I bet if .xxx was free for 1 day, you would use it no matter how much shit you say about it in posts

[marlboroack]

No reason to bitch.

You can't sit here and say you can make more with a lame .com rather than a .xxx. I just read a post from someone saying they can make more with a sldkfhsaldfhas.com rather than a brand name like fuckmybitches.xxx.

Business is business and every boy-cotter better be filthy fucking rich or gonna die soon.

I'm just sayin' Shit is pissin' me off! Grrr

[scottybuzz]

yeh thats kind of the point though isn't it, its not free, its 100$

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

yeh thats kind of the point though isn't it, its not free, its 100$

Exactly... it's not the .xxx name or name change that most are moaning about.... It's the money grabbing robbers that we don't want to feed!

Maybe if it was all the same costs, we, all webmasters & program owners would be ok with it

[Matyko]

1) wrong [at least for me]
2) would still have to pay for the renewals...so...NO thanks..

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Matyko

1) wrong [at least for me]
2) would still have to pay for the renewals...so...NO thanks..

Yeah, they would probably still stitch everyone on renewals

[DJ.NiCO]

Is .xxx more expensive than .com?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

yeh thats kind of the point though isn't it, its not free, its 100$

And? Seriously... ??? If you are making bank, what is a $100?

$10,000 ? Yeah, could be a problem, but if you are EARNING... Then you able to take $100 with the same pinch of salt as a $10.00 domain.... ???

So... What is the problem???

Buy .XXX or Dont ? I fall to see the issue??? SERIOUSLY

(And if anyone doubts my seriousness of this post... Think of it THIS way...)

I didn't mention POO once !

First time 4 all ! Woot Woot

[marlboroack]

Dudes. I agree with you on them being cock hungry money hungry mother fuckers.. But, available names are hard to get. People spend 100's of thousands of dollars on .com domain owners... 100$ isn't shit.

In my opinion and from my point of view as being a real time webmaster is when i budget my spending's on my business on any product ( Domains, Tracking Softwares, plug ins, hosting etc ) I tend to fail and work harder to buy what i need again when i buy the cheap shit i think i can make due with.. So to keep it short and understanding cause i don't explain shit in the right words. I always get better results when i spend that extra amount..

In any industry, if it is your main business you have the cash to invest. Either it being to reserve a business name that you have registered all your domains in. Example you own fling.com, they have the .com .net .in you name it registered.. Why? To protect their fucking title as an industry leader. That or some low life bastard is chillin' waiting for it to hit the right price.

1.99 or 70,000$ it doesn't fuckin' matter. I want to sit down with these bastards and see their point of view about the haters to get the real deal. Now the way they show me respect as their client or future client is how we should judge their thinking and ways.

How do i get a .xxx teeshirt?

PS. 80% of the .xxx haters are cam and dating WL domains with very little traffic and spending money. Your doing something wrong. I'm jus sayin'

[femdomdestiny]

Why you are watching from your perspective? we are not same people. I wouldn't take it for free-

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Why you are watching from your perspective? we are not same people. I wouldn't take it for free-

I'm not trying to be cocky. But tell me why.

So you are telling me, if .xxx said i will grant you permission to register 1 .xxx name for free. You would tell them to fuck off rather than register your most profitable domain names you own today or perhaps work on a better name you had but couldn't afford the .com or it was taken already. You can't sit here and tell me you have some good names saved in the back of your head.

Dude your a webmaster, i really want to know why. Cause i have done a lot of research on this shit dude.. I just don't understand why haters gonna hate yo.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

And? Seriously... ??? If you are making bank, what is a $100?

$10,000 ? Yeah, could be a problem, but if you are EARNING... Then you able to take $100 with the same pinch of salt as a $10.00 domain.... ???

So... What is the problem???

Buy .XXX or Dont ? I fall to see the issue??? SERIOUSLY

(And if anyone doubts my seriousness of this post... Think of it THIS way...)

I didn't mention POO once !

First time 4 all ! Woot Woot

So... What is the problem???

For those bitching about the price, it's probably because they can't afford it. We have 6-7 that are of any use to us. Probably only 4 that really need a legislated .xxx. $400 a year. We paid a girl $500 bucks for 6 hours work.

Seriously who can't afford that? We can and as Frank F, Damian, PJ and countless other knowledgeable people point out we're broke. Or maybe it's that they're broke and scratching their heads how I'm not.

As for the ethical question. Are the guys in online porn serious or just having a laugh?

