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Old 10-28-2011, 06:20 AM   #1
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MFC is terminating all cams from the Philippines on Oct 31

Oct 31 they are closing the Asian page and all accounts from the Philippines. The reason stated was "legal reasons."
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:22 AM   #2
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Hardly surprising, I would imagine the documentation issues would be a nightmare. You're in Thailand, I'm sure you've seen plenty of fake ID card situations, can you imagine what it's like in Ph ?
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MFC are racists

they only want whyte gurls to make all the cash
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Hardly surprising, I would imagine the documentation issues would be a nightmare. You're in Thailand, I'm sure you've seen plenty of fake ID card situations, can you imagine what it's like in Ph ?
Fake ID's are not that common in Thailand. But yea in the Philippines fake passports are for sale everywhere, and a lot of people are born with no birth certificates, so even if they are of age they have no choice
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In other news, Leo is suing a copycat site ripping their streamed vids as well.
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Hardly surprising, I would imagine the documentation issues would be a nightmare. You're in Thailand, I'm sure you've seen plenty of fake ID card situations, can you imagine what it's like in Ph ?
Sooooo many minors working cams in the Philippines. What they do is, they open one account with a girl, then work many more girls through that same account. Only 1 ID is given. The PI studios do this on a mass scale. Looks like it finally bit them in the ass.

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Suing them AND stealing from them at the same time? Awesome.
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Sooooo many minors working cams in the Philippines. What they do is, they open one account with a girl, then work many more girls through that same account. Only 1 ID is given. The PI studios do this on a mass scale. Looks like it finally bit them in the ass.



Suing them AND stealing from them at the same time? Awesome.
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There is a general problem with the ID documents from the Philippines.
Many performers do not have Passports or Driver's Licenses -- just the postal ID cards that are commonly used for identification there. It is rare for a model to have two forms of government issued identification there and of course fake IDs are a commodity in abundant supply.

Most cam sites are being strict on ID to avoid any allegations of underage performers.
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Is it true though that in some places - I heard Philippines among others - a new-born is one year-old for the first year of his or her life? Meaning that when they hit 18, they're in fact 17 yrs old?

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poor girl, what will they do now ?
Dance, prostitution, sexual slavery. No shortage of any of this in a country that forbids cams.
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poor girl, what will they do now ?
Work another cam network or go back to selling ass.

Though, if it's known their are ID issues from Philippines and MCF just gave them the boot, you have to wonder what the other cam networks are thinking.
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Is it true though that in some places - I heard Philippines among others - a new-born is one year-old for the first year of his or her life? Meaning that when they hit 18, they're in fact 17 yrs old?

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"East Asian age reckoning is a concept and practice that originated in China and is widely used by other cultures in East Asia, which share this traditional way of counting a person's age. Newborns start at one year old, and each passing of a Lunar New Year, rather than the birthday, adds one year to the person's age. In other words, the first year of life is counted as one instead of zero, so that a person is two years old in their second year, three years old in their third, and so on.[1][2] Since age is incremented on the new year rather than on a birthday, people may be 1 or 2 years older in Asian reckoning than in the Western system.

Today this system is still commonly used by some Chinese people.[citation needed] The system is also widely used by Koreans, with the exception of the legal system and newspapers. In Eastern Outer Mongolia, age is traditionally determined based on the number of full moons since conception for girls, and the number of new moons since birth for boys. In Japan it is used for traditional fortune-telling or religion, and it is disappearing in daily life between people in the city."

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Given the crackdown on cybersex in Ph this year, I would imagine that a few operators would be reconsidering their operations. There seems to be an upswing in actions by local authorities throughout the Philippines against cybersex, a few of many articles below.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/330812...op-rpoc-agenda

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/332483...stration-urged

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/44779/c...barangays-town

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/34313/t...er-sex-victims

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local...7-saved-149471

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_667388.html
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"East Asian age reckoning is a concept and practice that originated in China and is widely used by other cultures in East Asia, which share this traditional way of counting a person's age. Newborns start at one year old, and each passing of a Lunar New Year, rather than the birthday, adds one year to the person's age. In other words, the first year of life is counted as one instead of zero, so that a person is two years old in their second year, three years old in their third, and so on.[1][2] Since age is incremented on the new year rather than on a birthday, people may be 1 or 2 years older in Asian reckoning than in the Western system.

