This book is not allowed in prisons, jails, or other institutions?

[Jakez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_48_Laws_of_Power

Buying this book for someone as a Christmas present (not in jail or prison) and noticed this in the eBay listing.



Intradasting...

[porno jew]

looks like it. but probably one of thousands banned.

[VikingMan]

Thanks for the post. I just ordered it. [oh shit, by posting this I realize if violated at least one of the laws of power]

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by *******

Thanks for the post. I just ordered it. [oh shit, by posting this I realize if violated at least one of the laws of power]

Lol, you won't be disappointed.

-1 power.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Lol, you won't be disappointed.

-1 power.

read the book years ago...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

read the book years ago...

Gonna leave us hanging like that ??

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

read the book years ago...

Same here. Good book.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Same here. Good book.

really ?

[fris]

why would they ban that?

[CaptainHowdy]

That sure is one criminally vulgar book ...

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

That sure is one criminally vulgar book ...

Criminally vulgar but most likely a summary of how the world will be ran forever.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Gonna leave us hanging like that ??

it's all about manipulation of others.... some is interesting... I use what I leaned in it mostly to see who is jerking me around... put it like this: it's been called the hip hop bible

[Emil]

Someone at a forum said it was "pure evil" so of course I downloaded the audiobook.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

it's all about manipulation of others.... some is interesting... I use what I leaned in it mostly to see who is jerking me around... put it like this: it's been called the hip hop bible

Has it been called that? I guess it could be lol. But it doesn't relate to or mention hip hop or music in any way of course (for those looking to read it).

Learned some things from it but mostly throughout reading it I noticed it just reinforced how I naturally think..

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Has it been called that? I guess it could be lol. But it doesn't relate to or mention hip hop or music in any way of course.

Learned some things from it but mostly throughout reading it I noticed it just reinforced how I naturally think..

I can others trying weird shit on me as well....

[Caligari]

A gem for sociopaths in all walks of life
Sociopaths in the news: Snooki reading 48 Laws of Power

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by porno jew

looks like it. but probably one of thousands banned.

Very true.

When I was inside, someone sent me a 'Photohop User' magazine... I wasn't allowed to have it, cause there was a feature in there on a 'comic book' plugin that made pics look like comic book art.

One of the MANY examples they used was of some guy dressed up as a 'Miner 49er' Old Wild West type character holding an 'Old West' 6 shooter... And 'Pictures of GUNS' were not allowed !

So I was not allowed the magazine ! I even went so far as to request that they simply ripped out that page, and allowed me to read the rest of what essentially was a training gude for photoshop techniques... But of course... NO...

They took great delight in throwing the entire magazine in the trash, while I watched...

I could understand it had someone sent me the latest issue of 'Guns & Ammo'... But photoshop? Oh Dear...

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Caligari

A gem for sociopaths in all walks of life
Sociopaths in the news: Snooki reading 48 Laws of Power

[Bladewire]

The Laws

1. Never outshine the master.
2. Never put too much trust in friends; learn how to use enemies.
3. Conceal your intentions.
4. Always say less than necessary.
5. So much depends on reputation. Guard it with your life.
6. Court attention at all costs.
7. Get others to do the work for you, but always take the credit.
8. Make other people come to you; use bait if necessary.
9. Win through your actions, never through argument.
10. Infection: avoid the unhappy and unlucky.
11. Learn to keep people dependent on you.
12. Use selective honesty and generosity to disarm your victim.
13. When asking for help, appeal to people's self-interests, never to their mercy or gratitude.
14. Pose as a friend, work as a spy.
15. Crush your enemy totally.
16. Use absence to increase respect and honor.
17. Keep others in suspended terror: cultivate an air of unpredictability.
18. Do not build fortresses to protect yourself. Isolation is dangerous.
19. Know who you're dealing with; do not offend the wrong person.
20. Do not commit to anyone.
21. Play a sucker to catch a sucker: play dumber than your mark.
22. Use the surrender tactic: transform weakness into power.
23. Concentrate your forces.
24. Play the perfect courtier.
25. Re-create yourself.
26. Keep your hands clean.
27. Play on people's need to believe to create a cultlike following.
28. Enter action with boldness.
29. Plan all the way to the end.
30. Make your accomplishments seem effortless.
31. Control the options: get others to play with the cards you deal.
32. Play to people's fantasies.
33. Discover each man's thumbscrew.
34. Be royal in your fashion: act like a king to be treated like one.
35. Master the art of timing.
36. Disdain things you cannot have: Ignoring them is the best revenge.
37. Create compelling spectacles
38. Think as you like but behave like others.
39. Stir up waters to catch fish.
40. Despise the free lunch.
41. Avoid stepping into a great man's shoes.
42. Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.
43. Work on the hearts and minds of others.
44. Disarm and infuriate with the mirror effect.
45. Preach the need for change, but never reform too much at once.
46. Never appear perfect.
47. Do not go past the mark you aimed for; in victory, learn when to stop.
48. Assume formlessness.

