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Old 11-02-2011, 07:21 PM   #51
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thanks for the responses everyone... will be addressing some of the points without the quotes

as for a network... i think microsoft identifies 2 computers linked together as a network... but i digress

my first site i started about 2 years ago and for the first half it was only a collection of embeded youtube videos. didn't even use any sponsors... was just a site for fun. early this year i started throwing shit at the wall with sponsors and identified a few

over the past 2 months i have had increases in sales every month after doing a redesign on how i was promoting the sponsors...

the on the 3 sites in my network... yes, network are all about 3 months old and are basically just sitting there germinating until i decide exactly how i want to go forward with them.

also, not a content creator so of course this is a different world than a lot of you on here... i just promote a few sponsors and am starting on cams

i expected the jerk-offs to respond but am pleasantly surprised by the positive words of some of you... thanks again for the encouragement. my goal here was to put a realistic $ on someone who is relatively new to the game and working a few hours a week
I remember when you first started your site, talked to you back then on hahahahahahaha...it's looking good and glad you're making money off of it!
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:35 PM   #52
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It seems to create animosity when I post my stats, so I shall refrain from doing it.

But you're doing well to make that much with just 4 sites in your network. I have close to 700 and they dont make as much per site as yours are doing.
i plan on adding a site a month or so... but i'd like to get what i have rolling first...

i figure 100 sites making 500 each a month would be a nice target... lol
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I have a site that makes me $250 a month... But then I have many of those and many more that make more...
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i plan on adding a site a month or so... but i'd like to get what i have rolling first...

i figure 100 sites making 500 each a month would be a nice target... lol
Well, that IS 'The Mister Peabody Way': add a site a month. Here's my latest & greatest, just approved by CCBill today:

www.misterpeabodyasia.com

Look what Mister P can do with shit - spin it into pure....copper, at least.

If you're doing cams, not paysites, or sponsers-only you'll experience a wide range of sales, from 0 - x+, depending on the cams, the sponsers, etc. You would need a 100 or more to really get going, especially today, but if they all average out to $500 per month then you're golden. I wouldn't recommend getting into the paysite game because creating/obtaining your own content is a real bitch (and not in a good way, not like a good bitch can be so goo-o-o-d kinda way).
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:02 PM   #55
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thanks peabody... i actually have a glamour model friend and we are starting a very small site for her... i am going to shoot the pics and vid and we will probably sell zip sets and a low price membership that will include a web cam chat a week or so
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:51 PM   #57
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ps... i had 440 visits today from search
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:18 PM   #58
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a panda ate all my sales starting in august
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I assume he is working and increasing his network and traffic, why do you assume that its his "end point"?
And if it is his end point its still not 8$ a day like you claim it is maybe 8$ an hour or 8$ a 10 minutes(or whatever amount of time he spends on it per day).

And who cares that he called it a network, its just a word. Plus at least half of gfy members does not earn 250$ a month, I do not understand why some of you make fun of him.
Actually it is an average of $8 a day, i don't care if thats after 12 hours slogging over a keyboard or if the sites are on auto pilot and he hasn't touched them, it's an average.

If it's really $8 for ten minutes work, why not work for thirty minutes and make $24 or maybe go crazy and work for a full hour and pull $48? Don't bother answering, you know the real answer.
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Actually it is an average of $8 a day, i don't care if thats after 12 hours slogging over a keyboard or if the sites are on auto pilot and he hasn't touched them, it's an average.

If it's really $8 for ten minutes work, why not work for thirty minutes and make $24 or maybe go crazy and work for a full hour and pull $48? Don't bother answering, you know the real answer.
U are so good at word problems. U must have rocked 4th grade math.
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your doing it gr8, i made few bucks from mainstream and 3 transactions from cam , 1 sale from tgp.

so not much ... i dont even keep track., now i just build and build, ill think about it when i reach 5k/month

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My advice is pick ONE site and stick with it. If you have a network, then put all the sites on one domain and push that domain. (eg http://www.tacamateurs.com )

Its FAR better to have one big site ranked on places like google than to have lots of little sites ranked way down.

Id also take the $250 youve earned and re-invest ALL of it in buying fresh traffic. Keep doing that for 6 months or so before you take any money out yourself.

Most importantly stick at pushing the ONE site. Dont be tempted to start launching lots of little sites as they wont make a bean. You really can be earning tens of thousands per MONTH in this game. It can take years but you'll get there

Good luck
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My advice is pick ONE site and stick with it. If you have a network, then put all the sites on one domain and push that domain. (eg http://www.tacamateurs.com )

Its FAR better to have one big site ranked on places like google than to have lots of little sites ranked way down.

