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Old 11-09-2011, 01:13 AM   #101
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you can't be serious.
only a really dumb person can't calculate something like this and you are making a thread out of it?
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lol wtf with the first few replies, the answer is 1.

(anyfuckingthing) x 0 always = 0
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:00 AM   #103
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HAHAHAHA who taught you math????

First you ALWAYS do multiplication FIRST! And any number multiplied but 0 always equals 0! So 40*0= 0
Then start from right to left. 40+0=40
Last number 40+1=41
Thus the answer is 41!
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Mind you, there are too many priceless replies in here to give due credit. Holy fuck, what has the world come to.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:05 AM   #104
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If you put this equation into an excel spreadsheet cell (=40+40*0+1), the calculated answer is 41
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:36 AM   #106
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lol wtf with the first few replies, the answer is 1.

(anyfuckingthing) x 0 always = 0
wrong....

apply it to real life. if i had 40 bucks, and i said i'd give you that plus double whatever money you had in your pocket....

40 + 2 x X = your money

badly notated.... should be 40 + (2 x X)... but similar to the original equation.

so if you had no money in your pocket (X = 0), doing the math from left to right would get you $0.

40 + 2 = 42, then 42 x 0 = 0?

so did my 40 bucks disappear because you're broke?

PEMDAS!
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I'm staggered that people are applying scientific maths to a non-scientific maths problem.

There is no parentheses (sp) so you don't insert one (as a scientific calculator would do, because it obviously assumes it's a scientific equation - you cant add the parentheses as you type in the equation). The order of operation only comes into it when calculating scientific maths, so you go left to right, because this quite clearly is NOT a scientific maths equation, due to the fact there are NO parentheses.

People who are adding them in themselves are like the dumb fucks who indicate right at a 4 exit roundabout when they are going straight over - there is no need!

And I say dumb fucks affectionately ;)
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:38 AM   #108
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(.)(.) + $$$ = ( ? )( ? )
math we can all agree upon
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wrong....

apply it to real life. if i had 40 bucks, and i said i'd give you that plus double whatever money you had in your pocket....

40 + 2 x X = your money

badly notated.... should be 40 + (2 x X)... but similar to the original equation.

so if you had no money in your pocket (X = 0), doing the math from left to right would get you $0.

40 + 2 = 42, then 42 x 0 = 0?

so did my 40 bucks disappear because you're broke?

PEMDAS!
Not quite correct, because you'd need to say you'd give me 40 bucks and another 40 bucks, times that 80 bucks by whatever I have in my pocket, in this case 0, then a buck on top. Which is a buck.

Now, if you said you'd give me 40 bucks, plus 40 bucks multiplied by what I have in my pocket (in other words, you verbally added the parentheses), plus a buck, then you'd give me 41 bucks.
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I'm staggered that people are applying scientific maths to a non-scientific maths problem.

There is no parentheses (sp) so you don't insert one (as a scientific calculator would do, because it obviously assumes it's a scientific equation - you cant add the parentheses as you type in the equation). The order of operation only comes into it when calculating scientific maths, so you go left to right, because this quite clearly is NOT a scientific maths equation, due to the fact there are NO parentheses.

People who are adding them in themselves are like the dumb fucks who indicate right at a 4 exit roundabout when they are going straight over - there is no need!

And I say dumb fucks affectionately ;)
Though I could be wrong, with, or without the parens, I think the rules still apply;
http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/v...perations.html
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I would say that since there are no parenthesis the answer must be 1. But I have not taken a math class in many years, so the rules may have changed.
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from the introduction of modern algebraic notation, where juxtaposition indicates multiplication of variables, multiplication took precedence over addition, whichever side of a number it appeared on.[1] Thus 3 + 4 × 5 = 4 × 5 + 3 = 23. When exponents were first introduced, in the 16th and 17th centuries, exponents took precedence over both addition and multiplication, and could be placed only as a superscript to the right of their base. Thus 3 + 52 = 28 and 3 × 52 = 75. To change the order of operations, originally a vinculum (an overline or underline) was used. Today we use brackets. Thus, to force addition to precede multiplication, we write (2 + 3) × 4 = 20, and to force addition to precede exponentiation, we write (3 + 5)2 = 64.
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Not quite correct, because you'd need to say you'd give me 40 bucks and another 40 bucks, times that 80 bucks by whatever I have in my pocket, in this case 0, then a buck on top. Which is a buck.

Now, if you said you'd give me 40 bucks, plus 40 bucks multiplied by what I have in my pocket (in other words, you verbally added the parentheses), plus a buck, then you'd give me 41 bucks.
even without parentheses, multiplication is to be done before addition
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even without parentheses, multiplication is to be done before addition
Not in non-scientific maths, no.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:54 AM   #117
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Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

standard:

40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41
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I'm staggered that people are applying scientific maths to a non-scientific maths problem.

There is no parentheses (sp) so you don't insert one (as a scientific calculator would do, because it obviously assumes it's a scientific equation - you cant add the parentheses as you type in the equation). The order of operation only comes into it when calculating scientific maths, so you go left to right, because this quite clearly is NOT a scientific maths equation, due to the fact there are NO parentheses.

People who are adding them in themselves are like the dumb fucks who indicate right at a 4 exit roundabout when they are going straight over - there is no need!

