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Old 11-09-2011, 05:37 AM   #151
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LOL...i can't stop laughing reading this thread... :D :D :D Especially to people giving wrong answer and adding "that's why you are adult webmasters".... :D :D :D
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No. You're simply wrong.

Math is absolute. Rules apply and they always apply so that you always reach the same answer to a given equation period. According to you there's two different answers depending on the kind of "Maths" you apply. If that were true there would need to be some sort of notation to specify which rules you use, which you'll notice there isn't.

The answer is 41 period.

Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.
Heh, edited before I could reply ;)

Yes, maths in the uk, as there is no 'mathematic', eg automobiles shortened = autos, automobile shortened = auto.

The notation, I was always taught at least, though redwhiteand blue says is different, is that the notation *is* the use of parentheses, so none = a notation in itself.
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you can't be serious.
only a really dumb person can't calculate something like this and you are making a thread out of it?
Why don't you tell us the answer, bitch.
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LOL...i can't stop laughing reading this thread... :D :D :D Especially to people giving wrong answer and adding "that's why you are adult webmasters".... :D :D :D
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I came up with 1 at first - but I am the clever one here as I then read up about it and realised it was 41....

Why am I the clever one ?

1. I checked.

2. I can admit it when I am wrong.

Two things that the majority here seem unable to do.....
Yeah I only just looked at google as I was wtf, hence my only idea is that we are taught differently. redwhiteandblue has stated he wasn't taught like that so who knows, maybe I went to a shit school(s)

We certainly weren't taught the order of blahblah though, the 1st time I've ever heard of it is in this thread
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Yeah I only just looked at google as I was wtf, hence my only idea is that we are taught differently. redwhiteandblue has stated he wasn't taught like that so who knows, maybe I went to a shit school(s)

We certainly weren't taught the order of blahblah though, the 1st time I've ever heard of it is in this thread
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebit...tionrev1.shtml
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Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.
Fuck. Do we have to give you guys an English lesson now too?
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Heh, edited before I could reply ;)

Yes, maths in the uk, as there is no 'mathematic', eg automobiles shortened = autos, automobile shortened = auto.
This is exactly why it sounds weird. The S on automobiles indicates plural. The S on Mathematics does not indication plural as like you said there's no Mathematic and thus no need for an S on Math. Strange little difference in the language I guess.
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Fuck. Do we have to give you guys an English lesson now too?
Only if it's better than the Math lesson you guys are trying to teach.
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Like I say, maybe I went to a shit school, I can guarantee you I was never taught bodmas by the time I left in 1986. Honestly, I am fucking stunned, posted this on facebook earlier and everyone I went to school with has said 1.

Just asked if anyone from my school can remember being taught bodmas/order of operation to see if I really have just lost my memory :-0
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This is exactly why it sounds weird. The S on automobiles indicates plural. The S on Mathematics does not indication plural as like you said there's no Mathematic and thus no need for an S on Math. Strange little difference in the language I guess.

Nah, that's why you have the S - it exists in the word you are shortening We invented the language so I know I'm right on this one :P
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Like I say, maybe I went to a shit school, I can guarantee you I was never taught bodmas by the time I left in 1986. Honestly, I am fucking stunned, posted this on facebook earlier and everyone I went to school with has said 1.

Just asked if anyone from my school can remember being taught bodmas/order of operation to see if I really have just lost my memory :-0
You must have been because you understand that brackets are calculated first.

What about exponents? Do you know they have to be done before both multiplication and addition?
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This thread is full of win

Everyone here is a fucking genius.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:56 AM   #165
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Lol! Adult webmasters...

The orders of operation are missing from the expression so if you take it at face value, then 40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 1. This is the correct answer when expressed in this way. Geeze.

If you express it as (40 + 40) x (0 + 1) then the answer is 80

If you express it as 40 + (40 x 0) + 1 then the answer is 41

etc.
it's not a very well written equation but why are the order of operations missing? they're never missing it's a mathematical fundemental. the answer is 41
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Nah, that's why you have the S - it exists in the word you are shortening We invented the language so I know I'm right on this one :P
Yeah I'm sure you're right for the UK. You guys evolve very slowly over there though what with measuring a person's mass in stones and all
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This thread is full of win

Everyone here is a fucking genius.
This place is full of really smart people. I remember this one idiot that bought a plane ticket for the correct month and day but for the wrong year! Imagine how stupid that is!
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so your saying $40 + $40 x 0 + $1= $41 ???


no its $1

no wonder all the sites are going bust

he he

put it this way...