This is the truth. if a .xxx site has 20 million hits a day, lots of the anti guys will be lining up to buy the traffic or get their samples/ads onto the site. Enough do it on piracy sites, so anyone who disagrees is clearly dumber than me.

for the record I oppose it, because I oppose everything. And I use to think it would never survive, because so many in porn are broke. I now realise a lot of registrations will be from non porn people protecting their name or brand. So 50/50 on it's long term prospects.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

I'm not trying to be cocky. But tell me why.

So you are telling me, if .xxx said i will grant you permission to register 1 .xxx name for free. You would tell them to fuck off rather than register your most profitable domain names you own today or perhaps work on a better name you had but couldn't afford the .com or it was taken already. You can't sit here and tell me you have some good names saved in the back of your head.

Dude your a webmaster, i really want to know why. Cause i have done a lot of research on this shit dude.. I just don't understand why haters gonna hate yo.

Let me explain you in short (I need to go out): If most people are opposing to something with good reason why I would go against them for my selfish needs? Tubes are also making good money for some people, but for most, they ruined conversions.Regardinbg my opinion, we need solidarity at fists place against things that will harm as long term.

[cherrylula]

Just wait til they toss out some coupon codes for .xxx....

[MrCain]

In the real world, dotxxx is not free. Even if it were free, you would still risk to lose the money you spent developing your site. To use a .xxx domain, you have to agree to follow IFFOR rules. ICM Registry has already lied in the past and they have already changed the rules for their own profit. First they said defensive pre-orders would not be used as an endorsement. Later they changed their mind and used the defensive pre-orders as proof of support. What is stopping a company that has already lied in the past from doing the same thing again? What is stopping ICM Registry from changing the rules once again? What is stopping them from forcing their own payment system onto .xxx domain owners? I am sure they will come up with a nice excuse such as "our payment system is better at protecting the children".

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by MrCain

In the real world, dotxxx is not free. Even if it were free, you would still risk to lose the money you spent developing your site. To use a .xxx domain, you have to agree to follow IFFOR rules. ICM Registry has already lied in the past and they have already changed the rules for their own profit. First they said defensive pre-orders would not be used as an endorsement. Later they changed their mind and used the defensive pre-orders as proof of support. What is stopping a company that has already lied in the past from doing the same thing again? What is stopping ICM Registry from changing the rules once again? What is stopping them from forcing their own payment system onto .xxx domain owners? I am sure they will come up with a nice excuse such as "our payment system is better at protecting the children".

You do have a point.

[CaptainHowdy]

[Failed]

Originally Posted by MrCain

In the real world, dotxxx is not free. Even if it were free, you would still risk to lose the money you spent developing your site. To use a .xxx domain, you have to agree to follow IFFOR rules. ICM Registry has already lied in the past and they have already changed the rules for their own profit. First they said defensive pre-orders would not be used as an endorsement. Later they changed their mind and used the defensive pre-orders as proof of support. What is stopping a company that has already lied in the past from doing the same thing again? What is stopping ICM Registry from changing the rules once again? What is stopping them from forcing their own payment system onto .xxx domain owners? I am sure they will come up with a nice excuse such as "our payment system is better at protecting the children".

What I don't understand about arguments such as this, is .com and other tlds have restrictions, and rules, as well. We've already seen the justice department confiscate domains, and even servers for that matter. With the new bills that are going to be hitting congress, we have no idea how .com will change. If we post a video of girl dancing to some background music, will they take our .com? What future bills will hit congress and effect the way we operate .coms? At this point, .xxx is at the very least looking like a safe bet against any .com changes that may come.

[SomeCreep]

People foolish enough to waste their time developing a .xxx will get exactly what they deserve. Their traffic will be blocked by isps and internet filters. They will get much less traffic than if they would have built the exact same site on a .com.

[porno jew]

fake player retard.

[MrCain]

Originally Posted by Failed

What I don't understand about arguments such as this, is .com and other tlds have restrictions, and rules, as well. We've already seen the justice department confiscate domains, and even servers for that matter. With the new bills that are going to be hitting congress, we have no idea how .com will change. If we post a video of girl dancing to some background music, will they take our .com? What future bills will hit congress and effect the way we operate .coms? At this point, .xxx is at the very least looking like a safe bet against any .com changes that may come.

New laws will affect all tlds and hosting companies the US government has any influence over, that includes .xxx. Dotxxx is not safer than .com in that regard. On the contrary, while .com is subject to laws made by the US government, the .xxx tld is subject to the rules made by IFFOR and ICM Registry in addition to being subject to US laws.

[InfoGuy]

I wouldn't register a .XXX even if they gave me $1,000 to take one. Fuck ICM Registry and those who support them.