Id also take the $250 youve earned and re-invest ALL of it in buying fresh traffic. Keep doing that for 6 months or so before you take any money out yourself.

Most importantly stick at pushing the ONE site. Dont be tempted to start launching lots of little sites as they wont make a bean. You really can be earning tens of thousands per MONTH in this game. It can take years but you'll get there

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Some of the stupidest, more generalized advice I have heard...
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My advice is pick ONE site and stick with it. If you have a network, then put all the sites on one domain and push that domain. (eg http://www.tacamateurs.com )

Its FAR better to have one big site ranked on places like google than to have lots of little sites ranked way down.

Id also take the $250 youve earned and re-invest ALL of it in buying fresh traffic. Keep doing that for 6 months or so before you take any money out yourself.

Most importantly stick at pushing the ONE site. Dont be tempted to start launching lots of little sites as they wont make a bean. You really can be earning tens of thousands per MONTH in this game. It can take years but you'll get there

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So you think the long tail is nonsense then?
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Does this tally with your own analytics?

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So you think the long tail is nonsense then?
I dont know why but you seem to have a problem with every post I make

Ive no idea what you mean by the "long tail". All Im saying is to run a network, its far easier to market a single domain than it is to try and run lots of smaller ones

I know because thats exactly how we started back in 2003, ie with lots of smaller domains. It wasnt until we put them altogether on tacamateurs.com that things really started to take off. Now Im glad to say we get over 100,000 uniques a day and Id much rather have all that going to one domain than having it spread accross dozens of smaller domains

By the way, your own site is ranked 1,889,189
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I dont know why but you seem to have a problem with every post I make
I think this is the second of third time I've replied to any of your posts here. Not sure what you mean?

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Ive no idea what you mean by the "long tail".

It's essentially totally the opposite to what you were saying the OP should do. It's the reason for amazon's success. The idea that if you get 1000 people buying Dan Brown or 2 people buying a weird unusual book. But if you get 1000s of the people wanting the weird book, you make more money in the long run.

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All Im saying is to run a network, its far easier to market a single domain than it is to try and run lots of smaller ones
Yes, I understand what you are saying. I just wondered if that meant you give no credence to the long tail. As you've not heard of it, I guess it does. That's all. Just another idea, not knocking your obvious success, just asking you a question.

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Heh. Nice edit adding that.

My site is for B2B marketing. How many of the idiots that install the alexa bar do you think would be interested in that? What %? Roughly?

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Why do some people think traffic means jack? It's worse than people who dick wave about turnover. Profit is the only thing that counts.

JohnRingo, if the most you have ever made in a month from multiple different sites is $250, why do you act so much like you're the shit?
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Why do some people think traffic means jack? It's worse than people who dick wave about turnover. Profit is the only thing that counts.

JohnRingo, if the most you have ever made in a month from multiple different sites is $250, why do you act so much like you're the shit?
if you read my post, you will see that nearly all the sales came from 1 site... the other 3 are only a few months old...

as for why i party like i have a 12" cock... well that's easy... i do
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if you read my post, you will see that nearly all the sales came from 1 site... the other 3 are only a few months old...

as for why i party like i have a 12" cock... well that's easy... i do
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My advice is pick ONE site and stick with it. If you have a network, then put all the sites on one domain and push that domain. (eg http://www.tacamateurs.com )

Its FAR better to have one big site ranked on places like google than to have lots of little sites ranked way down.

Id also take the $250 youve earned and re-invest ALL of it in buying fresh traffic. Keep doing that for 6 months or so before you take any money out yourself.

Most importantly stick at pushing the ONE site. Dont be tempted to start launching lots of little sites as they wont make a bean. You really can be earning tens of thousands per MONTH in this game. It can take years but you'll get there

Good luck
While I think this wouldn't have been the ideal strategy in the past, and therefore technically wrong, I think it may be the best strategy moving forward. If there's one lesson to be learned from Panda, it's that you don't want to ever see yourself in a situation where your looking back in time wondering what the fuck you did wrong or find yourself sitting there with your hand on your cock trying to decode the new algo. Rather than being perpetually one step behind, and maybe this is just the chess player in me talking, but I think it's better to anticipate what Google will do next and be proactive instead of reactive. With that being said, my guess is that the next update will put a greater weight on internal linking. When buying links, starting crap websites to linkback to your main site, doing link exchanges etc., you can do so without regard to what effect it will have on your shitty feeder site, or the person selling links, or your b and d of your abcd exchange or whatever the fuck, but if you link crap to yourself, you're effectively shitting on yourself, so it's only reasonable to assume that you're links to yourself are not crap and if this holds true, having a big site gives you a virtual army of pages for a strategic non-crap internal linking strategy.
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what TACNet recommends is the best method for panda. you guys are idiots sometimes.
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Panda showed that having all your eggs in 1 website is suicide.
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Depends on the basket. Many people fared well.
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Depends on the basket. Many people fared well.
For sure, but if you were one of the ones that didn't, with just one basket, you're fucked. Simple as
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Ended with about $400 less in october compared to november.
you can read the future?
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True. So maybe two or three semi big baskets is the way to go now instead of one big basket or a bunch of little baskets. lol
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I am doing 4 Or 5 large sites with general topics and then based on things I learn Fron them and with further research I plan on expanding into smaller niches. I think a realistic net per site is $500. Once there it's time to start replicating.
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i gotta agree with TAC on this one from experience. Mega sites are the way.
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I had my best month ever. I made (after domains and hosting expenses) $250 - 1 aged and 3 new sites in my network. 90% of sales from the aged domain.

