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Old 12-03-2011, 04:03 PM   #1
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Albert Pike's 1871 Plan For The Three World Wars

Previously on display in the British Museum Library in London

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

* "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

* "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

* "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion?We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."


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That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?
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another fake quote. interesting i guess if you believed everything you read on the internet.

(yes i researched this ages ago. it's fake. but don't trust me. do your own research.)
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That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan
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The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan
Of course, why didn't I think of that?
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The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan
Yeah that's the only explanation.
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The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan

Very well put.
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There was no such thing of the Nazi party before 1919.
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I call bullshit ... youtube wasn't around in 1871!!!

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The letter appeared on the scene in 1955 in a book by William Guy Carr (June 2, 1895 - October 2, 1959) named Pawns in the Game (1955). Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle

From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr

"Carr states that he learned of this conspiracy from a letter written by Pike and addressed to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini."

"Carr states that he learned about the letter from the anti-Mason, Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled"

"The reference Terry Melanson gives a good treatment to the three world war theory. Michael Haupt had taken the three world war theory from the introduction of Carr's Pawns in the Game(1958). This introduction outlines a plan that Carr attributes to Pike, but not to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. Only the last section of the three world war plan in Haupt's text is a quote attributed to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. This quote is virtually identical to the one in Rodrique's book and it can be traced to the book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894) by Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, where it is claimed to be from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871. This quote was later considered to describe the Bolshevik revolution, but whether a hoax or not, it predates 1917."
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I gotta just put this guy on ignore. He never fact checks anything, just whatever he wants to believe is true.
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ok in your op you source it by saying that it's in the British Museum then you follow up your attempts at proof with a source that states:

"More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt[21] that such a document has never been in their possession."

serious question. how far did you go in formal education?
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I gotta just put this guy on ignore. He never fact checks anything, just whatever he wants to believe is true.
As I said above, make of it what you will.

"Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle"
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ok in your op you source it by saying that it's in the British Museum then you follow up your attempts at proof with a source that states:

"More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt[21] that such a document has never been in their possession."

serious question. how far did you go in formal education?
You're right about the British Museum, I found that after I posted

I was a high flyer in education, but that would be a diversion
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since you believe any piece of shit source as long as it confirms your worldview you might as well cut out the middleman and just make up your own letters, books and quotes.
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since you believe any piece of shit source as long as it confirms your worldview you might as well cut out the middleman and just make up your own letters, books and quotes.
I posted it when I first found it, I was interested to see if anyone else had come across it before, like you had. I was researching it at the same time as posts were appearing here. It takes me a long time before I'll draw a conclusion, at the point when I posted it up it was just something interesting that I wanted to look into.

I do like to keep an open-mind and not immediately write these things off, as there would be a big reason for people to hide this information if it did exist.

I'm sure you're just trying to stimulate posts, and succeeding; well done
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The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan
hahaa

Thats all you can think of?

Really?

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I posted it when I first found it, I was interested to see if anyone else had come across it before, like you had. I was researching it at the same time as posts were appearing here. It takes me a long time before I'll draw a conclusion, at the point when I posted it up it was just something interesting that I wanted to look into.

I do like to keep an open-mind and not immediately write these things off, as there would be a big reason for people to hide this information if it did exist.

I'm sure you're just trying to stimulate posts, and succeeding; well done
the next time you come across something that confirms your preconceptions and makes you go "eureka!" fire up the google and wikipedia first and see if it's just not some made up crap otherwise by spreading inaccurate shit you are just making the knowledge base of the world worse, not better.
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I don't know about that stuff, but here is some reality on Pike for ya-
http://dcpages.com/gallery/Albert_Pi...Washington_DC/
Pike is the only CONFEDERATE miltary figure to have a statue in Washington DC.

Why would a major pro slavery confederate general have a statue still standing in Washington?

He held the position of Sovereign Grand Commander in the southern Masonic Scottish Rite for many years and was considered a Freemason leader in the U.S.