The main point with .XXX ISN'T the $100 price that they want for a registration. The primary problem is ICM Registry's IFFOR potentially regulating the entire industry and pushing through legislation making .XXX mandatory for every entity operating an adult site. Anyone who has been in the business for even a short amount of time should comprehend the simple idea that their existing traffic is a direct result of past branding, inbound link building / SEO and bookmarks. Do you think stakeholders with established sites want to waste money and effort rebranding their sites, asking people to change links and rewatermark all their content with a different URL? As a webmaster, would you happily change thousands upon thousands of links to your sponsors, if .XXX gets forced down your throat?

Wake up! As others above have stated, ICM Registry has lied on multiple occasions. They simply cannot be trusted, should be viewed as as enemy offering a trojan horse and perceived as a real threat to your future business.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

I wouldn't register a .XXX even if they gave me $1,000 to take one. Fuck ICM Registry and those who support them.

A serious, honest question. How can someone in this industry not do business with someone who supports .xxx? We would have to eliminate ties with registrars, hosts, sponsors, billing companies, webmasters, and even those in the mainstream who purchased domains to protect their brands. We would have to shut off our computers, and never do business online or off again.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by MrCain

New laws will affect all tlds and hosting companies the US government has any influence over, that includes .xxx. Dotxxx is not safer than .com in that regard. On the contrary, while .com is subject to laws made by the US government, the .xxx tld is subject to the rules made by IFFOR and ICM Registry in addition to being subject to US laws.

Thank you for the correction. I had thought .xxx wasn't subject to the same regulations that .com is subject to.

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

Just wait til they toss out some coupon codes for .xxx....

There you go .xxx loving boyz $15 off code (SPL15)
http://www.buy.xxx/spl15

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Failed

A serious, honest question. How can someone in this industry not do business with someone who supports .xxx? We would have to eliminate ties with registrars, hosts, sponsors, billing companies, webmasters, and even those in the mainstream who purchased domains to protect their brands. We would have to shut off our computers, and never do business online or off again.

What they say here and what they do, is not always the same.

If a .xxx Tube site gets big, enough will be buying traffic off it.

These online crusaders, will send people to scam sites, card rippers, cross sellers, dating sites with very few girls on, will advertise on piracy sites, give free video clips to piracy sites, some own piracy sites. The ethics of porn were never that high, online porn brought them down further.

The future will tell us all.

I've seen too many scared webmasters to take notice of them now.

[Jakez]

Would I take one free? Sure I don't give a damn. Pay $100 for someone to have me by the balls? No sir.

[Operator]

Looks like we are up to the task of some publicity being bad publicity

[Barry-xlovecam]

The cost of registering a .xxx domain name is very secondary and only a small cost of the injury -- there are much greater political costs that may be paid over this ...

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Dudes. I agree with you on them being cock hungry money hungry mother fuckers.. But, available names are hard to get. People spend 100's of thousands of dollars on .com domain owners... 100$ isn't shit.

In my opinion and from my point of view as being a real time webmaster is when i budget my spending's on my business on any product ( Domains, Tracking Softwares, plug ins, hosting etc ) I tend to fail and work harder to buy what i need again when i buy the cheap shit i think i can make due with.. So to keep it short and understanding cause i don't explain shit in the right words. I always get better results when i spend that extra amount..

In any industry, if it is your main business you have the cash to invest. Either it being to reserve a business name that you have registered all your domains in. Example you own fling.com, they have the .com .net .in you name it registered.. Why? To protect their fucking title as an industry leader. That or some low life bastard is chillin' waiting for it to hit the right price.

1.99 or 70,000$ it doesn't fuckin' matter. I want to sit down with these bastards and see their point of view about the haters to get the real deal. Now the way they show me respect as their client or future client is how we should judge their thinking and ways.

How do i get a .xxx teeshirt?

PS. 80% of the .xxx haters are cam and dating WL domains with very little traffic and spending money. Your doing something wrong. I'm jus sayin'

Ask away. And I can probably arrange for a teeshirt.

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by MrCain

In the real world, dotxxx is not free. Even if it were free, you would still risk to lose the money you spent developing your site. To use a .xxx domain, you have to agree to follow IFFOR rules. ICM Registry has already lied in the past and they have already changed the rules for their own profit. First they said defensive pre-orders would not be used as an endorsement. Later they changed their mind and used the defensive pre-orders as proof of support. What is stopping a company that has already lied in the past from doing the same thing again? What is stopping ICM Registry from changing the rules once again? What is stopping them from forcing their own payment system onto .xxx domain owners? I am sure they will come up with a nice excuse such as "our payment system is better at protecting the children".

