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Paul Markham · 12-12-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

but the fact you dont have any tube traffic, so you are just spewing BS.

its like someone giving you legal advice who isnt a laywer, but thinks he "knows" the law.

you may think you know, but until you actually have attempted to do it, you cant speak on the subject.

other than estimating, which is what you are doing.

Yes just estimating. So the conversions could be worse than I estimated. This I do know.

You say nothing, have nothing to say and can't prove shit.

So prove me wrong.

And in your signature you just link to another site as an affiliate. Never had to go that low. Unless you own the site you carry the banner for.

MrBottomTooth · 12-12-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Love it... Bernie Mac because she's black... huh, nice....

Ya, because she looks nothing like Bernie Mac at all.

She does look better on her hands and knees though.

Paul Markham · 12-12-2011, 02:22 PM

Fris, this is what he does.

https://twitter.com/iheartwordpress
fris
@iheartwordpress Toronto, Ontario
wordpress developer with a passion for jQuery, HTML5, CSS and SEO.

About fris

Location
Toronto
Adult Industry Role
Software Programming

Total Posts: 48,478
Posts Per Day: 14.25

MSN [email protected]
ICQ 704-299
Skype? fapkin

Tube site owner? Not on this evidence.

Affiliates, beside his signature? Not on this evidence.

Wordpress blogger? Could be on this evidence.

Yet another loser trying to think big? Could be on this evidence.

So Fris, do you do anything else. you can prove?

porno jewyou missed a few of my talents. Porn actor, porn shooter, charmer with the ladies, dress maker, costermonger, great lover,

I even trained the dog to smoke his own pipe.

Jakez · 12-12-2011, 02:36 PM

LOL he's still thinking that people need to have all their business in their signature for everyone on "GO FUCK YOURSELF" to critique so they can cause you trouble over something miniscule.

I must be on his ignore because of a simple disagreement with his views.

fris · 12-12-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes just estimating. So the conversions could be worse than I estimated. This I do know.

You say nothing, have nothing to say and can't prove shit.

So prove me wrong.

And in your signature you just link to another site as an affiliate. Never had to go that low. Unless you own the site you carry the banner for.

why dont you post some stats then for us to see on your tube traffic, last time I asked you to do this, you said something along the lines about google analytics doesnt track it.

fris · 12-12-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Fris, this is what he does.

https://twitter.com/iheartwordpress
fris
@iheartwordpress Toronto, Ontario
wordpress developer with a passion for jQuery, HTML5, CSS and SEO.

About fris

Location
Toronto
Adult Industry Role
Software Programming

Total Posts: 48,478
Posts Per Day: 14.25

MSN [email protected]
ICQ 704-299
Skype? fapkin

Tube site owner? Not on this evidence.

Affiliates, beside his signature? Not on this evidence.

Wordpress blogger? Could be on this evidence.

Yet another loser trying to think big? Could be on this evidence.

So Fris, do you do anything else. you can prove?

porno jewyou missed a few of my talents. Porn actor, porn shooter, charmer with the ladies, dress maker, costermonger, great lover,

I even trained the dog to smoke his own pipe.

So for a person to have tube traffic they have to list it in their sig, or avatar, or profile?

heh.

I have 6 twitter accounts btw.

Post some of your stats, and i will do the same.

ArsewithClass · 12-12-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

His name is an insult to any religion

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

and your models are an insult to any erection.

And this is why you're an insult to any religion......

Women are women, pornofuckhead! 'An insult to erections' funny comment, but very immature & pathetic considering they all get the guys hard that have worked with them

ArsewithClass · 12-12-2011, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Ya, because she looks nothing like Bernie Mac at all.

She does look better on her hands and knees though.

Ok, ok,... you got me there...

Paul Markham · 12-13-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

why dont you post some stats then for us to see on your tube traffic, last time I asked you to do this, you said something along the lines about google analytics doesnt track it.

You're wrong again. I did use Google analytics years ago and the stats came from there and my ccbill link tracking them. The traffic came in floods and the moment they realised they had to pay, it went back. Which is an indication of the 100,000s who want more free, but don't have any intention of paying.

Now you can argue that a link that says "Enjoy more of Paul Markham Teens." is misleading. But when 90% don't even stay long enough to look, you can assume they have no intention of paying.

