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06-17-2012, 02:34 AM
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Where does one get non-exclusive content?
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06-17-2012, 05:24 AM
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 Every unseen scene by member X is exclusive to him. Yes you can build bigger bulk with non exclusive and in some niches huge bulk. Like hardcore, non exclusive is what a scene and what's the price of exclusive? However the question is far more complicated than exclusive v non exclusive. This is what Raymor said. "So try to stay away from saturated content." Yet if I shot exclusive for sponsors what can I create and ROI on it? $300 to $500 a scene = 5-9 sales at $60 non exclusive. To saturate a scene I have to sell it for years for a lot more. Yes we started at this price and now selling it off for $3,000 for the whole thing. Yes still selling it.  Exclusive sets are a one off sale. Forget about magazines. For us online sales were better than shooting non exclusive. And here we get to, eventually, the real truth and why the content is king.  If you're product is great and you apply the rules of MisterPeabody you'll get a better return. If you can apply the rules of MisterPeabody and do it well, you don't waste them on mediocre or poor or even average porn. Because a great salesman will always sell a great product, because it pays him better. In fact MisterPeabody looks at some content and immediately dismisses it, because he knows all his hard work won't put a shit on shit and remove the smell. |
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06-17-2012, 05:48 AM
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06-17-2012, 07:58 AM
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06-17-2012, 10:35 AM
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This is a pretty saturated market. I've always thought to do any good with a pay site you have to either do something that no one else is doing or else do it better than anyone else. Preferably both. With a none exclusive glamour site you'd be doing neither.
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06-17-2012, 11:20 PM
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The problem was always going to be the amount of money the owners had to put into the project and their talents. Hiring someone to produce something others couldn't do or better than what they could do was hard. Having those talents were very hard. Traditional pornographers saw online as a gamble, low payer and stuck with their better paying traditional market. Most of the new online guys talent was confined to the keyboard. So an arm of the porn industry became dominated by webmasters selling to webmasters. To get traffic to sites that didn't rate well in the eyes of porn buyers. Flame away and do it by disproving it. There were sites that were exceptions to the norm. MILF Hunter I was told was great, Perfect Gonzo, Alsscan, Bang Bus, Met-Art and a few more. 5% of the total number or less? What a keyboard warrior calls great and what a porn surfer calls great is rarely the same. How many had inhouse shooters in the senior structure and how many hired offline shooters to produce the product? The problem was the cost of producing a great product and what it was worth elsewhere. A string of non exclusive shooters, selling scenes for $100 to $200 a time say 10 to 20 times would of meant a lot of great sites. The saturated argument doesn't apply to the members area. Because if you keep buying the latest productions and there's enough people to buy from, there's no way the site get's saturated. An unseen set is exclusive to the viewer. Problem starts when sites want to but scenes for $50 and don't want them saturated. And they need fresh unseen content to give to affiliates for promoting on TGP sites. So they produced cheap non exclusive content that was something anyone could do and no better than most and made up for it by giving away tons of free content to drive 100,000s of surfers around online. That's people looking at porn online, not clicking on your banner. |
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