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gideongallery · 01-04-2012, 04:53 AM

scratch sony and microsoft off the list

Paul Markham · 01-04-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Yea, myself. I've done more for myself than my government ever has. In fact, they have done NOTHING for me, other than take my taxes and try to tell me how to live my life. I don't want anything from them, never have, never will. Trust them is the last thing I would ever do.

You are so very very wrong, in what you post and your attitude.

Who do you think gave you the Internet, police, roads, stops 10 million Mexicans invading the US, ensures planes are safe to fly on, cars are safe to drive in, drugs are safe to take, if you have an accident where ever you are someone will come and pick you up and take you to the hospital, puts out fires in your house or fires what might burn it down, clears the roads of snow, repairs the roads, looks after the forest and wilderness areas, is trying to stop piracy because no one else will do it and so many other things it's impossible to list them all.

Life would be a lot worse without a Governing body at the top. Now that Governing body can be Obama and Washington or the Generals like in Burma or Syria or The USSR and a Stalin type.

Don't think you can get by on your own. You can't. You need Big Brother to make sure Bigger assholes don't fuck with you.

No Government is perfect, if you want perfection. Buy an island and build it yourself. Government is all you have so be thankful.

Cherry7 · 01-04-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You are so very very wrong, in what you post and your attitude.

Who do you think gave you the Internet, police, roads, stops 10 million Mexicans invading the US, ensures planes are safe to fly on, cars are safe to drive in, drugs are safe to take, if you have an accident where ever you are someone will come and pick you up and take you to the hospital, puts out fires in your house or fires what might burn it down, clears the roads of snow, repairs the roads, looks after the forest and wilderness areas, is trying to stop piracy because no one else will do it and so many other things it's impossible to list them all.

Life would be a lot worse without a Governing body at the top. Now that Governing body can be Obama and Washington or the Generals like in Burma or Syria or The USSR and a Stalin type.

Don't think you can get by on your own. You can't. You need Big Brother to make sure Bigger assholes don't fuck with you.

No Government is perfect, if you want perfection. Buy an island and build it yourself. Government is all you have so be thankful.

Oh My God! I agree with you.....

Paul Markham · 01-04-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

you don't understand the concept of free speech do you old man

i don't have to be asked, i have a right to say what i want

Yes you have the right to say it. It doesn't mean they will listen.

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and when i and other free speech advocates ask you how many totally innocent sites do have thr right to destroy before you face the same consequences as the pirates how are actually damaging you.

and you say as many as i want.

People realize how unfair the law is and it won't pass.

if it does pass then the effected foriegn countries which need to protect their INNOCENT will add the penalty to their own laws.

What the US going to do close it borders to the world for every good and service. Say we won't buy oil from canada until you give us the right to destroy as many INNOCENT canadian companies as we want.

Well lets wait and see if that happens, because it's not what the law says.

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so if they respond to every email, they get sued by the "falsely accused" pirates when they make a mistake

and if they don't they have to go to court to prove that the copyright holders request is unreasonable.

And because the process is not absolutely clear, they got to hope that a judge doesn't get suckered by a fast talking lawyer.

And even if they do win, all the copyright holder is on the hook for is what the wronged isp can prove ABSOLUTELY is the damages they suffered, which is basically only court fees, no lost profits, no pain and suffering, no statutory damages.

This is the bullshit your trying to argue is fair.

When did you pass the bar?

Because you're understanding of the law isn't very good. This is bullshit your trying to argue. But then you're an idiot who probably posts here to annoy people and build the post count. So you're doing a good job.

Arguing with you is as pointless as you offering advice on what the penalties should be. Lets wait and see. When it passes I will ask you what were you worried about and you'll make some dumb reply that will be meaningless. So I will waste me time again. Bye till then.

Paul Markham · 01-04-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Oh My God! I agree with you.....