You're all talk. I don't have a Tube, never been bothered to drive traffic as that's the job of affiliates. some had Tubes and conversion on views sucked. Now you can argue that black is white till the cows come home. But no one believes you. We all know the ratios on Tubes is terrible. The only thing that keeps them going is the high traffic consuming porn for free.

This is nothing new. Most of you clever guys have always said "Why should anyone buy, when there's so much free?". Or is that wrong, the consumer still buys when there has never been so much free. And all those wise people are wrong and you're right?

TGP were poor conversion rates. 1,000s of people downloading or browsing for free and 20% at best clicking on a banner. Then conversions were 1-100 to 1-500. Depending. There some sites that were better and a few worse. Those conversion rates were 99% to 99.8% lost buyers. Now if you think 20% clicking and 99% of visitors not buying is good. You're deluded.

Our difference f opinion is what I think is good and bad and what you think is good and bad. I have higher goals than you. You seem to settle for a low achievement level. Nothing wrong with that, if it's the best you can do and I assume it is. I see it as a fail and why I never bothered going into the paysite market in a big way. I had bigger fish to fry.

Maybe you can list the Tubes you own, the ads or samples you placed on Tubes and your paysite. With ratios.

DVTimes · 12-13-2011, 01:09 AM

Paul Markham for king

Paul Markham · 12-13-2011, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

And this is why you're an insult to any religion......

Women are women, pornofuckhead! 'An insult to erections' funny comment, but very immature & pathetic considering they all get the guys hard that have worked with them

You do know you're arguing with someone who isn't very bright, don't you?

Dirty F · 12-13-2011, 02:18 AM

theking · 12-13-2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You're wrong again. I did use Google analytics years ago and the stats came from there and my ccbill link tracking them. The traffic came in floods and the moment they realised they had to pay, it went back. Which is an indication of the 100,000s who want more free, but don't have any intention of paying.

Now you can argue that a link that says "Enjoy more of Paul Markham Teens." is misleading. But when 90% don't even stay long enough to look, you can assume they have no intention of paying.

You're all talk. I don't have a Tube, never been bothered to drive traffic as that's the job of affiliates. some had Tubes and conversion on views sucked. Now you can argue that black is white till the cows come home. But no one believes you. We all know the ratios on Tubes is terrible. The only thing that keeps them going is the high traffic consuming porn for free.

This is nothing new. Most of you clever guys have always said "Why should anyone buy, when there's so much free?". Or is that wrong, the consumer still buys when there has never been so much free. And all those wise people are wrong and you're right?

TGP were poor conversion rates. 1,000s of people downloading or browsing for free and 20% at best clicking on a banner. Then conversions were 1-100 to 1-500. Depending. There some sites that were better and a few worse. Those conversion rates were 99% to 99.8% lost buyers. Now if you think 20% clicking and 99% of visitors not buying is good. You're deluded.

Our difference f opinion is what I think is good and bad and what you think is good and bad. I have higher goals than you. You seem to settle for a low achievement level. Nothing wrong with that, if it's the best you can do and I assume it is. I see it as a fail and why I never bothered going into the paysite market in a big way. I had bigger fish to fry.

Maybe you can list the Tubes you own, the ads or samples you placed on Tubes and your paysite. With ratios.

Now you do not have any "fish to fry"...but yet you...for whatever your reasons...feel the need to tell those with "fish to fry"...how to fry their fish...as if you actually know how to fry fish. Or is it simply that you are just trolling for fish?

ArsewithClass · 12-13-2011, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You do know you're arguing with someone who isn't very bright, don't you?

Hey, who says I ain't trolling

fris · 12-13-2011, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You're wrong again. I did use Google analytics years ago and the stats came from there and my ccbill link tracking them. The traffic came in floods and the moment they realised they had to pay, it went back. Which is an indication of the 100,000s who want more free, but don't have any intention of paying.

Now you can argue that a link that says "Enjoy more of Paul Markham Teens." is misleading. But when 90% don't even stay long enough to look, you can assume they have no intention of paying.

You're all talk. I don't have a Tube, never been bothered to drive traffic as that's the job of affiliates. some had Tubes and conversion on views sucked. Now you can argue that black is white till the cows come home. But no one believes you. We all know the ratios on Tubes is terrible. The only thing that keeps them going is the high traffic consuming porn for free.

