Question : Starting a program - GoFuckYourself.com

Zorgman · 10-10-2011, 08:26 PM

If you were to start a program right now with say 5 paysites.

How much money would YOU need to get it off the ground?

I've asked a few people on my icq about this just out of curiosity.
Some say $10k others said $100k to $200k and 2 guys said over $1million for long term commitment.

I know it all depends on niche and if your shooting or buying content, but it's a general question.

Any thoughts?

devilspost · 10-10-2011, 08:42 PM

just build your 5 frontends and use adultcentro for your content at $99 a month or whatever it is. I dont really know but I think it could be done cheap!

Nicky · 10-10-2011, 09:47 PM

Exclusive content? That's the biggest factor.

bean-aid · 10-10-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman

If you were to start a program right now with say 5 paysites.

How much money would YOU need to get it off the ground?

I've asked a few people on my icq about this just out of curiosity.
Some say $10k others said $100k to $200k and 2 guys said over $1million for long term commitment.

I know it all depends on niche and if your shooting or buying content, but it's a general question.

Any thoughts?

It takes an idea and some money. Your friends that told you 100K+ are not your friends.

candyflip · 10-10-2011, 09:58 PM

I assume that by program you mean affiliate program. This is not something I would even think about doing right now.

I would take whatever money I had and find some other line of business.

SmutHammer · 10-10-2011, 10:23 PM

There is no real answer for this.

Zorgman · 10-11-2011, 12:30 AM

Thanks. I was hoping for some better answers. But I guess it's asking how long is a piece of string.

BIGTYMER · 10-11-2011, 12:48 AM

That's like asking how long is a piece of string!

CurrentlySober · 10-11-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman

But I guess it's asking how long is a piece of string.

Exactly TWICE as long, as it is from the MIDDLE, to ONE end...

HTH xx

k0nr4d · 10-11-2011, 01:10 AM

I'd say around $50-100k would be needed to start

Chosen · 10-11-2011, 04:33 AM

It depends on many factors...

Zorgman · 10-11-2011, 04:46 AM

That's why i asked what YOU need to get it off the ground.

SmutHammer · 10-11-2011, 05:17 AM

if I were to take a guess, it's going to be over 100k easy.

10K to start "not including any content"

no 1 man army is going to be able to pull it all off, so your also going to need employee's

there are many things you can do to save money, such as hiring models for a day rate and shooting her in different scenes for multiple sites.

and again it depends what your going to do, different types of scenes have different pay rates.

cherrylula · 10-11-2011, 05:39 AM

Really it depends on what type of affiliates you are expecting, or would like. Among other things. And niche, of course. If you have a good micro niche and decent content, people with that traffic will promote you, but I would say make sure your tours have NO LEAKS, decent promo tools (you don't need tons if they are good) and keep yourself available and visible here (a good idea).

You can do it cheap, if you do it right. But doing it for the love of it first and working the niche right is most important and will show in your work.

BIGTYMER · 10-11-2011, 06:15 AM

1. Hosting
2. Content
3. Design
4. Biller
5. Traffic
6. CCBill Affiliate Program

You can easily build a paysite for a few grand. Purely bought content. It wouldn't be nastydollars quality but it would be a paysite. With the state of the adult economy content deals are everywhere.

There you go Zorgy. You're all set.

czarina · 10-11-2011, 06:19 AM

it all depends on what niche, what you'll offer, etc.
But minimum ballpark figure would be $15,000

Kenny B! · 10-11-2011, 07:05 AM

Program with 5 exclusive sites you're looking at $100k+ to get things going properly. Now if you want to shoot 10 scenes per site for the tours and fill the members area with dvd content it can be done on the cheap.

When we plan a new exclusive site we usually budget roughly $25k for content to get the site rolling. Keep in mind it isn't cheap to have girls drink piss on camera so that content costs us a pretty penny;-)

Rochard · 10-11-2011, 07:26 AM

It depends on how much of everything you can do on your own.

If you want to do a quick job with cheap website design, purchased content, and cheap affiliate software, yeah, you can do it for $10k. If you want high end custom content, top notch web design, and NATS or MPA3.... That's a different story. Plus, depending on how much of this you can do yourself, you might have to hire someone to put it all together.

Zorgman · 10-11-2011, 05:28 PM

Good answers. Anyone else got an opinion?

AmeliaG · 10-11-2011, 05:49 PM

$120k give or take. To make something with all exclusive content, multiple front-ends, and a really excellent members area, with good affiliate tools.

Sharky · 10-11-2011, 06:09 PM

I think those telling you $50-100k+ are fairly accurate. Content production costs, design costs and labor are your variables. Are you doing this all yourself? I assume you would be programming your own CMS, buying exclusive or semi-exclusive content and paying for design. It's easy to put a shitty site together these days, but there are a lot of other variables that certainly make a 5 site venture + affiliate program a higher $$ entry level.

porno jew · 10-11-2011, 06:11 PM

12 dvd videos, tour, nats, someone to set up cross sales.

alias · 10-11-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

12 dvd videos, tour, nats, someone to set up cross sales.

Just put your tgp behind a paywall.

SmutHammer · 10-11-2011, 07:32 PM

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venus · 10-11-2011, 11:36 PM

why do you need "a program"
you dont need an affiliate program to start a site, spend the time promoting the site to surfers instead of to affiliates, after you figure it out then start an affiliate program

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman

If you were to start a program right now with say 5 paysites.

How much money would YOU need to get it off the ground?

I've asked a few people on my icq about this just out of curiosity.
Some say $10k others said $100k to $200k and 2 guys said over $1million for long term commitment.

I know it all depends on niche and if your shooting or buying content, but it's a general question.