Today this system is still commonly used by some Chinese people.[citation needed] The system is also widely used by Koreans, with the exception of the legal system and newspapers. In Eastern Outer Mongolia, age is traditionally determined based on the number of full moons since conception for girls, and the number of new moons since birth for boys. In Japan it is used for traditional fortune-telling or religion, and it is disappearing in daily life between people in the city."

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well that's confusing as fuck....
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well that's confusing as fuck....
You guys thought you had it hard with 2257?
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Heh. they haven't started to grasp that this year is 2554 in some places, that ought to add to the confusion
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Heh. they haven't started to grasp that this year is 2554 in some places, that ought to add to the confusion
Indeed.

Add a different calendar to ice it all.
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Heh. they haven't started to grasp that this year is 2554 in some places, that ought to add to the confusion
man, that had me confused at the supermarket - sausages that are good until 2554? must be the hell of a load of preservatives
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man, that had me confused at the supermarket - sausages that are good until 2554? must be the hell of a load of preservatives
You bought Sausages from Tesco Lotus ? Braver man than I am
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hehe - they were awful

but later i found stuff from a german/thai company, that was as good as here
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We did this several months ago. We had substantial issues, namely when they'd sign up and submit ID, they would then try to pull a switch on us...and put girls on who werent even the girls in the ID...and at one point, I swear one girl was not even legal. Fortunately we caught it before she got any shows, but still. This "switch" game happened with EVERY PH studio. Not worth the risk at all to us. Sucks because they do have some beautiful girls there
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This "switch" game happened with EVERY PH studio.


And I'm sure they are pulling the same shit with every cam network.
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This is a good move for MFC I think. We see the occasional suspect ID / model once in a while but what really creeps us out are people who want to have their own site, featuring only models from the Philippines, who get upset when we tell them the models have to be 18. One guy on the phone with me went on this rant, calling us "Puppets of the US Justice System". What a freak.
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Work another cam network or go back to selling ass.
See, this is why Filipinos dominate the Asian cam market: because there's less opportunity, and/or willingness, to 'sell ass' in other ways - like in bars or porn or prostitution - than in Thailand, which has ten times as many foreign (aka sex) tourists as the Philippines.

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Though, if it's known their are ID issues from Philippines and MCF just gave them the boot, you have to wonder what the other cam networks are thinking.
Ironically, unlike years ago when their passports were simple and handwritten (and cam sites didn't even insist on a passport as ID), these days Philippine passports are modern, machine readable and have a remarkable level of anti-counterfeiting.

Also ironically, given their entire economy basically depends on sending Filipinos abroad to work, the level of proof of identity when applying for a passport is absurdly high, perhaps due to the slack record-keeping otherwise and perhaps due to pressure from other countries, requiring multiple IDs (which themselves can be an enormous hassle to obtain) to establish a person is who they claim to be.

I'd certainly trust a Philippine passport before a Russian passport, it being an endemically corrupt Mafia State that leads the world in underage porn.

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We had substantial issues, namely when they'd sign up and submit ID, they would then try to pull a switch on us...and put girls on who werent even the girls in the ID...and at one point, I swear one girl was not even legal.
That issue has always existed. It's usually not because they're underage (I don't think Filipino bosses care about that one way or the other), rather than they just don't have a passport.

Because of the relative hassle to get a one, many people who should be entitled to a passport are denied one because they either lack other IDs needed, or their ID, or even birth certificate, has been filled out incorrectly due to incompetence.

As to one of them looking un-legal, they may well have been underage and TBH probably were, but Asians and Filipinos often do look younger than they are, and I know for a fact of a cam site rejecting someone in their 20s because the site claimed they looked underage on their (genuine) passport photograph.
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MFC is the wild wild west. I've frequently seen girls on there blasted out of their minds drunk, drinking on cam, smoking pot, and a few even ripping rails early in the morning. Music blaring. Tons of people in the chat rooms. That place is a circus. I can see why surfers love it. It's Dodge City.

