Markham Math - How to make more money!

[stocktrader23]

Paysite owners, this is the easiest way to make more money but you're all too stupid to do it. You'd rather give away free porn than actually make cash and pay me top dollar for my content!

I know none of you will listen but here is the answer right here.



Why stop at $199.95? What if you had a million members paying you $5000 per month? That's 5 BILLION dollars per month without doing anything extra.

Of course if you want to charge $5000 per month you will need top notch content. Instead of finding $300 sets why not pay someone with my skills $5,000,000 to shoot a few sets. You'll be making 60 billion dollars per year on it so it's worth it.

[grumpy]

and you point is besides this stupid example?

[dropped9]

IMHO the higher your per month charge on someone's card the more noticeable the charge becomes the less likely it will re-bill indefinitely.

[B.Barnato]

Can I apply this to other products and markets?

[The Porn Nerd]

?????????????????????????

[seeandsee]

-Open C:/INCOME.txt
-Write "why not pay someone with my skills $5,000,000 to shoot a few sets."
-Calculate % to happen
/rogue user uploads error

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Of course if you want to charge $5000 per month you will need top notch content. Instead of finding $300 sets why not pay someone with my skills $5,000,000 to shoot a few sets. You'll be making 60 billion dollars per year on it so it's worth it.

You stopped at $5,000,000...and that is why you lose.

[Shap]

Those damn Nigerians had it right all along

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

Can I apply this to other products and markets?

Apple already do.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Apple already do.

[martinsc]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Apple already do.

[porno jew]

don't quit your day job.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Apple already do.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Reminds me of advertising for turnkey paysites... the table also includes rebills and shows the number of members and rebills growing every month, along with your income. In their world, no one ever cancels a membership, they rebill forever.

[B.Barnato]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Apple already do.

[tabasco]

what happens if they charge only $5?

[papill0n]

does this also apply to magazine sales ?????

[Jakez]

Usually agree with you but don't here. I'm sure you know that sales will most likely decine the higher the membership price. What I'd like to see is a sales comparison between a site with average paysite content and a site that spent an assload on quality content. And see which profits more in the end with the same membership price keeping in mind that one of them spent a lot more on the content so that is cutting into the profit. Which I think is what Paul was getting at, not a higher membership price.

Edit: and after that, if the better quality site has raised less profit, raise the membership price to see if you can at least balance it out. If they are both equal the site with better content would be the winner.

[Paul Markham]

Well considering Stocktrader has to ask legal questions on GFY, can he afford a lawyer, and has to lie to get attention. I reckon he's a broke idiot.

I never said charge more for the join and repeated it when this had clearly flew over his head. It was my response to a thread about new ideas for paysites and is still true. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1045581

Coming up with a new idea for a paysite theme is easy. Producing the product properly at a profit is hard, if not impossible for most. Simply because as I illustrated in another thread about the costs of running a paysite the profit margins aren't what most think they are.

As a content producer I see a different picture than affiliates. They see people prepared to pay out after a join is made, offering large payouts, if you hit ratios they don't expect, or shaving. OK a few come good.

I see the same people coming to content providers telling them they can't afford to spend much, asking me for my best rice, employing shooters who could never work in a better paying field. Today some do, as the better markets have shut or pay just as badly.

ST took my post to mean we charge more for the join. when I never said it. Even re-posted an explanation for him that was easy for him to take in. Seems he's not that bright.

It's easy to come up with new ideas for paysites. Problem is few can afford it on their budget for the product. Cheaper to give away free porn and payout after the join is made. Now clowns can name a few sites who can afford and ignore the 99.9% who can't and think that makes them right.

This situation did not only apply to us and ST knows this or an idiot. It applied to every site paying peanuts for the product, compared to what others did pay for the same product. Today those other markets are gone and some good shooter are working for peanuts. Happily we don't have to. We made enough by not taking peanuts and let the other monkeys have them.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Well considering Stocktrader has to ask legal questions on GFY, can he afford a lawyer, and has to lie to get attention. I reckon he's a broke idiot.

I don't have to ask anything on GFY, I ask on GFY because before it was full of idiots trolling and shitting up every thread you could actually get industry related responses around here.

Lying to get attention? Your old ass would shit your pants if you knew what I could pull off.

Broke? Idiot? I'm broke according to my own standards because I was off running a family business for a few years so I could get off of the computer but I'm not actually broke in real money terms. To call me an idiot is laughable, someone with half brained ideas shouldn't speak about the intelligence of anyone.

I never said charge more for the join and repeated it when this had clearly flew over his head. It was my response to a thread about new ideas for paysites and is still true. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1045581

I know exactly what you were talking about, the same stupid shit you've been spewing in every post I see from you. You are pissy that content producers don't get paid as much as they used to and you want to see that return. There are more girls willing to get naked, more people shooting those girls, equipment costs are down and people like you move to near third world countries to get model costs down. I mean what I said, wanting 1999 prices in a recession in an industry that is struggling as is makes you retarded. It aint happening and that has fuck all to do with why the industry is struggling. I can do more with free content than I could do with a years worth of your best stuff at whatever ridiculous price you wanted to charge. Guaranteed.

Coming up with a new idea for a paysite theme is easy. Producing the product properly at a profit is hard, if not impossible for most. Simply because as I illustrated in another thread about the costs of running a paysite the profit margins aren't what most think they are.

It might be impossible or hard for most but most are uncreative morons that have been riding the same pony for a decade, kind of how you are with content. Your illustration was shit, which is why I made fun of it in the first post.

As a content producer I see a different picture than affiliates. They see people prepared to pay out after a join is made, offering large payouts, if you hit ratios they don't expect, or shaving. OK a few come good.

Gibberish.

I see the same people coming to content providers telling them they can't afford to spend much, asking me for my best rice, employing shooters who could never work in a better paying field. Today some do, as the better markets have shut or pay just as badly.

Almost gibberish but I could at least piece together what you are saying. They are paying what the market allows, paysites are sucking in general for a plethora of reasons and you aren't fixing any of them with more expensive content.

ST took my post to mean we charge more for the join. when I never said it. Even re-posted an explanation for him that was easy for him to take in. Seems he's not that bright.

No I didn't, and I saw your new post 2 seconds before I saw this thread. Or did you not notice that I wasn't online?

It's easy to come up with new ideas for paysites. Problem is few can afford it on their budget for the product. Cheaper to give away free porn and payout after the join is made. Now clowns can name a few sites who can afford and ignore the 99.9% who can't and think that makes them right.

Ideas are like assholes. Most of the people that have crashed and burned in the last several years brought it on themselves. A lot of people can't afford a lot of shit right now, most of which has nothing to do with what you harp about daily.

This situation did not only apply to us and ST knows this or an idiot. It applied to every site paying peanuts for the product, compared to what others did pay for the same product. Today those other markets are gone and some good shooter are working for peanuts. Happily we don't have to. We made enough by not taking peanuts and let the other monkeys have them.

The market sucks for many reasons, but not because they didn't hire you at overpriced rates for content. Shooters are working for peanuts like a huge chunk of the world are now working for peanuts because the economy sucks and this industry is going through some major change making their bread and butter from 5 years ago near worthless today. They are paying what the market will bare. I really doubt you made near what you are trying to claim and even if you did it's because a lot of shitty sites bought your shitty content for filler. The same sites you are bitching about today. I hate to talk about someones product but you are 'retired' so I'll go ahead. I have not seen one photo from you that I would call 'good' or 'high quality' or anything even close. It's all boring shit that will not sell in todays market regardless of who shot it and your skills are vastly overstated by you.

[ottopottomouse]

Nice reply. Shame he won't read any of it.