Of course this will be followed by a bunch of useless and sarcastic comments from GFY losers... but for those who care to share a realistic number, I think it might be a cool experiment.
I was going to make a smart-assed sarcastic comment, but I just feel sad now.

I've shared realistic numbers with GFY before - its pointless. Congrats if you're growing, though. You gotta keep plugging away.
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I have a site that makes me $250 a month... But then I have many of those and many more that make more...
If that is the case please consider a little flexibility when trading on linkspun. I.e. if you request a trade from a site with a PR0 stop limiting the return trade to PR0. Seems like you could afford a little bit of generosity
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From my research on market samari I really think that u need at least one super site in your network. Look at how freeones ranks for every girls name even if they only have a link or two for her and no real content.
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This is 100% true. In my network I'm fortunate enough to have three whales that have mad traffic and links, and the other smaller sites benefit from that. But what TAC Amateurs is recommending can work, too, especially if the content doesn't warrant differant sites (as in, all the content is in the 'amateur' niche).

This assumes, however, that the single site owns or pays for the content on the site. Perhaps they do splits with the content producers but structure it so the producer is an 'affiliate" instead of a "partner". But if you do 50/50 splits with the content producers, as I do, then each producer needs his own site, domain, etc.

There are advantages and perils to both but I'd say, in the end, what you wrote is best (paraphrasing): have 2 or 3 "big" sites with a bunch of smaller satellite sites surrounding and integrating with them. Kind of like splitting the baby. LOL
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This is 100% true. In my network I'm fortunate enough to have three whales that have mad traffic and links, and the other smaller sites benefit from that. But what TAC Amateurs is recommending can work, too, especially if the content doesn't warrant differant sites (as in, all the content is in the 'amateur' niche).

This assumes, however, that the single site owns or pays for the content on the site. Perhaps they do splits with the content producers but structure it so the producer is an 'affiliate" instead of a "partner". But if you do 50/50 splits with the content producers, as I do, then each producer needs his own site, domain, etc.

There are advantages and perils to both but I'd say, in the end, what you wrote is best (paraphrasing): have 2 or 3 "big" sites with a bunch of smaller satellite sites surrounding and integrating with them. Kind of like splitting the baby. LOL
And you still do not have a merchant account... sigh...
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And you still do not have a merchant account... sigh...
LOL I know, I know...but I realized recently that it is possible to grow my business using third party processors so that's the route I'm pursuing. We'll see what the future brings, of course...
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john ringo what mainstream niches are you working...
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i dont understand john you say people in porn dont think outside the box in your sig but what you are doing hundreds have done before you. what makes your network different. not trolling, asking an honest question.?
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i dont understand john you say people in porn dont think outside the box in your sig but what you are doing hundreds have done before you. what makes your network different. not trolling, asking an honest question.?
is it that or is it a play on words...

honest answer... i think that porn producers are killing us with the same old uninteresting crap videos of the same girls getting banged in the same doctors office, classroom, back of a van, etc.

i have an idea that i can't fund right now is pretty significant. while it's a play on a similar concept, it presents it in a much more user friendly way

and for those of you that will say, porn is produced this way because it sells.... then why is everyone bitching about sales?

ps... i don't mind trolling... fucking free country
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its a good start man.. focus on adding more sites and quality traffic.. there IS money in porn.. a lot!
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porn producers are killing us with the same old uninteresting crap videos of the same girls getting banged in the same doctors office, classroom, back of a van, etc. i have an idea that i can't fund right now is pretty significant.
so you're going to put some new girls in the front seat of the van, crash it into a school, and have them fuck the paramedics with strapons when they arrive but you dont have enough to fund this idea because it will cost more than $250 to shoot, unless you rent the uhaul van with collision damage waiver for $19.95/hr
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