Vjo

Thanks for the luv bigluv. Tough love.

Naah still hasnt arrived. Been 8 full business days but the sponsor is starting to step up their looking. Hopefully they will do a trace on their end. I have asked for one but dont want to be too pushy as it is only 8 days.

They are being cool. They're gonna lmk what they can find out.

I looked into "international wires lost" on G and I'll tell ya, you might want to try Paxum. They do dissapeer from time to time even from places like the UK to Canada.

But I think as long as the sender is willing to look into it they can determine where it went. But the only thing that is certain about intl wires is nothing is really certain.

Thankfully certain people in this biz are helping me hang in there until it comes.

THEN I am gonna work harder. Promise bigluv. I know $1200 shouldnt break me but it did. But I am doing better every month which is all you can ask. I was worse off 4 months back but I was getting paid on time then. Maybe in a year it wont break me if two consecutive periods dont come thru.

Thanks.

Vjo

But when it comes I will report right here. And I will tell you exactly wtf went wrong.

I dont know how the sponsor inputs the batch to the bank but if someone manually copies down the numbers that may be the weak link. It has to be human error.

Only thing else is I put for

Beneficiary Bank Address: St Paul, MN USA

when maybe I should of used

Beneficiary Bank Address: St Paul, Minnesota USA

But that shouldnt matter. Has to be human error on their part. Cant be that difficult to send to the US. They all go through Bank of America New York as the Corresponding Bank so unless they sent it thru Timbuktu first I just dont know.

Might show up next couple days. If not by Wed then we are at 10 business days.

The only other thing (and this may be it) is I did not use a CB because Bremer said it is all automated and not needed as the sending bank will choose the best route or their own route.

And because the sponsor had no place for one on the form so I figured since the sponsor sends to the US all the time they know what is proper. They OK'd the wire info so I fig a CB is not needed. But last time in 2010 I got a wire in 3 days. That time the form was diff and I did use a CB.

So not giving a CB may have hurt.

We will see.

Vjo

$1270.84 orig wire

No sponsor fee. It's a big enuff wire

Over and under.. on this wire that seems to be taking the long way home.

I will receive (over or under) $1100? ($170.84 fees)

I say I will receive less than $1100.
Poss less than $1050.
Prob not less than $1000.

If it goes to $xxx.xx then you know they had me around back hammering me. Could happen.

porno jew

looks like it's lost to me.

lazycash

Damn, that much in fees?

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you do know on gfy outing them magically makes the payment appear most of the time.

lagcam

This is dragging on way too long.

VJo ask the sender to place a trace on the wire and to give you the reference numbers also so your bank can look same time. Whilst they could make up a tracing number, it would be a temporary delay only as your bank could soon call them on it.

This will get things moving. In addition to reference number, ask sponsor to confirm also amount sent, exact date sent, beneficiary details including any correspondent banks and name of sender account, sender bank name and country and give this to your bank.

Good luck

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Vjo

Yeah it dont look real good.

Yeah last one in 2010 was for $750 ($705 after sponsor took $45) I got $539 so that is 24% not counting the sponsor. I kid you not.

I dont think it would work. But they are starting to look. I think they are honest.

Thanks that is a lot more good detail for my next reply to the ticket. I did ask them to start a trace and also give me the wire number (as my bank said to do) so i could start on this end.

Someone said they move slow in Cyprus. Seems they do. But I was told it would be forwarded on to the billing dept today which was a big leap actually.

They celebrated Cyprus independence day on Oct 1 but that was a Sat. But being forwarded onto billing today with assurance of escalation and "they will figure it out" made me feel a lot better. I assured them I was not lying. That is about as far as I have got. Noone has grabbed the bull by the horn. Think they wanted to give it a little more time. Like I say 8 biz days now. But they are starting to pick it up a bit now.

They pay out I estimate about $200k a period so no reason to f me out of 1k and they always paid up till now. So I think they are honest and did start the process of finding out what happened.

Thanks I really appreciate it and I am copying your post for ref.

porno jew

who is that adult webmaster empire? their payments are sent out approx 7th and 22nd of every month.

BIGTYMER

Wow! I bet they didn't send it. It doesnt take 8 days for a wire.

Vjo

"name of sender account, sender bank name and country"

This is what I really need but I am holding off a couple more days and see how it goes. Surely it happens and they know how to trace wires I figure so I dont want to be too pushy.

I have rebills and if I pissed em off.. well you know, dont want to piss em off. Prob wont but I am very careful not too sound pushy. But then they should be able to find out if it went to my bank and even call my bank to see if I am lying.

So it is all very much a pain but they are working on it more heavily now so that is good.

Vjo

Yeah it makes me wonder. But they do a batch with prob 25 guys who get wires at least so why not send mine. So that is why it doesnt make sense to not send mine.

No not awe Since you guys have been helpful and supportive and only a few are reading this thread I gave ya the name above.

You know them. Russian avs. Actually run by Greeks or Turks but mostly Russians use it. Headquartered in Cyprus. Honest payer. Never hear a bad thing about them.

But it is a diff culture. One head dude runs it. And he told me to "just wait" once. So I dont want to piss him off altho he seems nice. But things move slower down there.

They dont understand "American chit chat". Very much men of few words.

He has guys under him who answer tickets and they are trying to get me more help. The main man tho seems to want to let it ride a bit.

Which makes me think this happens occasionally and the wires usually come thru in due time if you "just wait".