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Girls from the Philippines are masters at not being sexy so I hardly see it as a loss besides the fuckers going only for the youngins to begin with.
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I snapped this screenie of one of the craziest things I've ever seen in a cam show. These girls had the room on FIRE! Partying, getting the room riled up, playing killer music, and in the end, once the board was cleared and they were all hammered, the two girls tore up the little one and it was insane. Craziest thing I ever saw how they both fucked the little one like they never had sex before.



Nuts. Some of these girls really know how to hustle this set up.

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See, this is why Filipinos dominate the Asian cam market: because there's less opportunity, and/or willingness, to 'sell ass' in other ways - like in bars or porn or prostitution - than in Thailand, which has ten times as many foreign (aka sex) tourists as the Philippines.
You are drastically underestimating the endemic and systemic problems of sexual exploitation in the Philippines. It's far worse than Thailand, it's just not as visible to some people in some areas. If you really believe what you have written above you need serious re-education as to the extent of the sex industry in the Philippines.

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"For the last year, PETA's affiliate in Asia has been working to expose and stop those behind a series of pornographic snuff videos in which girls as young as 12 are videotaped torturing and killing animals. These "crush" videos depict the girls stepping, standing, and stomping on animals—from the smallest of mice to large dogs—and are made for a niche market of demented individuals all over the world who derive sexual pleasure from watching animals being abused and slowly killed. Such videos are so heinous that the U.S. enacted a federal law to ban their sale just last year.

The content of the videos associated with this case in the Philippines is beyond sickening. They show scantily clad young girls in high heels crushing puppies, cutting the ears from screaming rabbits who are then set ablaze, driving a sharp stiletto heel repeatedly into a monkey's eyes, and other scenes that are so disturbing that I will spare you the details. The abuse of these animals is prolonged as their limbs are broken and organs crushed until they bleed from the eyes and finally succumb to the agony. But please keep reading.

PETA Asia staff approached and have been working with the Filipino National Bureau of Investigations for more than a year. Finally, after overcoming painstaking hurdles, the police have now charged two people with cruelty to animals, the corruption of minors, and other crimes. The couple has now fled; warrants have been issued for their arrest, and PETA Asia is offering a substantial reward to help locate and bring them to justice."
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"For the last year, PETA's affiliate in Asia has been working to expose and stop those behind a series of pornographic snuff videos in which girls as young as 12 are videotaped torturing and killing animals. These "crush" videos depict the girls stepping, standing, and stomping on animals?from the smallest of mice to large dogs?and are made for a niche market of demented individuals all over the world who derive sexual pleasure from watching animals being abused and slowly killed. Such videos are so heinous that the U.S. enacted a federal law to ban their sale just last year.

The content of the videos associated with this case in the Philippines is beyond sickening. They show scantily clad young girls in high heels crushing puppies, cutting the ears from screaming rabbits who are then set ablaze, driving a sharp stiletto heel repeatedly into a monkey's eyes, and other scenes that are so disturbing that I will spare you the details. The abuse of these animals is prolonged as their limbs are broken and organs crushed until they bleed from the eyes and finally succumb to the agony. But please keep reading.

PETA Asia staff approached and have been working with the Filipino National Bureau of Investigations for more than a year. Finally, after overcoming painstaking hurdles, the police have now charged two people with cruelty to animals, the corruption of minors, and other crimes. The couple has now fled; warrants have been issued for their arrest, and PETA Asia is offering a substantial reward to help locate and bring them to justice."
Wow, that's seriously f*cked up, and sad...

It's a good thing PETA and others are doing something to try and stop this:

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The intent of this thread was not to demonize the people of the Phillipines.

There are many good Filipinos -- the wrong doings of a few should not be made a stereotype of an entire people.

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MFC is the wild wild west. I've frequently seen girls on there blasted out of their minds drunk, drinking on cam, smoking pot, and a few even ripping rails early in the morning. Music blaring. Tons of people in the chat rooms. That place is a circus. I can see why surfers love it. It's Dodge City.

i love MFC, it's reality TV to me, of course that they're naked drunk and stoned young chicks helps but I watch some girls like a soap opera. love KittenForever, i'd do a documentary on her if i was a filmaker.