And I say dumb fucks affectionately ;)
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Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

standard:

40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41
Go to wolframalpha.com and use it!

41 it is!
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Holy. Fuck.

I cannot believe you guys are still arguing about this.

Look up the order of operations rules, apply them, get your answer. It's not that damn hard!
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My Samsung Galaxy S says 41
My Canon pocket calculator says 1
My Sony VAIO all in one 24" computer says 1

I say 41 and I think Samsung is already leading the world.
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Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

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40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41
Just stop. You're wrong.
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Djeez are you people serious?

the answer is 41.
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The only way that this can be 41 is if the equation is written like this:

40 + (40 x 0) + 1
40 + (40 x 0) + 1 = 40 + 40 x 0 + 1
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"A common technique for remembering the order of operations is the abbreviation "PEMDAS", which is turned into the phrase "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally". It stands for "Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication and Division, and Addition and Subtraction". This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). "

http://www.mathsisfun.com/operation-order-pemdas.html.

"Note: in the UK they say BODMAS (Brackets,Orders,Divide,Multiply,Add,Subtract), and in Canada they say BEDMAS (Brackets,Exponents,Divide,Multiply,Add,Subtract). It all means the same thing! It doesn't really matter how you remember it, just so long as you get it right."
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I really can't believe people are arguing about this one. The troll thread Phoenix made with the implied multiplication was at least interesting. This is so simple it's stupid.
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the answer is 1 anything x 0 = 0 the addition is at the end after the equals = symbol plus + 1 so answer is can only be one.

Those that think there is any other outcome are mixing up the order of the equation.
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Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

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40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
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+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41


Stop it. You're going to give me a fucking heart attack!
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Google calculator turns it like this: (40 plus (40 times 0)) plus 1 = 41
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http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf

anything times by 0 is 0.

1x0=0
2x0= 0
798x0=0

so the answr is 1

http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf
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anything times by 0 is 0.

1x0=0
2x0= 0
798x0=0

so the answr is 1

http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf
God damn it no. The order of operations ALWAYS apply. For fuck sakes you idiots.
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anything times by 0 is 0.
You mean multiplied, not times
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if dvtimes thinks the answer is 1, then the correct answer is 41
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God damn it no. The order of operations ALWAYS apply. For fuck sakes you idiots.


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I have to leave. I'm crying over here I'm laughing so hard.
I know it's fucking amazing isn't it? This is simple grade school math and it's not just one or two people that are wrong. You'd think we'd have learned by now that GFY is full of idiots but it still catches me off guard how dumb some people are.
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I know it's fucking amazing isn't it? This is simple grade school math and it's not just one or two people that are wrong. You'd think we'd have learned by now that GFY is full of idiots but it still catches me off guard how dumb some people are.
That's not even the part that makes me laugh. It is a common mistake and while it's grade school math it's intuitively "wrong". But here we have an entire thread of people explaining why it's 41 and an entire internet of information so that anyone can look this up for themselves but they are still in here arguing that they are absolutely right and insinuating that we're all idiots because we don't know that something multiplied by 0 is 0.
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The amount of FAIL in this thread truly amazing. The answer is 41. Those who doubt that obviously did not pay any attention in school.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:29 AM   #145
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I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.

As sure as you are that it's 41 because the order of operations always apply, I (and it looks like everyone else in the UK) is as sure they don't always apply, unless specifically in algebra/scientific maths.

We had separate lessons to explain to us the difference between eg 40 + 40 * 0 +1 and 40 + (40 * 0) + 1

That's the only reason I can think of that everyone is 100% confident in their answer, be it 41 or 1.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:30 AM   #146
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Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step.
You're wrong there Jel, if you do that you are turning it into three different equations. If you do it as one calculation on any calculator, it will use the order of operations. 1 is the answer a primary school child would give, but everything you learn in maths after that tells you the answer is 41.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:31 AM   #147
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I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.
Not in the US... and the answer is 41.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:32 AM   #148
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I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.

As sure as you are that it's 41 because the order of operations always apply, I (and it looks like everyone else in the UK) is as sure they don't always apply, unless specifically in algebra/scientific maths.

We had separate lessons to explain to us the difference between eg 40 + 40 * 0 +1 and 40 + (40 * 0) + 1

That's the only reason I can think of that everyone is 100% confident in their answer, be it 41 or 1.
No. You're simply wrong.

Math is absolute. Rules apply and they always apply so that you always reach the same answer to a given equation period. According to you there's two different answers depending on the kind of "Maths" you apply. If that were true there would need to be some sort of notation to specify which rules you use, which you'll notice there isn't.

The answer is 41 period.

Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:32 AM   #149
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I came up with 1 at first - but I am the clever one here as I then read up about it and realised it was 41....

Why am I the clever one ?

1. I checked.

2. I can admit it when I am wrong.

Two things that the majority here seem unable to do.....
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You're wrong there Jel, if you do that you are turning it into three different equations. If you do it as one calculation on any calculator, it will use the order of operations. 1 is the answer a primary school child would give, but everything you learn in maths after that tells you the answer is 41.
Sorry yeah, not hitting enter, but looking at the screen per each step. I'm doing it on a calculator, built into my pc, using 'standard' as 1 flowing equation, to get 1. Using it as scientific, as 1 flowing equation, gives 41.

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