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Old 10-20-2011, 04:38 PM   #51
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It might help if you could at least produce a lefty or dem that is holy religious values onto the people... that's kinda the point though.
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Yes, being that we're talking about right and left, is it really that hard to figure out who 'you guys' is?

Where did I say you supported Backmann, she was an example....
Being a fiscal conservative who happens to support what the right used to stand for or should stand for doesn't mean I support what they are now. But you mentioned someone going to church as if I knew.


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Being that we're talking about Religion, and you brought up something about me ignoring who is in office... clearly I would assume you heard Obama say something radical in his speeches and I was ignoring it, thus making a double standard.
No, this part of the discussion was NOT about religion and you know that. Do not try to play dumb here (if you are that is). The initial rebuttal was to BFT3K and his double standards when he's looking at the idiots running for president and not the idiot in power. I don't know HOW you could lump this together with the religion argument unless you're doing it intentionally.

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They're all broke liberals without jobs.
Do we have any statistics on their overall qualifications and their monetary policies at home?



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Oh, my bad... what was your point in this particular section of the conversion?
That you, like BFT3K, are using double standards and trying to mask them with irrelevancy in case someone calls you out. At least you're not grasping at straws.



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I didn't say they were orchestrated by Wall Street, I said they called the meetings, and they did. And btw, they're protesting the power of the gov and what it's doing too... Notice, it's not all Wall Street being protested.
I also notice it's not Pennsylvania Ave being protested either.


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I simply stated what was reported...
If this was the case, you wouldn't use a poll and then claim it's a logic fail. Since you tried to do it, I turned it against you.

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If you want to talk about failed logic and self pwnage, yes, they're all clearly broke, mismanaged, in debt bastards... with that brilliant logic, all Tea Baggers are all racist.
There's the strawman! Was waiting for it.

At least you're not spouting insults... yet
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:54 PM   #52
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haha crazy religious right-wing nutjob Demon takes the bait again and wastes another entire day in one of my threads!
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:57 PM   #53
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I'm against any politician, Republican, or Democrat, that wants government to get even bigger.



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Old 10-20-2011, 05:59 PM   #54
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Your an idiot if you believe in that governmental shit. You fuckin numb nutted fag whore
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:23 PM   #55
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No, this part of the discussion was NOT about religion and you know that. Do not try to play dumb here (if you are that is). The initial rebuttal was to BFT3K and his double standards when he's looking at the idiots running for president and not the idiot in power. I don't know HOW you could lump this together with the religion argument unless you're doing it intentionally.
Very well... I straight up had no idea what you were talking about.


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Do we have any statistics on their overall qualifications and their monetary policies at home?
Hehe... I wasn't being serious, well... maybe a little. But I have found "left" topics don't attract the "left" they bring in the right, while anything created for the right, brings in everyone.



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That you, like BFT3K, are using double standards and trying to mask them with irrelevancy in case someone calls you out. At least you're not grasping at straws.
Oh... well, based on the religious topic, not so much... however we all have double standards in various ways.

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I also notice it's not Pennsylvania Ave being protested either.
That's what is great about this movement. If you think that it needs to be, then go tell people and do it.... It's not like this is limited to one topic or idea, all types of shit is screwed up, at every level.



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If this was the case, you wouldn't use a poll and then claim it's a logic fail. Since you tried to do it, I turned it against you.

There's the strawman! Was waiting for it.

At least you're not spouting insults... yet
Let me reword that, it's the only bit of information like this put out so far... it's the only thing we have to go on, outside of Google pictures, which support the ratio's of ages at least.


Sometimes the straw man is needed to show how silly it is to define an entire group of people to a single frame of mind.... it's as stupid as saying, "all" tea party people are racists, or as you said "Funny how they aren't protesting their own monetary mismanagement because if you don't have the self awareness to poke fault at yourself, there's always someone else to blame."
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:00 AM   #56
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Once again Doc mops the floor with a Demon with the IQ of an inbred Galveston Texas hick.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:49 AM   #57
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...what a "feelgood" thread this is this evening.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:25 AM   #58
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Your an idiot if you believe in that governmental shit. You fuckin numb nutted fag whore

this guy is a piece of work!

Governmental Shit? haha dude go back and finish grade school and maybe you wont be so bitter at all the educated people
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:44 AM   #59
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Labeling each other Democrats or Republicans is something that needs to stop. Clearly neither "party" has the interests of the public in mind.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:30 PM   #60
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I understand that you have lived in a grey little socialist world over there for the few years you have been on the planet, I lived there myself for 4 years back in the early 80s, doing my "O" levels and "A" levels.... So I realize that you have not been exposed to any other school of thought but the one that thinks that giving more power to a group of people that have the legal right to use force to impose their decisions on you is a good idea.... Have you ever read Frederic Bastiat? Or Ludwig von Mises? You should give them a try sometime.

Here is a thought from Bastiat... "If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? "



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The idea of a democracy is that we, the people, control the state for the common good.

The UK is not a socialist country, has not been a socialist country, but the people in this country won a few victories against the rich and the privileged,

After WW2 we had a national health service, free education, social housing, school meals and old age pensions, we had unemployment benefit.

This was because capitalism had failed to give people a health, service, housing etc....

Was this government big or small - who gives a fuck, it was allowing people to live a have decent life.

Now are politicians always copying US crap ideas, not because they work, but because they make the rich richer have privatized education, sold off social housing attacked trade Unions (The right to strike break and kiss the employers arse -that freedom )

Now you talk about the State being repressive, yes thats the view of the founding fathers, because the State supported the monarchies of Europe, thats why they were opposed to it, Now the state supports the ultra rich, and they are the ones talking bullshit about a small state.

Cause they want you to work for the them, but not to have any social responsibility for the welfare of the people.
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