If I offer you $00 per sale, but alao $10 regardless a month.

this month you get 0 sales, what would i owe you?

$100 x 0 + $10 = $10
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so your saying $40 + $40 x 0 + $1= $41 ???


no its $1

no wonder all the sites are going bust

he he

put it this way...

If I offer you $00 per sale, but alao $10 regardless a month.

this month you get 0 sales, what would i owe you?

$100 x 0 + $10 = $10
Please shut up and check Google. You're absolutely wrong and making an even bigger fool of yourself than you normally do. Consider how hard that is to do.

Your own example even shows you're wrong. It works in the order you've written it because in this case left to right also happens to be the same as the order of operations. Let's rewrite it a different way to prove how wrong you are.

$10 + $100 X 0 = $10
$100 + $10 X 0 = $0 (According to you)

Do you understand now?
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Like I say, we were expressly taught that only if the brackets are there, do you calculate those 1st - if they weren't, to do as someone else posted, and calculate left to right. I'm assuming no-one has actually bothered to open the calc on their PC and run through the question using 1st standard, then scientific? Basically, the brackets taught us that the question was meant in one way, and without, the question was meant in another.

Exponents, yes.
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So what would $40 + $40 x 0 + $1= ?

Surly its £40 plus $40 = $80
$80 times 0 = $0 (so $80 times say 0 sales will make 0 sales unless you are an affiliate and in your mind it probably is $5600).
$0 + $1 = $1

or am i wrong?
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Please shut up and check Google. You're absolutely wrong and making an even bigger fool of yourself than you normally do. Consider how hard that is to do.

Your own example even shows you're wrong. It works in the order you've written it because in this case left to right also happens to be the same as the order of operations. Let's rewrite it a different way to prove how wrong you are.

$10 + $100 X 0 = $10
$100 + $10 X 0 = $0 (According to you)

Do you understand now?
Not According to me. when have i said $10 + $100 X 0 = $10? it would be 0
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Like I say, we were expressly taught that only if the brackets are there, do you calculate those 1st - if they weren't, to do as someone else posted, and calculate left to right. I'm assuming no-one has actually bothered to open the calc on their PC and run through the question using 1st standard, then scientific? Basically, the brackets taught us that the question was meant in one way, and without, the question was meant in another.

Exponents, yes.
Look, I gave you a link to the BBC explaining the order of operations. They absolutely exist and they're a standard of Math period. Just like I showed Divvy in the above post they're important or you'd come up with different answers to the same equation which doesn't work for Math.

Anyways I'm done, if you guys still don't believe me after it's been explained over and over again then that's your choice.
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Not According to me. when have i said $10 + $100 X 0 = $10? it would be 0
Sigh, okay you're right. There's no such thing as the order of operations. It's something I just imagined.

Strangely enough, the BBC also imagined it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebit...tionrev1.shtml

Also your goverment's official school curriculum imagined it too http://curriculum.qcda.gov.uk/key-st...ge2/index.aspx
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Sigh, okay you're right. There's no such thing as the order of operations. It's something I just imagined.
I think he's confused because you put the $ in front of the 100 instead of the 0 (and other reasons )
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Like I say, we were expressly taught that only if the brackets are there, do you calculate those 1st - if they weren't, to do as someone else posted, and calculate left to right. I'm assuming no-one has actually bothered to open the calc on their PC and run through the question using 1st standard, then scientific? Basically, the brackets taught us that the question was meant in one way, and without, the question was meant in another.

Exponents, yes.
thats correct

this is baby maths.

shall we talk about ratio analises, as they will do most of your heads in.

you read from left to right.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 =

means this....

40 + 40 = a

a x 0 = b

b + 1 = c

c = 1

there are NO bracets.

if we had bracets its a different sum.
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Look, I gave you a link to the BBC explaining the order of operations. They absolutely exist and they're a standard of Math period. Just like I showed Divvy in the above post they're important or you'd come up with different answers to the same equation which doesn't work for Math.

Anyways I'm done, if you guys still don't believe me after it's been explained over and over again then that's your choice.
Are you drunk? Where did I say I didn't believe you? I posted that I *do* lol, wtf...
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thats correct

this is baby maths.

shall we talk about ratio analises, as they will do most of your heads in.

you read from left to right.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 =

means this....

