the bowl, take a guess where the other half accumulates.

When someone dies of lung cancer who's been smoking weed for 10 years, no doctor correlates the source to specifically smoking marijuana. Inhaling marijuana in-general deteriorates your health in many aspects, but no doctor is going to say his official death was from smoking weed. When someone inhales carbon monoxide for 10 years and dies of a heart attack, again, no one correlates it to weed although it could have been the primary cause. Therefore there could 100s of thousands of deaths from Marijuana, just not Marijuana overdoses which is virtually impossible.

Don't let hearsay cloud your judgment. I had a grandparent who smoked cigarettes and drank everyday of his life and lived to be 81. That doesn't mean you will.

Marijuana is definitely safer than a lot of drugs out there, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly harmless, or safer than fucking peanuts. I mean seriously...

yeah, that poster is just plain stupid. only peanuts are harmful if you are allergic. i'd imagine if you are allergic to thc, marijuana could be just as bad.

i know a lot of people have been smoking weed for 10 years or more, easily and no one has lung cancer yet. not to say they never will as many of them are smokers as well but just consider the amount of marijuana smoked compared to cigarettes. 3 bongtokes (water filtered) is all it takes to get high. compare that to say 50 puffs from 1 cigarette, though most people don't just smoke one cigarette but on average 8-10 per day, if not more. also you are smoking a lot of bleached paper with the cigarettes. of course inhaling any smoke isn't good for you but the sheer difference in usage between cigarettes and marijuana makes it very hard to compare.

Grapesoda · 09-19-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Driving while high may not be as bad as once thought. A study conducted by Hartford Hospital and the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine found that smoking marijuana has little effect on driving skills.

The study was published in the March issue of the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, according to an article in The Hartford Courant.

Using legal marijuana supplied by the National Institute of Drug Abuse and the University of Mississippi, researchers tested 85 participants under the influence on their ability to avoid crash-causing traffic incidents, such as avoiding a driver entering an intersection illegally or deciding to stop or go through a changing traffic light.

Researchers found no significant difference between the control group given placebo cigarettes and the group given marijuana cigarettes. However, the study did find that the drivers given marijuana were more easily distracted when under the influence.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...#ixzz1YMNEQkRr

gotta holler bullshit on this one.... models that smoke weed are so fucked up they can't even focus on the camera...

BlackCrayon · 09-19-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

gotta holler bullshit on this one.... models that smoke weed are so fucked up they can't even focus on the camera...

could be its not the only thing they are on but yes driving while high is very stupid. not as dangerous as drunk driving but still dangerous.

bronco67 · 09-19-2011, 07:32 AM

Fuck smoking it...I prefer some nice pot cupcakes. Better delivery system anyway.

PR_Glen · 09-19-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I don't give a shit if you smoke weed or not but the obsession with this "miracle drug" some people have is just retarded. Just smoke your weed and stfu. Stop preaching. It's drugs and it makes you stupid.

fuckin right...

_Richard_ · 09-19-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's not for the USA, it's for France but it at least gives some actual numbers based on real measurments.

Of course people stoned driving cars cause fatalities, that's a no brainer.

weed stays in the system for 30 days

it's a no brainer that the study is a bit flawed, no?

WarChild · 09-19-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

weed stays in the system for 30 days

it's a no brainer that the study is a bit flawed, no?

Actually as far as I understand it, while not perfect it is not fundamentally flawed either.

While traces of weed can stay in your system that long, the concentration declines rapidly without use. That is to say that somebody who has just smoked a joint in the last couple of hours will have significatly higher concentration levels than somebody that smoked a join two weeks ago.

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Interpretation of Blood Concentrations: It is difficult to establish a relationship between a person's THC blood or plasma concentration and performance impairing effects. Concentrations of parent drug and metabolite are very dependent on pattern of use as well as dose. THC concentrations typically peak during the act of smoking, while peak 11-OH THC concentrations occur approximately 9-23 minutes after the start of smoking. Concentrations of both analytes decline rapidly and are often < 5 ng/mL at 3 hours. Significant THC concentrations (7 to 18 ng/mL) are noted following even a single puff or hit of a marijuana cigarette. Peak plasma THC concentrations ranged from 46-188 ng/mL in 6 subjects after they smoked 8.8 mg THC over 10 minutes. Chronic users can have mean plasma levels of THC-COOH of 45 ng/mL, 12 hours after use; corresponding THC levels are, however, less than 1 ng/mL. Following oral administration, THC concentrations peak at 1-3 hours and are lower than after smoking. Dronabinol and THC-COOH are present in equal concentrations in plasma and concentrations peak at approximately 2-4 hours after dosing.