A lot of Americans have the pioneer spirit. Or so they think. Well actually they delude themselves they have it and it was all rosy back in the days of the great pioneers. The truth of those times would shock them.

They wouldn't of lasted a week. Unless born into that time. Still it's nice to put on your cowboy gun holster, boots and hat. Then dream you're a Jesse James or Daniele Bowie type.

DWB · 01-04-2012, 09:13 AM

Paul, don't confuse my comments on not trusting governments with thinking we shouldn't have them. Of course we should have them, but only a fool would trust them.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Who do you think gave you the Internet, police, roads, stops 10 million Mexicans invading the US, ensures planes are safe to fly on, cars are safe to drive in, drugs are safe to take, if you have an accident where ever you are someone will come and pick you up and take you to the hospital, puts out fires in your house or fires what might burn it down, clears the roads of snow, repairs the roads, looks after the forest and wilderness areas, is trying to stop piracy because no one else will do it and so many other things it's impossible to list them all.

Most of which is paid for with our taxes. They don't do this out of the kindness of their hearts.

I no longer live in the USA and use none of their services. Zero. Ziltch. Nada. I've been on my own for the past 10 years with no problems, and plan to be on my own until the day I die. I don't want or need their help. Yet, they still demand I pay taxes to them. So if nothing else, they only take from me, not give.

"Safe drugs" and all that other nonsense, is exactly that, nonsense. I don't know about your government, but mine is bought and paid for by corporations. The corporations decide what drugs are "safe" and which ones are not. And those that are not, they ship to Africa and SE Asia to poison people who's government is also corrupt.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Life would be a lot worse without a Governing body at the top. Now that Governing body can be Obama and Washington or the Generals like in Burma or Syria or The USSR and a Stalin type.

I didn't say the world should be without them. I said I don't trust them and personally don't rely on them, nor want to. The more they leave people alone, the better.

Sure, if African gangs were cutting off arms of people who wanted to vote for Ron Paul, let the gov step it and clean it up. But that doesn't mean I should trust them, they are just doing what they are supposed to do, and it's paid for partly with my money.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Don't think you can get by on your own. You can't. You need Big Brother to make sure Bigger assholes don't fuck with you.

Again, I didn't say the world shouldn't have them.

I don't need big brother to take care of me. I don't live in Somalia. But even if I did, I'm just not the type of person who would rely on someone else to help me. I'm not the guy they are going to have to rescue from his rooftop after a flood. I'm the guy who took the warning and got the hell out of dodge.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No Government is perfect, if you want perfection. Buy an island and build it yourself.

I've been an expat a long time with no complaints. If I had the cash to buy an island, I would. I'd call it Barebackistan.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Government is all you have so be thankful.

You an old Nazi or something?

The government is not all you have. The government will shit on you. Your health, family, and friends are all you have, and even those can shit on you.

Maybe because you're older and depend on your government to take care of you, you see things differently, but I ask nothing from mine, nor will I ever, even in my old age. Let me be and I will take care of myself. But in the event something tragic happens, like Burma invades and rebels are shooting up my city, the US will use those tax dollars I have been giving them all my life to maybe assist in getting me out of here. But truth be told, by the time they got their shit together I would be long gone.

Thanks for the internet, paved roads, and my passport, but please leave me alone.

DWB · 01-04-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A lot of Americans have the pioneer spirit. Or so they think. Well actually they delude themselves they have it and it was all rosy back in the days of the great pioneers. The truth of those times would shock them.

They wouldn't of lasted a week. Unless born into that time. Still it's nice to put on your cowboy gun holster, boots and hat. Then dream you're a Jesse James or Daniele Bowie type.

Why do we have to be able to survive a Jesse James shoot out in order to be self sufficient, free people?