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During his lifetime, Boston-born Pike was an author, educator, lawyer, Confederate brigadier general, newspaper editor, poet, and a Thirty-third Degree Mason. From its earliest roots in the Southern Rights Clubs in 1835, the Knights of the Golden Circle was to become the most powerful secret and subversive organization in the history of the United States with members in every state and territory before the end of the Civil War.
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fucking hilarious.

i enjoyed reading a few of your posts and got a chuckle out of your craziness and amazing ability to believe any stupid shit you come across but yeah, I think if I read many more of your posts ill end up retarded so I must stop.

this wasn't even good, i could make up far better stuff. you should look into the history of world war 1 and how it started, it really is very interesting and a total tragedy.

or go look up more fiction and remain ignorant. whatever.
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Better be very careful or you'll lose that reputation you have for "being proven right".
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I don't know about that stuff, but here is some reality on Pike for ya-
http://dcpages.com/gallery/Albert_Pi...Washington_DC/
Pike is the only CONFEDERATE miltary figure to have a statue in Washington DC.

Why would a major pro slavery confederate general have a statue still standing in Washington?

He held the position of Sovereign Grand Commander in the southern Masonic Scottish Rite for many years and was considered a Freemason leader in the U.S.



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look you can believe that pike did exist and even was a freemason but that does not validate the garbage that is often attributed to him.
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look you can believe that pike did exist and even was a freemason but that does not validate the garbage that is often attributed to him.
I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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my point is so what? he has a statute.
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I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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might as well state what you are trying to imply about pike.
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my point is so what? he has a statute.
statue.

a confederate slave owning general has a statue in washinton dc. that is so what.

the point is only the winners get statues...on their own home turf.

a theory is that Pike was a main player in the British plan to instigate a civil war while declaring their "neutrality."

yes another crazy conspiracy theory...

until you look at the facts-
1)Britain had far more invested in the south, commodities, exports-
2)The British publicly were "neutral" during the war.
3)The British built at least two major warships for the confederates for the civil war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain...ican_Civil_War
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The British ran blockades for the confederates during the civil war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockad...ican_Civil_War
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Great Britain played a major role on the blockade running business, as they had huge investments in the south and were the recipients of many commodities exported goods, especially cotton. To protect their interests British investors had engineered steamships that were longer, narrower and considerably faster than most of the conventional steamers guarding the American coastline, thus enabling them to out-maneuver and out-run Union ships on blockade patrol.
These vessels also served to import badly needed supplies, especially firearms, and also served to bring mail to and from the Confederacy."
So we know one thing, the British govt was flat out lying saying they were "neutral" during the Civil War.
The only reason they paid this lip service was to keep Lincoln from declaring war on Britain.

So once again, why would a losing confederate slave owning general have a statue erected in Washington DC?

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the statute was paid for by some freemasonic societies. he was a freemason. as were (and are) many of the professional / land owning classes then and now.

what is your point?

i guess you see it is proof of the illuminati and i see it proof he belonged to a fraternal order. that's where we differ. you get your ideas about the freemasons from crack pot christian and anti-semitic sources and i get mine from reality.

why don't you pop down to your local lodge today and talk to them. not like they are hiding.
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Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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listen man there is no point trying to argue about something i have to guess what i am arguing about. post your opinion, sources anything. you are like the paul markham of conspiracy theories.

i can bet i've read and studied more about the illuminati and freemasons than you, talked with more freemasons irl than you, so spare me the false dichotomy world view of "you the guy who sees through the matrix > me the sleepwalking fox news watching sheep" worldview you have.
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Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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No you're right. The Illuminati were a group of free thinkers or "enlightened ones" that met in secret to avoid religious persecution of their scientific ideas. They've been gone for hundreds of years. Glad you're finally coming around to reality!
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I'm sure you morons are good and confused about this one too so let me clarify for you.

"A new World order" = A global change.

"The New World Order" =

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That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?
and i don't think zionism because a 'reality' till the checkmate on the british
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and i don't think zionism because a 'reality' till the checkmate on the british
read some histories of zionism. laqueur's book is decent primer on the subject. or you can keep educating yourself with youtube videos.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:54 PM   #41
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Yay! More cut and paste without an opinion expressed! Awesome show! Great job!
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:01 PM   #42
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I call bullshit ... youtube wasn't around in 1871!!!

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The letter appeared on the scene in 1955 in a book by William Guy Carr (June 2, 1895 - October 2, 1959) named Pawns in the Game (1955). Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle

From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr
Well, if it is on wikipedia it has to be true.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:01 PM   #43
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"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism"

damn that sounds cool.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:12 PM   #44
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"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism"

damn that sounds cool.
Atheists are evil I guess?

All off this conspiracy is even more hilarious when the "goal" is apparently bringing "lucifer" to the earth.
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