[SmokeyTheBear]

there was a killer in florida who killed a cop, it was brought up that he had the book in his cell that he ordered from amazon.

[shimmy2]

its a good book, been translated into ebonics by P ken



pimpology 48 laws of the game

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

there was a killer in florida who killed a cop, it was brought up that he had the book in his cell that he ordered from amazon.

Lol, killers are obviously crazy people with a lot on their mind and not much to do. The book is not going to make you a crazy killer, it doesn't even have anything to do with something like that.. more like a quick history lesson on the strategies of kings and such..

Originally Posted by shimmy2

its a good book, been translated into ebonics by P ken



pimpology 48 laws of the game

50 Cent also partnered up with Robert Green for a book. 50th Law Of Power, about fear. Not nearly as interesting as this one but eh..

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Jakez

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Jakez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_48_Laws_of_Power

Buying this book for someone as a Christmas present (not in jail or prison) and noticed this in the eBay listing.



Intradasting...

I was going to say, who gives a shit.. Cause people in prisons should have no rights, they were put there for a reason.... Then I thought about the pretty decent people that find themselves in prison for simple facts of 'non payment of parking tickets' or speeding.. something simple, maybe even manslaughter after knocking someone over, an accident which could have not been avoided... fraud, lots of reasons to be punished in prison, yet are law abiding & probably nice friendly people


Hmmm, very strange, but maybe because of the word 'power'?

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Hmmm, very strange, but maybe because of the word 'power'?

No man, it's because the book enables more sociopathic criminal behavior.

.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Caligari

No man, it's because the book enables more sociopathic criminal behavior.

.

Well yes, true, I was looking deeper into this that the obvious, as to be honest, this kind of book shouldn't be allowed on sale to the general public... criminals are released

[woj]

there is nothing wrong with that book, it sounds "evil", but it's far from it... it's not unlike "art of war", which too sounds "evil", but is actually quite educational....

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by woj

there is nothing wrong with that book, it sounds "evil", but it's far from it... it's not unlike "art of war", which too sounds "evil", but is actually quite educational....

perfect example.

.

[garce]

And the "Bible" is? ROFL.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Caligari

No man, it's because the book enables more sociopathic criminal behavior.

.

In prison the name of the book probably changes to :

"How to Manipulate other prisoners to commit more crime behind bars"

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by garce

And the "Bible" is? ROFL.

In the bible, it doesn't state

.Pose as a friend, work as a spy.
.Crush your enemy totally.
.Use absence to increase respect and honor.
.Keep others in suspended terror: cultivate an air of unpredictability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_48_Laws_of_Power

Wow, some of these laws to create power are pretty fucked up

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

In prison the name of the book probably changes to :

"How to Manipulate other prisoners to commit more crime behind bars"

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

In prison the name of the book probably changes to :

"How to Manipulate other prisoners to commit more crime behind bars"

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

In the bible, it doesn't state

.Pose as a friend, work as a spy.
.Crush your enemy totally.
.Use absence to increase respect and honor.
.Keep others in suspended terror: cultivate an air of unpredictability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_48_Laws_of_Power

Wow, some of these laws to create power are pretty fucked up

Well if it's good enough for Snooki....

Seriously though it's pretty twisted, perfect for any prison climate;)

.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

read the book years ago...

A few years back Brian gave me a copy of this book. (Thanks again Brian) Since then I've referred it only to 2 other people. 3XTom liked it so much he now has the audio version as well.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by fris

why would they ban that?

For the same reason that I would never have posted about it on GFY.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by woj

there is nothing wrong with that book, it sounds "evil", but it's far from it... it's not unlike "art of war", which too sounds "evil", but is actually quite educational....

I think we're on the same page here...

[jimmycooper]

I don't think the book is even the slightest bit evil. Most of it just reinforced my existing way of thinking and I think it's absolutely crazy that such a book could be banned whereas The Autobiography Of Malcolm X by noted sociopath Malcolm X is apparently quite popular.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

I don't think the book is even the slightest bit evil.