It is inadvisable to try and predict effects based on blood THC concentrations alone, and currently impossible to predict specific effects based on THC-COOH concentrations. It is possible for a person to be affected by marijuana use with concentrations of THC in their blood below the limit of detection of the method. Mathematical models have been developed to estimate the time of marijuana exposure within a 95% confidence interval. Knowing the elapsed time from marijuana exposure can then be used to predict impairment in concurrent cognitive and psychomotor effects based on data in the published literature.

Joshua G · 09-19-2011, 09:48 AM

2 years back Diane Schuler drove the wrong way on the taconic parkway, causing a crash that killed 8 people. The po-lice claimed, based on blood tests, that she allegedly smoked a joint as recently as 15 minutes before death. She was also drinking vodka.

So what do you blame for her judgement...the alcohol or the pot...she drove drunk for 2 hours, but smoked a joint & 15 minutes later started driving north on a southbound highway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Ta..._Parkway_crash

MrBottomTooth · 09-19-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Sure sure...you know what it actually makes you drive better. It's a miracle drug right. I heard it can cure aids too.

No shit. I haven't touched the stuff in years but I remember smoking some stuff one time and I had a hard time even getting out of my chair for an hour or so. No way I could drive on it safely.

BlackCrayon · 09-19-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls

2 years back Diane Schuler drove the wrong way on the taconic parkway, causing a crash that killed 8 people. The po-lice claimed, based on blood tests, that she allegedly smoked a joint as recently as 15 minutes before death. She was also drinking vodka.

So what do you blame for her judgement...the alcohol or the pot...she drove drunk for 2 hours, but smoked a joint & 15 minutes later started driving north on a southbound highway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Ta..._Parkway_crash

well if you get drunk and then smoke weed, that can mess you up pretty good. as far as pot being in your system, if you aren't drunk or on other drugs, you can smoke a joint and in a couple hours be straight again. it might still show up good in tests but that doesn't mean you are still feeling the effects in any way. it can also effect different people differently. some can't handle it at all. i know some people who just puke if they smoke and some who can smoke and smoke and seemingly have no visible effect.

_Richard_ · 09-19-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Actually as far as I understand it, while not perfect it is not fundamentally flawed either.

While traces of weed can stay in your system that long, the concentration declines rapidly without use. That is to say that somebody who has just smoked a joint in the last couple of hours will have significatly higher concentration levels than somebody that smoked a join two weeks ago.

....aaaand i have discovered i have no interest in a scientific argument.

so, sir, i give consent to tell me to 'go fuck myself', whilst i point out that if the very few cases of drivers being influenced by marijuana enough to lose the paranoia of hitting something and having to deal with cops

it's a good bet that person is in a 'weird and hard to categorize' group anyway

TeenCat · 09-19-2011, 10:07 AM

solokkhz · 09-19-2011, 10:22 AM

Weed is lot safer then alcohol, but it should be moderated by the user. I have friends who smoke weed all day long and it doesn't do them any good. Smoking from time to time is indeed a good way to have fun. wanna link to my growing weed sites? ;)

grumpy · 09-19-2011, 10:46 AM

who gives a shit, just keep smoking

PR_Chi · 09-19-2011, 10:48 AM

wheres the graph that shows peanuts are Safer than Marijuana

TangibleAsset · 09-19-2011, 04:13 PM

Lots of ignorant folks in this thread.

The Porn Nerd · 09-19-2011, 04:19 PM

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Lots of ignorant folks in this thread.

thickcash_amo · 09-19-2011, 04:29 PM

you can argue the good or the bad with this. Either way I have a hard time believing the death rate is 0.

Dirty F · 09-19-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thickcash_amo

you can argue the good or the bad with this. Either way I have a hard time believing the death rate is 0.