This is nothing new. Most of you clever guys have always said "Why should anyone buy, when there's so much free?". Or is that wrong, the consumer still buys when there has never been so much free. And all those wise people are wrong and you're right?

TGP were poor conversion rates. 1,000s of people downloading or browsing for free and 20% at best clicking on a banner. Then conversions were 1-100 to 1-500. Depending. There some sites that were better and a few worse. Those conversion rates were 99% to 99.8% lost buyers. Now if you think 20% clicking and 99% of visitors not buying is good. You're deluded.

Our difference f opinion is what I think is good and bad and what you think is good and bad. I have higher goals than you. You seem to settle for a low achievement level. Nothing wrong with that, if it's the best you can do and I assume it is. I see it as a fail and why I never bothered going into the paysite market in a big way. I had bigger fish to fry.

Maybe you can list the Tubes you own, the ads or samples you placed on Tubes and your paysite. With ratios.

like you said, you are estimating and guessing, not everyone does crappy with tube traffic.

saying "we all know traffic on tubes is terrible" is just your opinion, not fact, someone may do terrible , and some may do very well, all depends, if the tube in questions traffic is productive, or shit.

and to say you have higher goals, in what way, its not like you actively push any products but your own, im sure the avg joe makes more in affiliate sales than you do in content sales of stale content.

Paul Markham · 12-13-2011, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

like you said, you are estimating and guessing, not everyone does crappy with tube traffic.

saying "we all know traffic on tubes is terrible" is just your opinion, not fact, someone may do terrible , and some may do very well, all depends, if the tube in questions traffic is productive, or shit.

and to say you have higher goals, in what way, its not like you actively push any products but your own, im sure the avg joe makes more in affiliate sales than you do in content sales of stale content.

The only reason they do well is the high amount of traffic. Which for now makes up for the poor ratios.

It was fact that my experience with Tube traffic was that if 1,000s clicked a link. Eventually one would join. Yes they sent me 1,000s of clicks. Still proves ratios were crap. It was one of the top Tubes, also submitted a lot of samples to Tubes and found the same thing.

The average Joe, wouldn't be in business if he had done as little work as we had for the last 3 years. Eva had a car accident in July 2008, that came withing centimeters of taking her life. She was unable to work for 6 months. February 2009 I found out the lump on the side of my neck was a cancer tumor, one of 3. I was given a 20% chance of living and even then without a tongue. The cancer was in the base of my tongue and throat.

So we decided to close the business. I'm a registered invalid and without me driving the business it was pointless keeping it going. We just kept the stores and site open to take what ever money was there. 2009 was a great year profit wise, we had little costs. 2010 definitely showed a decrease, which had continued through 2011. Will probably shut up shop and sell the stores out at blow out prices sometime in 2012.

Please no sympathy, just showing you how little you know about me.

In 1977 I nearly went bankrupt and only came back to porn to earn money to pay off debts. 1980 onwards I was a very successful salesman selling entire installations of office furniture, a couple of years in the 6 figure area. Bought a two story apartment in London and put a lot of money into pensions. During my good years, I was a bit of a miser, no flash car, no big house, just putting money into things I knew would be sound.

Money which Eva and I can live off for the rest of my life for sure and probably hers. The money we took the last 3 years, has all been bunce = free money. Just more money and as everyone says "Don't leave money on the table."

The fact we're still taking money 3 years after effectively closing the business proves we weren't so stupid.

You're dead right, I never spent a lot of time pushing other people products. Do you have a clue what shooting for magazines involves and the profits that can be made from a single set?

Klen · 12-13-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You are too obsessed with kurgan

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Fris, this is what he does. https://twitter.com/iheartwordpress fris @iheartwordpress Toronto, Ontario wordpress developer with a passion for jQuery, HTML5, CSS and SEO. About fris Location Toronto Adult Industry Role Software Programming Total Posts: 48,478 Posts Per Day: 14.25 MSN [email protected] ICQ 704-299 Skype? fapkin Tube site owner? Not on this evidence. Affiliates, beside his signature? Not on this evidence. Wordpress blogger? Could be on this evidence. Yet another loser trying to think big? Could be on this evidence. So Fris, do you do anything else. you can prove? porno jewyou missed a few of my talents. Porn actor, porn shooter, charmer with the ladies, dress maker, costermonger, great lover, I even trained the dog to smoke his own pipe. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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