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Old 10-14-2011, 02:25 PM   #51
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think it will be close depends on how well repubs cheat
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:55 PM   #52
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well, he has to deal with the rubble the gwb mismanagement left for him as legacy ... i bet america will blame HIM for that ... so, no, i dont think he will make it again
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:05 PM   #53
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:14 PM   #54
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yep thats why china invested 30 billion in green energy and own solar which we created in america.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:17 PM   #55
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:42 PM   #56
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He has raised several times more funds for his campaign than anyone else so far. He can literally buy his way in through the media.

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Old 10-14-2011, 05:15 PM   #57
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well, he has to deal with the rubble the gwb mismanagement left for him as legacy ... i bet america will blame HIM for that ... so, no, i dont think he will make it again
Sure, that's a good argument... If we ignore the epic failure of a mess his administration has left that makes Bush seem like Bush lite.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:35 PM   #58
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Here is an interesting scenario....Obama's handlers tell him he needs to pick Mrs Clinton as his VP. Obama gets reelected. Obama gets killed in a false flag attack (since he is not really "one of them") by another patsy war veteran (they love using veterans as patsies right?). This fuels racial discord. Riots ensue. The Clintons are back in the White House. The bankers/financiers are forgotten.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:02 PM   #59
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:04 PM   #60
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I love how you fucking idiots who know nothing keep talking in absolutes
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:28 PM   #61
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Here is an interesting scenario....Obama's handlers tell him he needs to pick Mrs Clinton as his VP. Obama gets reelected. Obama gets killed in a false flag attack (since he is not really "one of them") by another patsy war veteran (they love using veterans as patsies right?). This fuels racial discord. Riots ensue. The Clintons are back in the White House. The bankers/financiers are forgotten.
I actually think that he will stick with Biden for now, but if he wins re-election Biden will likely step down and he will make Clinton VP which puts her in a prime spot to run at the end of his second term.
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:39 PM   #62
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The Republicans need to nominate Newt Gingrich. None of them can match Obama's debate skills, but Newt is the only one that Obama can't walk all over.

The expanding 99% movement could rally liberal voters and not only put Obama back in, but give Congress back to the Dems. I think these protests are going to grow dangerously large next year and the potential is there for political riots in the US for the first time in decades.

How the left felt in 2004 when Bush got re-elected is how the right will feel in 2012. I think they will be even more crushed though. Conservatives know that an Obama win and losing congressional seats would be a serious blow to modern conservatism (which is already on life support).

IMO the only man that could have done it for the Republicans is Donald Trump, but he was never serious. It was a publicity stunt. His life is too comfortable as a Wall Street celebrity.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:05 PM   #63
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I think 4 years is far too short of a time for one administration to make a real change. It's just enough time for them to begin unraveling the previous administrations ball of knots and then boom they put someone else with a different plan in there and repeat.. hope he gets re-elected.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:06 PM   #65
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Having a hard time figuring out why anybody would even ask the question
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:29 PM   #66
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Historically presidents (almost) never get reelected when the economy is in the shitter.

Roosevelt was an exception primarily because his opponent(s) were perceived as offering nothing except more of that which precipitated the country's economic collapse.

Obama too will be reelected for precisely the same reason.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:30 PM   #67
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Without reading any part of this thread... I hope he does not get re-elected.

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Old 10-14-2011, 10:12 PM   #68
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:56 PM   #69
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:23 PM   #70
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Obama? I can't believe anyone would even consider voting for him.

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Regardless of who is actually responsible, it all fell apart on Obama's watch. Then it got worse, and continues to worsen. I assume they will polish the turd a bit when it comes election time, and the world will fall for it as they usually do, but the band-aid will fall off once he's reelected. He's such a smooth talker and he's going to have a gazillion dollars to spend on his campaign.

I hope he doesn't get reelected, but I think he will.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:33 AM   #72
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:37 AM   #73
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I hope he doesn't get reelected, but I think he will.
The only problem with Obama not getting reelected is that some bible thumping, "Oh my God I saw a naughty picture on the interwebs !", "Let them eat cake" type will be elected in his place.