Everybody knows this. Even the potsmokers. Everybody but the topicstarter. He's still living in his little weed fantasyworld.

porno jew · 09-19-2011, 05:03 PM

porno jew · 09-19-2011, 05:05 PM

Marijuana use is much more dangerous that believed and hundreds of young people die each year in "accidents" caused by their prolonged use of the drug, according to Britain's most senior coroner.
Hamish Turner, the president of the Coroners' Society, told The Telegraph that the marijuana, often portrayed as harmless, has increasingly been the cause of deaths that have been reported as accidents or suicides.

NetHorse · 09-19-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yeah, that poster is just plain stupid. only peanuts are harmful if you are allergic. i'd imagine if you are allergic to thc, marijuana could be just as bad.

i know a lot of people have been smoking weed for 10 years or more, easily and no one has lung cancer yet. not to say they never will as many of them are smokers as well but just consider the amount of marijuana smoked compared to cigarettes. 3 bongtokes (water filtered) is all it takes to get high. compare that to say 50 puffs from 1 cigarette, though most people don't just smoke one cigarette but on average 8-10 per day, if not more. also you are smoking a lot of bleached paper with the cigarettes. of course inhaling any smoke isn't good for you but the sheer difference in usage between cigarettes and marijuana makes it very hard to compare.

I know plenty of people as well, I used to smoke a lot of weed back in the day too.

It's definitely not remotely as bad as cigarettes, but still, the smoke has all the harmful elements of cigarettes if not more, (tar and carbon monoxide being the worse).

I hate both sides of it, the people who spread propaganda like Marijuana kills and those who spread propaganda that it's perfectly harmless.

There is no recreational drug that doesn't come with a price tag. Getting high is getting high, it's a drug, no matter what you try to tell yourself, or what you compare it to that's more harmful.

PornMD · 09-19-2011, 07:58 PM

Your own fucking source said "However, the study did find that the drivers given marijuana were more easily distracted when under the influence." Gosh, lemme think...more easily distracted...while driving...and Wiki has 2004 worldwide stats estimating 1.2 million people were killed in car accidents. You don't think ONE death out of all of those just MIGHT be someone a little more distracted due to smoking pot?

Give me a break.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 09-19-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8

yeah, you know, there's a solution. don't fucking do that. be a man and don't smoke before driving. nut up and say no thanks man I gotta drive.

I TOTALLY AGREE!

RyuLion · 09-19-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Somehow i have the feeling these stats don't include the 1000 of accidents that happen every year because of people driving while stoned as hell.

Well said.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	I think the deaths mean "directly medically related". Alcohol has surely killed people by being abused. Ever hear of alcohol poisoning? No one has ever died because of weed overdose. __________________

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NetHorse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,526	Oh god, not another one of these childish threads. Hey, if you want to smoke pot all day, go ahead and do it. No need to spread propaganda to make yourself feel better about inhaling smoke with tar and carbon monoxide. Next time you clean out your bowl take a long look at all the black resign building up in there. Yeah, only half of it ends up in the bowl, take a guess where the other half accumulates. When someone dies of lung cancer who's been smoking weed for 10 years, no doctor correlates the source to specifically smoking marijuana. Inhaling marijuana in-general deteriorates your health in many aspects, but no doctor is going to say his official death was from smoking weed. When someone inhales carbon monoxide for 10 years and dies of a heart attack, again, no one correlates it to weed although it could have been the primary cause. Therefore there could 100s of thousands of deaths from Marijuana, just not Marijuana overdoses which is virtually impossible. Don't let hearsay cloud your judgment. I had a grandparent who smoked cigarettes and drank everyday of his life and lived to be 81. That doesn't mean you will. Marijuana is definitely safer than a lot of drugs out there, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly harmless, or safer than fucking peanuts. I mean seriously... __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ICQ # 427013273 Last edited by NetHorse; 09-18-2011 at 10:24 PM..

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	2 years back Diane Schuler drove the wrong way on the taconic parkway, causing a crash that killed 8 people. The po-lice claimed, based on blood tests, that she allegedly smoked a joint as recently as 15 minutes before death. She was also drinking vodka. So what do you blame for her judgement...the alcohol or the pot...she drove drunk for 2 hours, but smoked a joint & 15 minutes later started driving north on a southbound highway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Ta..._Parkway_crash

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