To quote Donald Sutherland: "I trust everyone. It's the devil inside them I don't trust."

I see it the same way with this book. It is what you make of it.

Edit: 45k mile post.

[Due]

Sounds like and interesting book to read. It made it to my wishlist :-)

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by AaronM

To quote Donald Sutherland: "I trust everyone. It's the devil inside them I don't trust."

I see it the same way with this book. It is what you make of it.

Edit: 45k mile post.

There are many places where a sociopath can find inspiration. Case in point. While Jules is fictional, the human element is real.

?The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. ?

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

I don't think the book is even the slightest bit evil.

What.... No way... It's completely insane.

Power comes from within... If you are happy, people can see it. This gives anyone a great power, it can over come any dark side.

Those that need to control other people are so weak & so evil

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Those that need to control other people are so weak & so evil

And people who think that this is what the book should be used for don't deserve to read it. Hence why it's not allowed in prisons.

I guess we know the kind of mentality you have now. Enjoy your half empty glass.

[3xTom]

Originally Posted by AaronM

A few years back Brian gave me a copy of this book. (Thanks again Brian) Since then I've referred it only to 2 other people. 3XTom liked it so much he now has the audio version as well.

Love It Thanks Aaron

[Fletch XXX]

Assume formlessness

[Sly]

Originally Posted by AaronM

And people who think that this is what the book should be used for don't deserve to read it. Hence why it's not allowed in prisons.

I guess we know the kind of mentality you have now. Enjoy your half empty glass.

I agree.

It's a fantastic book. If you choose to use the knowledge for evil purposes, that's on you.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

What.... No way... It's completely insane.

Power comes from within... If you are happy, people can see it. This gives anyone a great power, it can over come any dark side.

Those that need to control other people are so weak & so evil

The funny thing is, people who get into this kind of shit don't realize they are being manipulated into playing someone else's game, or their "perception" of the game.

"A sociopath knows the difference between right and wrong, they just don't care."

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[Sly]

Originally Posted by Caligari

The funny thing is, people who get into this kind of shit don't realize they are being manipulated into playing someone else's game, or their "perception" of the game.

"A sociopath knows the difference between right and wrong, they just don't care."

.

You often talk about others being manipulated and being sheep. Have you ever thought that you are a manipulated sheep as well, just a different color?

And your premise is wrong. You basically just described everything in life. People read books, take courses, attend seminars to learn a skill that somebody else knows based on what that person has learned. If you go to be a doctor, you are being "manipulated" by someone else's knowledge.

This book is essentially a psychology book based on experiences, tests, and history. Nowhere does it say "do this and this to get that." Instead, it shares anecdotes on how one person accomplished one thing, it broke down the path of the accomplishment, and encouraged the reader to create a similar goal but the reader would still need to find their own path.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Sly

You often talk about others being manipulated and being sheep. Have you ever thought that you are a manipulated sheep as well, just a different color?

And your premise is wrong. You basically just described everything in life. People read books, take courses, attend seminars to learn a skill that somebody else knows based on what that person has learned. If you go to be a doctor, you are being "manipulated" by someone else's knowledge.

This book is essentially a psychology book based on experiences, tests, and history. Nowhere does it say "do this and this to get that." Instead, it shares anecdotes on how one person accomplished one thing, it broke down the path of the accomplishment, and encouraged the reader to create a similar goal but the reader would still need to find their own path.

No premise here, just a fact. The reason this book is not allowed in prisons (and rightfully so) is that it nurtures and enables sociopathic criminal behavior.

You understand this is the reason, right?

After all, it is called "The 48 LAWS Of Power." Doesn't leave much room for interpretation does it?

At the end of a day it's just another so called "empowerment" book, but in my opinion, and an opinion shared by many, this book is more proof as to how geniuinely fucked up society is right now.

The ends justify the means, do whatever it takes, fuck your friends if that's what it takes.

The message is pretty twisted.

.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Caligari

No premise here, just a fact. The reason this book is not allowed in prisons (and rightfully so) is that it nurtures and enables sociopathic criminal behavior.

You understand this is the reason, right?

After all, it is called "The 48 LAWS Of Power." Doesn't leave much room for interpretation does it?

At the end of a day it's just another so called "empowerment" book, but in my opinion, and an opinion shared by many, this book is more proof as to how geniuinely fucked up society is right now.

The ends justify the means, do whatever it takes, fuck your friends if that's what it takes.

The message is pretty twisted.

.

Did you read the book? That's not even what the book is about.