I MUST step in here and correct another myth that has grown legs. Support was decided on June 1, 2005, and there was a judicial review on that point. Pre-reservations didn't begin until nearly a year later, in May of 2006.No mind changing, no lying.
And with regard to the entire process, ICM Registry didn't make the rules. ICANN did. We met all of the requirements, and are currently under contract to operate .XXX.

Yes - we have a micropayment system in development because we're committed to providing tools and technologies for the industry to do its business in the way that is most profitable to them. No - we aren't going to force anyone to use it. Yes, we really believe that both .XXX domain owners and consumers will want and choose to use it alongside their existing payment mechanisms, because it will offer the chance to bill the currently "unbillable" and will be backed by recognized financial institutions that are household names in addition to bringing mainstream advertisers indirectly into Adult for the first time, which has to make more money for Webmasters. After all, porn surfers drink beer, and buy cars, too.

[epitome]

I don't care about the $100 if I make my money back.

I care about the 10% being funneled to IFFOR, an organization that may end up working against the best interests of the industry.

I also have issues with the terms of the purchase giving ICM the right to do whatever they want with no recourse from the buyer since ICM protects themselves against suits.

It is a matter of principles. I know many of you are short sighted and lack them but that doesn't mean everybody does.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

Yes, we really believe that both .XXX domain owners and consumers will want and choose to use it alongside their existing payment mechanisms, because it will offer the chance to bill the currently "unbillable" and will be backed by recognized financial institutions that are household names in addition to bringing mainstream advertisers indirectly into Adult for the first time, which has to make more money for Webmasters. After all, porn surfers drink beer, and buy cars, too.

You see the problem is when you start trying to bullshit a business that's been bullshitting for a long time and better than you at it.

Why should consumers choose it. They follow links, rarely do they choose the name, let alone the TLD. The whole job of online porn is to sell the link. no one cares about a TLD.

Why do you think it will be such a great thing for the owners of .xx domains?

Why should a site be billable because it has a .xxx TLD?

So mainstream advertisers will choose to advertise on a site with ass banging teens, because it has a .xxx TLD? If this were true you would be charging $1,000 a TLD and they would be selling like hot cakes.

You make claims, with nothing to back it up. So in good company here, you should feel at home with the other bullshitters.

[PornMD]

$100 ain't shit - unless you wanted to build 100 sites. Then yea, it kind of is shit.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

Ask away. And I can probably arrange for a teeshirt.

I sent you an email about that teeshirt!

[DotXXX]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

I sent you an email about that teeshirt!

Back at ya.

[RonTheDon]

After reading post after post on this topic, I'm starting to get the feeling that a lot of people are just jumping on the hatred bandwagon.

Could the domain names be cheaper? Probably. Do I agree with the price? Not exactly. Did I buy some .xxx? Yes. Am I developing on them? Yes. Do I deserve what's coming to me? Probably - and whatever it is, such is life. Business is business, regardless of what vertical it maybe; adult, fast food or scooping poop.

Every business owner should understand the risk of any venture they get involved in, if they don't, what can you do?

Aside from trademark, price and the attitude or business tactics of the .xxx TLD, what are some other concerns?

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by DotXXX

I MUST step in here and correct another myth that has grown legs. Support was decided on June 1, 2005, and there was a judicial review on that point. Pre-reservations didn't begin until nearly a year later, in May of 2006.No mind changing, no lying.
And with regard to the entire process, ICM Registry didn't make the rules. ICANN did. We met all of the requirements, and are currently under contract to operate .XXX.

Yes - we have a micropayment system in development because we're committed to providing tools and technologies for the industry to do its business in the way that is most profitable to them. No - we aren't going to force anyone to use it. Yes, we really believe that both .XXX domain owners and consumers will want and choose to use it alongside their existing payment mechanisms, because it will offer the chance to bill the currently "unbillable" and will be backed by recognized financial institutions that are household names in addition to bringing mainstream advertisers indirectly into Adult for the first time, which has to make more money for Webmasters. After all, porn surfers drink beer, and buy cars, too.

will your billing support and handle affiliate payouts?

[fuzebox]

This thread makes no sense.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

This thread makes no sense.

Cause you touch yourself

[potter]

Yeah, you couldn't pay me to take a .xxx - not because any of the bullshit associated with it but simply because if it's not a .com I don't really give a fuck. And you can go through the thousands of posts I've had in the past 6+ years - every single one of them on domains has stated the same thing.

[Mr Pheer]

I've got over 600 domains, I dont see the need to buy more regardless of .com .net .xxx whatever

[Operator]

Less enthusiastic daily no doubt too, I remember having several thousand .com

[Denny]

Wrong.