Any thoughts?

DWB · 10-12-2011, 12:09 AM

Depending on how you get your content, I think $20,000 - $100,000 is fair to get the doors open. You could also steal all your content and have zero content overhead, which would reduce your start up costs to almost nill if you are able to do most of the work yourself.

Maybe better to start with one site. You'd get it open faster and have money coming in faster, money that would help you grow the program and open more sites. Not to mention, you'd spend much, much less to get it open.

ilnjscb · 10-12-2011, 04:07 AM

It is a fair question - everyone with high posts is going around saying only sponsors are making money these days.

What if you already have the content, what would the rest cost?

Theo · 10-12-2011, 04:26 AM

Start with one site

sojproductions · 10-12-2011, 04:43 AM

i'd also start with one site (presuming it's your first ever paysite), imo the most important thing is it must be 100% exclusive material, either you shoot it or employ a studio to do it for you, pick a niche and know as much about it as possible. A brand new 'generic' hardcore site will make 10-20 sales per week if your lucky, even if your material is exclusive. It has to be something that only you have to offer.

So in answer to how much, all depends on your content costs, putting a decent site together will be around $5k.

The Ghost · 10-12-2011, 12:28 PM

Without more details as to the type of sites/content and program it's all guesses. And if you have those details you can get quotes for it all

Factors ...
- 5 sologirl sites shot in the can with 20-30 photo sets/videos ?
- 5 active sologirl sites where the girl does cam and there are 50-100 episodes each
- 5 Unique hardcore content sites, niched/themed?
- How many episodes?
- Exclusive/semi exclusive/non exclusive?
- Backend software for the program leased/purchased?
- CMS leased/purchased?
- Processing costs with x amount of accounts
- Hosting needs
- Programer(s)
- Designer(s)
- Many many other things

ilnjscb · 10-12-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sojproductions

i'd also start with one site (presuming it's your first ever paysite), imo the most important thing is it must be 100% exclusive material, either you shoot it or employ a studio to do it for you, pick a niche and know as much about it as possible. A brand new 'generic' hardcore site will make 10-20 sales per week if your lucky, even if your material is exclusive. It has to be something that only you have to offer.

So in answer to how much, all depends on your content costs, putting a decent site together will be around $5k.

How would you go about getting 15 sales a week?

rogueteens · 10-12-2011, 06:47 PM

You can start up a paysite for very little - i tried it a while back as a pet project using WP as a CMS, a designer who had a deal going for the tour and content picked up in some of the bargain threads in the buy/sale sections of forums. In all it cost me less than $500 (I already had a CCBill client account). Thats the easy part, the hard part is getting traffic to the site

Zorgman · 10-12-2011, 09:10 PM

For those of you asking which niche, exclusive content or not.
I was asking what you would do and how much you would pay. So if you were going to put together a program. Would you pick exclusive content over non exclusive. Ccbill or nats (other), how big would you start out or would you start small and work your way up.

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Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Question : Starting a program If you were to start a program right now with say 5 paysites. How much money would YOU need to get it off the ground? I've asked a few people on my icq about this just out of curiosity. Some say $10k others said $100k to $200k and 2 guys said over $1million for long term commitment. I know it all depends on niche and if your shooting or buying content, but it's a general question. Any thoughts? __________________ ---

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SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,845	There is no real answer for this.

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Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	That's why i asked what YOU need to get it off the ground. __________________ ---

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SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,845	if I were to take a guess, it's going to be over 100k easy. 10K to start "not including any content" no 1 man army is going to be able to pull it all off, so your also going to need employee's there are many things you can do to save money, such as hiring models for a day rate and shooting her in different scenes for multiple sites. and again it depends what your going to do, different types of scenes have different pay rates. Last edited by SmutHammer; 10-11-2011 at 05:19 AM..

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Really it depends on what type of affiliates you are expecting, or would like. Among other things. And niche, of course. If you have a good micro niche and decent content, people with that traffic will promote you, but I would say make sure your tours have NO LEAKS, decent promo tools (you don't need tons if they are good) and keep yourself available and visible here (a good idea). You can do it cheap, if you do it right. But doing it for the love of it first and working the niche right is most important and will show in your work.

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BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	1. Hosting 2. Content 3. Design 4. Biller 5. Traffic 6. CCBill Affiliate Program You can easily build a paysite for a few grand. Purely bought content. It wouldn't be nastydollars quality but it would be a paysite. With the state of the adult economy content deals are everywhere. There you go Zorgy. You're all set.

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,746	it all depends on what niche, what you'll offer, etc. But minimum ballpark figure would be $15,000

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Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	I think those telling you $50-100k+ are fairly accurate. Content production costs, design costs and labor are your variables. Are you doing this all yourself? I assume you would be programming your own CMS, buying exclusive or semi-exclusive content and paying for design. It's easy to put a shitty site together these days, but there are a lot of other variables that certainly make a 5 site venture + affiliate program a higher $$ entry level. __________________ Sharky

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Depending on how you get your content, I think $20,000 - $100,000 is fair to get the doors open. You could also steal all your content and have zero content overhead, which would reduce your start up costs to almost nill if you are able to do most of the work yourself. Maybe better to start with one site. You'd get it open faster and have money coming in faster, money that would help you grow the program and open more sites. Not to mention, you'd spend much, much less to get it open.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,791	It is a fair question - everyone with high posts is going around saying only sponsors are making money these days. What if you already have the content, what would the rest cost?

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	Start with one site

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Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	For those of you asking which niche, exclusive content or not. I was asking what you would do and how much you would pay. So if you were going to put together a program. Would you pick exclusive content over non exclusive. Ccbill or nats (other), how big would you start out or would you start small and work your way up. __________________ ---