You are right, a lot of Americans do have the pioneer spirit, and that is exactly why there is but only one flag flying on the moon.

pimpmaster9000 · 01-04-2012, 12:36 PM

I think SOPA will change a lot for the better. Just like Spam filters make e-mail better. Sure it does not block 100% of the SPAM but it costs the spammers plenty in potential revenue that is lost. Sure there will be a few successful spamers/pirates here and there but the "golden days" of "Free speech" errrr i mean "stealing other peoples stuff and making $$" will be gone.

The key part is that they can block traffic to the USA and attack them where it hurts: payment processing.
Other countries will adopt their own SOPA as well, Spain for example has just passed such a law. Blocking the pirates from the US and Europe is a serious attack on their financial capabilities.

I don't agree with people who are saying "people are now used to getting porn for free" this is not true.
I know people will pay for content once they HAVE to. We had NO tax in our country now we pay. We had free Schooling now we pay. We had free health care now we pay. We had no VAT now we have 18%. We used to buy knock off "brand name" clothing now they are gone and replaced by real goods.

Sure there will be a few tech savvy geeks who will find some underground site, but the vast majority of regular joes will go back to paying. Its not like membership to a website costs 1000000$ or anything...the regular 30-40$ membership fee is not much to many people. People will want fresh HD content and all the tubes have to offer is recycled 5 min clips that are not getting any newer.

Content costs money and the "steal it for free" business model will come to an end one way or the other in the civilized world. The civilized world is 90% of the market for porn.

Just my

stever · 01-04-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Cherry7 · 01-04-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Why do we have to be able to survive a Jesse James shoot out in order to be self sufficient, free people?

You are right, a lot of Americans do have the pioneer spirit, and that is exactly why there is but only one flag flying on the moon.

First Sputnik USSR
First Animal into Space USSR
First Man into Space USSR
First Woman into Space USSR
Longest Space Flight USSR
Space Station USSR
First Space Walk USSR
First Civilian USSR
First Sputnik to the Moon USSR
First Sputnik to darl side of the Moon USSR

What conclusion should we draw from that?

Eroberlin · 01-09-2012, 03:34 PM

Piracy must STOP and we must reduce free content !!

No money - no girls - no new content.

http://www.eroberlin.com/de/model/3/Anastasia%20Petrova

DamianJ · 01-09-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

First Sputnik USSR
First Animal into Space USSR
First Man into Space USSR
First Woman into Space USSR
Longest Space Flight USSR
Space Station USSR
First Space Walk USSR
First Civilian USSR
First Sputnik to the Moon USSR
First Sputnik to darl side of the Moon USSR

What conclusion should we draw from that?

I for one, welcome our new Russian overlords.

01-04-2012, 04:53 AM	#151
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01-04-2012, 12:36 PM	#158
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	I think SOPA will change a lot for the better. Just like Spam filters make e-mail better. Sure it does not block 100% of the SPAM but it costs the spammers plenty in potential revenue that is lost. Sure there will be a few successful spamers/pirates here and there but the "golden days" of "Free speech" errrr i mean "stealing other peoples stuff and making $$" will be gone. The key part is that they can block traffic to the USA and attack them where it hurts: payment processing. Other countries will adopt their own SOPA as well, Spain for example has just passed such a law. Blocking the pirates from the US and Europe is a serious attack on their financial capabilities. I don't agree with people who are saying "people are now used to getting porn for free" this is not true. I know people will pay for content once they HAVE to. We had NO tax in our country now we pay. We had free Schooling now we pay. We had free health care now we pay. We had no VAT now we have 18%. We used to buy knock off "brand name" clothing now they are gone and replaced by real goods. Sure there will be a few tech savvy geeks who will find some underground site, but the vast majority of regular joes will go back to paying. Its not like membership to a website costs 1000000$ or anything...the regular 30-40$ membership fee is not much to many people. People will want fresh HD content and all the tubes have to offer is recycled 5 min clips that are not getting any newer. Content costs money and the "steal it for free" business model will come to an end one way or the other in the civilized world. The civilized world is 90% of the market for porn. Just my