Personally, I'm still waiting for none of the above to announce his or her candidacy.
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ahh this was an economic war with china

the US lost
China is crumbling right now and when they fall, they will fall very hard. Their looming financial problems are well beyond the scope and scale of any other developed nation and they have yet to crash.
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BTW.. not sure why people who think a guy who got elected simply by chanting "hope and change" and "yes we can" - can't get elected again just as easily.
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Without any good alternatives I can't see how not. Every single one of the republican candidates so far are completely unelectable.
You can make that observation from Norway? Man, you're good, stunningly insightful and super smart.
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no one mentioned Ron Paul in this thread.

I think most are embarrassed about his eyebrow toupee falling off.

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BTW.. not sure why people who think a guy who got elected simply by chanting "hope and change" and "yes we can" - can't get elected again just as easily.
The problem with voting against that guy is that you then have to vote for someone else.

Have you taken a good look at the selection of someone else's lately?

We're talking the bar scene from the first Star Wars movie here.
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there is a picture of paul markham in this thread !
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What is neat is that I saw him give his announcement to run for president of the United States, to think he would have made it!!! Originally from Illinois BTW.
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Besides, it really doesn't matter, this country is coming into a world of severe financial problems. After the elections, 6 million Americans unemployment insurance runs out. This will make the real unemployment numbers around 24%.

Anyway, as bad as you think our financial and political problems are, it pales in comparison to Europe. As usual, typical EuroTrash elitist snobs blaming poor little Greece for all their financial problems.

Greece -

External debt (as % of GDP): 182.2%

Gross external debt: $579.7 billion
2010 GDP (est): $318.1 billion

External debt per capita: $53,984

As they ignore other truly fucked up finances.

France -

External debt (as % of GDP): 250%

Gross external debt: $5.37 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $2.15 trillion

External debt per capita: $83,781

United Kingdom -


External debt (as % of GDP): 413.3%

Gross external debt: $8.981 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $2.173 trillion

External debt per capita: $146,953

Or the worst in the World!!!!!

Ireland -

External debt (as % of GDP): 1,382%

Gross external debt: $2.38 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $172.3 billion

External debt per capita: $566,756 <---- Holy fuck!

For Ireland to pay off it's true debt and break even, every Irish citizen would need to pay a half million dollars!

I think the whole Eurozone is going to crumble in the next year or two... sucks to be them..
There is still plenty of pain coming on a global scale and it's going to get a lot worse. I also agree with the Eurozone crumbling.



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The only problem with Obama not getting reelected is that some bible thumping, "Oh my God I saw a naughty picture on the interwebs !", "Let them eat cake" type will be elected in his place.

Personally, I'm still waiting for none of the above to announce his or her candidacy.
IMHO, everyone is fucked either way.
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As it looks right now, and of course things can change, it will be Obama vs Romney.

Romney is a moderate and a huge flip-flopper. He wrote the Obamacare plan, and he does not have the fringe right-wing base (Teatards).

As long as teatards are still in the mix, why would anyone vote for Romney over Obama?

Romney is in favor of less taxes for the rich, since he's rich!

Given the choice between Romney and Obama, does Obama win or lose, and why?

BTW, I just watched an interview with Cain. He has zero chance. Once Cain fulfills his token role, he'll be tossed aside like Alan Keyes and Michael Steele.
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It's all up in the air right now, you can make the predictions.
Obama has done a lot and nothing has improved on what he started with.

I wouldn't discount Cain. There are more people that think Obama is a bad leader than ever, it's started a movement with all the bad leadership in this country and more and more people think we should try something different. Poor people are more likely to be democrats and they won't like the 9-9-9 plan, takes away their EIC check every year. But he not playing to them, he's playing with the GOP which by the numbers would benefit the people that feel they've been taxed too much for too little return.

And there are a lot of those people.

I think more people see Obama's jobs bill as a ploy for political gain than something that would actually work. He has always been about playing the two parties against each other.
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