Everybody should see a Violet meltdown at least once.

I've seen meth and crack on MFC. Saw a young drunk and stoned southern trailer trash girl bang a guy who must have been 65 on there which is against the rules and everybody in the chatroom was sure it was her dad or uncle - hysterical comments.

i've noticed that most of the girls I liked haven't been on since summer - i guess they went back to school and don't have time or they quit camming.
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:19 PM   #41
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didnt they bust the chinese gymnast girls being like 3 in the olympics or something? age with that part of world is tricky.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:19 PM   #42
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The intent of this thread was not to demonize the people of the Phillipines.

There are many good Filipinos -- the wrong doings of a few should not be made a stereotype of an entire people.
There are nice Filipinos for sure, but every single one of them would rip you off for money if they had the chance or if they end up in cetrain situations. Give them your finger, they'll take your hand. No exceptions, it's in their blood. Just like their lack of common sense.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:40 PM   #44
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Yeah because people get their lives lost everyday in the Philippines over underground cam studios. When it comes to the Philippines and being smart. It's always, kill now ask questions later. ;)
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:43 PM   #45
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Wow, that is pretty big news. Not good news for the Filipinos at all.
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:54 AM   #46
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Even I am a filipino that is a good news for me.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:02 AM   #47
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"legal reasons"?

It appears that myfreecams is trimming the fat as some models from the Philippines will be allowed to remain as part of their main page lineup, so I can't be sure what the real story is. It just appears as though myfreecams is cutting down their bandwidth consumption with the lower earning models and are using the Philippines as their target for where to start cutting. When their Miss myfreecams contest is taken into consideration (both one contest for main page, and one additional contest for the asian page) , added up, number one through ten, the dollar amount total is $2,700.00 in prizes. Eliminating Miss myfreecams "asian" from the equation saves them some money right there.

A model friend of mine in Romania copied over the announcement that models see when they log into their business accounts. I noted the legal problems don't seem to extend to the top asian models.

Oct 26th, '11 Asian Homepage Closure
**THE FOLLOWING ONLY AFFECTS MODELS ON THE ASIAN HOMEPAGE**

Unfortunately, effective October 31 2011, we are closing the Asian Homepage portion of MyFreeCams.com, which is where models from the Philippines broadcasted their webcams.

The top models that are shown on both the normal homepage and the Asian Homepage will continue to be shown on the normal homepage and they will have no change to their account.

The models that are shown only on the Asian Homepage will have their accounts closed at the end of the pay period on October 31 2011.

All models will be paid all of their earnings like always.

Even after the account have been closed, models will still be able to login and check their previous stats and change their payment information if needed to make sure that they are paid everything they are owed.

This immediate change was required for legal reasons and there was nothing we could do to avoid it. We are truly sorry. We cannot provide any more details.

We value all of our models from all over the world and we hope that in the future we are able to once again broadcast models from the Philippines.

There are many other websites who are able to accept models from the Philippines, and if you need help finding another site please contact our model suppport and we will do our best to help you.

Please accept our sincerest apologies from the entire MyFreeCams Team -- we always tried to do our best for you and we are very sad to see this day come.

**THE PRECEDING ONLY AFFECTS MODELS ON THE ASIAN HOMEPAGE**



It just looks to me that myfreecams is tightening up their ship. Can't blame them for that if costs are the real reason.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:12 AM   #48
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The intent of this thread was not to demonize the people of the Phillipines.

There are many good Filipinos -- the wrong doings of a few should not be made a stereotype of an entire people.
True. This goes for all peoples in all nations.

Us, the West, are party responsible. We continue sending out this message to the rest of the world that having money is great, without wanting to share anything with them. Instead, we exploit them. So they get desperate, and some of them lose it and become violent. In the UK people have been convicted for producing animal crushing videos as well.

So my comment "Philipines to everything for money" was wrong. My apologies.
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The intent of this thread was not to demonize the people of the Phillipines.

There are many good Filipinos -- the wrong doings of a few should not be made a stereotype of an entire people.
Go to any developing country and you'll see the same thing.

I'm sure worse happens in Cambodia.
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Not a big loss, just checked the asian version.
Totally unsexy hoes...
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