40 + 40 = a

a x 0 = b

b + 1 = c

c = 1

there are NO bracets.

if we had bracets its a different sum.
Ignore the lack of brackets, that's wrong. The answer is 41. I'm just stunned I was never taught this order of operations, regardless of brackets or not.
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Are you drunk? Where did I say I didn't believe you? I posted that I *do* lol, wtf...


Give him a break. He's upset
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I think he's confused because you put the $ in front of the 100 instead of the 0 (and other reasons )
I think he's confused because he's an idiot. He won't believe me, he won't believe the BBC and he won't believe his own government.
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Are you drunk? Where did I say I didn't believe you? I posted that I *do* lol, wtf...
My mistake. Glad to see you've come around.
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stupid threat!
the answer is 1 and I'm right par excellence! Any different answer is wrong!

(btw any number moltiplied X 0 is always 0.....but I know you all were kidding and you knew it).
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you read from left to right.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 =

means this....
40 plus something plus 1

something = 40 times 0
40 times 0 = 0

40 + 0 + 1 = 41
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Give him a break. He's upset
Why would I be upset over another person's mistake? That doesn't even make sense. I think it's funny.
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The correct answer is 41, the + and - symbols separate terms while the x and / symbols join them.

This being said

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 40 + (40 x 0) + 1 = 40 + 0 + 1 = 41

Now all those who gave a different answer please go back to school or commit yourselves to porn. =P
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if we had brackets its a different sum.
Ok, so you are aware of the fact that the presence of brackets affects how you solve an equation. Why is that? why does the presence of brackets change the order off things? Because there's such a thing as the order of operations.

The people who say the answer is 1, seem to accept the first part of the order of operations (brackets) and the last part (left to right) but seem to ignore or be ignorant of all the steps in between.
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Has anyone concidered that the the question is flawed?

The perenthesis should have been there.

If the initial question had been written as an exam ANSWER for example would it have been correct?
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i will ask the 12 year old who lives next door what is the answert when she gets home from school.
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Just asked my daughter, who is at school doing GSCE's, who said "no brackets, so 1". Asked her to ask her teacher why the fuck she isn't being taught order of operations/bodmas... should be interesting

Got another mate, same age as me, who is a maths teacher for 11 - 18 year olds, gonna ask him wtf is going on with this apparent teaching failure.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:32 AM   #192
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Has anyone concidered that the the question is flawed?

The perenthesis should have been there.

If the initial question had been written as an exam ANSWER for example would it have been correct?
It's not flawed. Parentheses are part of the order of operations and not required in this case. You use them to specify a different level or to make clear what might otherwise be an ambigious equation. Neither is the case here as there's only one way to solve this equation properly.
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Damnit it's pissing rain in Bermuda right now. Since Bermuda is a UK protectorate I blame you English bastards for that too.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:38 AM   #196
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Ignore the lack of brackets, that's wrong. The answer is 41. I'm just stunned I was never taught this order of operations, regardless of brackets or not.
I do remember being taught it, but I don't remember when. I think I remember being taught that not using brackets can cause confusion so it's always best to use brackets to make it clear which order to do the operations in.
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It's scary to think most people can't figure that out. I guess we older guys have one advantage, we actually went to a school that taught us something.
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the answer is 1 anything x 0 = 0 the addition is at the end after the equals = symbol plus + 1 so answer is can only be one.

Those that think there is any other outcome are mixing up the order of the equation.
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lol wtf with the first few replies, the answer is 1.

(anyfuckingthing) x 0 always = 0
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priceless

Mind you, there are too many priceless replies in here to give due credit. Holy fuck, what has the world come to.
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thats correct

this is baby maths.

shall we talk about ratio analises, as they will do most of your heads in.

you read from left to right.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 =

means this....

40 + 40 = a

a x 0 = b

b + 1 = c

c = 1

there are NO bracets.

if we had bracets its a different sum.


It is one thing to be wrong on a simple grade school math problem....... but to be wrong and so condescending at the same time is a bit over the top.
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Damnit it's pissing rain in Bermuda right now. Since Bermuda is a UK protectorate I blame you English bastards for that too.
In the UK we don't say it's "pissing rain". We say "well at least it's not snowing".
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In the UK we don't say it's "pissing rain". We say "well at least I don't live in the midlands".
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Damnit it's pissing rain in Bermuda right now. Since Bermuda is a UK protectorate I blame you English bastards for that too.
Why not the Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish, Channel Islanders and Manx. Why just the English?

Of course you Americans have never been famous for your geography....

Sorry - Just throwing some coals on the fire -
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