Serge Litehead

it's been a long time, and if they did indeed send it, wire now is probably travelling back to sender. it could be either a human error or routing problem through corresponding bank, could be Cyprus bank too offshore for BofA NY have any routing links with it, and it just gets returned, that's just my speculation as I have no clue how banks operate between themselves in different regulatory jurisdictions. i remember few of my wires to epass were returned at a time i was trying to set up account with them, CB simply refused to deliver them.

human error easy detectable - they can always check wire receipt for mistakes

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Vjo

[long post but I may have mentioned you, in a good way ]

Well good news guys. The wire came back to the sender today. Apparently the wire said, my "bank account was closed".

So somehow something prob got inputted wrong is my guess. So they offered to rewire me immediatly for $50 for their time. Of course I said, "No thanks, please pay by Paxum". I aint ever going back to intl wires I dont care. So they are gonna add it next period.

Praise God. Seriously. I know we all fuck around and shit but if they were BSing me I WOULD be out of this biz.

So I know they arent gonna bs me all afternoon in tickets. Not their style. So I believe them and the money will be repaid.

So if they by chance are reading this I thank them for doing a bang up job. They were with me all afternoon looking into it via tickets.

They use an exchange service to pay with Paxum. You all ever use one or get paid with one? Anyhow they also said there is a 3 day lag at most with that too before it hits Paxum.

So still waiting on yesterdays 10-1 period payment to hit Paxum. But soon.

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Thanks to everyone in this thread. Everyone.

Special thanks to holograph. You gave me a couple key points in the we hours when it was only me and my worries that helped me fig all would be ok and I could get some sleep.

Special thanks to lagcam for some really good info on wires and strategies if this ever happens to you.

Also special thanks to Harmon who was there 1 min after my first post on that god awful morning with encouragement. And we all know Harmon doesnt let it go easily. j/k Love ya. It meant a lot at the time.

And thanks to BigTimer and Porno Jew. Big Timer had a certain optimism that really helped. And PJ was right in his posts as well. The wire WAS lost and it wasnt coming. Also thanks for your help with the bank a few days back.

Also a special, special thanks to Mister Peabody and one other fellow who prefers to remain anon for their help. I wish I could say his name but he doesnt want any spotlight. But he was there when I really had noone else to ask. Yes I would have got by but he saved me fees and took a heap of worry off my mind.
Thanks buddy

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With MP I never asked for a thing. You seen the thread. He just offered to help. We were always good friends but now we are pretty much brothers. From my perspective anyhow. LOL Love ya MP. Tear em up over there in Europe.

MP is in Europe getting new content for the sites among other things. cough! Banging babes! cough! ana

I am so jealous. Not really. Well I am but I could never do the stuff he is doing. Prob the most talented guy in this biz overall with the most raw talent and one of absolute most intelligent guys not only in this biz but in life. He is getting it done!

And everyone else who gave good stuff too. EVERY POSTER in this thread. Thank you very much. When I needed someone YOU were there. Thank you for taking the time.

This thread is proof that when the chips are truly down there are guys who care and I run out of words here..

Also thanks to the sponsor who paid (or is gonna pay) me my $87 even tho the min is $100. I just dont know if I should say the name. Post here and I will call you out. Great fucken guy gave me ZERO probs getting paid the $87. Thanks man.

All of you in this thread are the GOOD GUYS in this biz and it makes me feel good to know people in this biz do care when someone is truly on the brink of disaster.

Thanks everybody.

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When this period's payment finally comes from the exchange company to Paxum, (any moment) I may just have to sink away into a thread and post a tune for Spunky like old times. Whatta ya say Spunk. My goal in life is too hang out with a cigar and just comment here and there. Love ya Spunky. Great guy who gave me some great encouragement throughout this last month.

So stop by if you see a "party thread" you will know the money came to Paxum. Any moment now.

In Paxum (and Ruth) I trust. Chris too.

I love you all. Thank you.

for MP, a little Mamas and Papas cause MPs fav hot music babe of all time is Michelle Phillips. and I can't argue. Thanks buddy.

one of my fav songs of all time











and one more for me and Lucky, always love ya buddy



Btw, I happen to know MP has a lil treat coming up for the faithful one of these days. But I will let him have the thunder.

ok I better hit submit for Pete's sake, thanks all

yes we are at 20 images A lot more smilies were actually made in this post. (smile)

Vjo

Sorry Big Timer is BIGTYMER. Too late on the edit.

this last month started with a sad Marshall Tucker song: I Should Have Never Started Loving You

Today we go full circle and celebrate with some very up MT songs.











thank you ALL for stopping the rain

yes that is a triple for U

Vjo

Anyhow I should be good now and onward and upwards. Knock on my 1885 American table (real wood ) Cant wait to send Juicy Ads some money again. Love ya Jay. and Plugrush too.

One more player just entered the game again. That is good for business. Everyone's business. You all can be proud. As MP said we have to "stick together".



i could not ask for more

Vjo

And lastly and mostly, I thank my sponsor who IS honest. The honest sponsor is still the backbone of this biz at least in my eyes.

Thank you.

a very calming song for the honest sponsor



as you were thanks for reading all that

The Porn Nerd

Mister Peabody is a dick. Fuck him man......

Glad it's working out for you my dear friend VJo!!!! Times like these can feel like the Gods are shitting down your throat for fun and sport - damn you Zues and Apollo! Go fuck a water nymph or something and leave our VJo alone!

Sending you a quick email about the music [roject. Mostly research but fun research so no re-payment is necassary, just information and good times woohoo!!!!

Now let us all know when that paxum check arrives so we can close this thread/chapter and look forward to the rest of this year: holidays, snow storms and more holidays (and more money for all, God Bless Us Everyone).

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