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Old 01-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #1
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Caught my neighbor taunting my dogs

So today I come home from my office and let my dogs out back. They bolted to the side of the house and are going absolutely nuts. I normally don't go back on that side because there is a big tree between the fence and the house. So I make my way back there and my german pincher/beagle looks like he's about to tear someones face off. I've NEVER seen him like that before.

I walk up to him and grab his collar and see through a gap in the fence, my neighbor wearing a face mask, face inches away from the hole, shaking the fence while growling. He was so caught up in the moment that he didn't realize that I was standing there. He finally looks up and walks away. My wife comes home and I look out the front door and see the bastard cleaning leaves in the front of his house. I tell my wife what happens and that I'm going to confront him.

I go in front of his house, get his attention and he comes over to me. I simply say, "Hi - if you have a problem with my dogs or anything else concerning my property or my family, please feel free to come knock on my door and let me know. He said, "Okay." I then ask him if he feels like things are so bad that he can't come talk to his neighbor. He starts mumbling and I ask how old he is, he says he's 83 years old. Then I ask, "Don't you think in the 83 years of your life, you might have learned that it's okay to be friendly to your neighbors?"

Anyway - the old man told me he was very embarrassed that I caught him doing it and that now that I've caught him doing it, he realizes that it was a childish thing to do.

He called animal control on us when we first moved in because my dog was barking one afternoon, not breaking any city ordnance. Now that I see what he was doing, it makes me think that he's been doing it a lot more, making my dog look/act aggressive. I fear that if my dog gets out and sees him, he's going to bite his fucking face off.



Sorry for the rant, but what would you guys do?
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Leave the old man alone, he's just having some fun
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Sounds like a good conversation you had. I don't know if I would have handled it as well as you did. Hopefully he's ashamed of himself enough that he'll stop.

That said, I'm a big fan of security cameras with motion detection. Of course I'm kind of a fan of security anything. That's kind of my thing.
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It seems to be straightened out, I doubt he will bother them anymore since he got busted.
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While the situation at hand might not be so amusing to you, I'd be pretty happy if at 83 years old I am light hearted enough to troll my neighbor's dogs wearing a face mask.
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Sounds like a good conversation you had. I don't know if I would have handled it as well as you did. Hopefully he's ashamed of himself enough that he'll stop.

That said, I'm a big fan of security cameras with motion detection. Of course I'm kind of a fan of security anything. That's kind of my thing.
what indoor security camera system do you recommend, looking for something easy to install and cost effective. Basically watch my place online or from my cell phone, thanks
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Fun or not, people shouldn't do that, especially to dogs. My dog, for instance, is very friendly, people person and loving. Now that this old man has taunted him, my dog probably sees him as a threat now.

What if my dog got out, saw the old man and attacked him? It pisses me off because you hear of these types of stories all the time, where the friendly dog attacks a kid.

The conversation I had with him was necessary. It probably would have been a different conversation if he wasn't so old. I just brought it up again to my wife and told her that I feel bad in a way because it was like I was scolding one of my kids... She said he's probably just feeling isolated, hermit-like; a lot of older folks get that way.
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same thing happened to a friend of mine. had to put the dog down.
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Sounds like a good conversation you had. I don't know if I would have handled it as well as you did. Hopefully he's ashamed of himself enough that he'll stop.

That said, I'm a big fan of security cameras with motion detection. Of course I'm kind of a fan of security anything. That's kind of my thing.
I have dogs so that they can bark (one of the reasons). First line of defense before the led flies.
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Put on a mask and go peep in his windows. That will teach the old bastard.
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same thing happened to a friend of mine. had to put the dog down.
I had spoken with the animal control officer and he said that in his 20 years he's been working for the city, he has never seen that happen because the dog barks. The most he has seen was it going to court and having it thrown out.

I guess the thing that's bugging me the most is that instead of coming and talking to me, he has now become "that neighbor". It's important to know and trust your neighbor.
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Put on a mask and go peep in his windows. That will teach the old bastard.
This is Texas, you'd get shot through the window.
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LOL, there's the winning answer right there. Thread closed
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Yeah I know Texas. Just dont do it at night.
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I HATE dogs that bark all day while the owner is either gone or oblivious to the noise. Breaking any city ordnance or not no one wants to hear a dog endlessly barking. I feel sorry for your neighbors.

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I HATE dogs that bark all day while the owner is either gone or oblivious to the noise. Breaking any city ordnance or not no one wants to hear a dog endlessly barking. I feel sorry for your neighbors.

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That's assuming that they bark all day.

Our dogs stay inside unless they need to go out and do their business, out for a walk or at the park; things of that sort.

Now, they do bark, but not uncontrollably or all day. When we let them out, if they start barking, we get them inside. There are dogs all over my neighborhood, it's just an issue with my neighbor being a flat out disgruntled old man for whatever reason it may be.

While talking with him, I did say that my dogs bark, they're dogs, they do that. I even said that I know for a fact that they don't bark excessively or in the middle of the night. His reply was, "God I hope not!" So I know that when he called animal control when we moved in, it was complete BS simply from the fact that they don't bark obnoxiously unless something is wrong.

For me, it's about having neighbors who don't know how to be neighborly.
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So if he comes to my door now to complain about something, I should just punch him in his dentures?
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That's assuming that they bark all day.

Our dogs stay inside unless they need to go out and do their business, out for a walk or at the park; things of that sort.

Now, they do bark, but not uncontrollably or all day. When we let them out, if they start barking, we get them inside. There are dogs all over my neighborhood, it's just an issue with my neighbor being a flat out disgruntled old man for whatever reason it may be.

While talking with him, I did say that my dogs bark, they're dogs, they do that. I even said that I know for a fact that they don't bark excessively or in the middle of the night. His reply was, "God I hope not!" So I know that when he called animal control when we moved in, it was complete BS simply from the fact that they don't bark obnoxiously unless something is wrong.

For me, it's about having neighbors who don't know how to be neighborly.

Your dogs obviously barked and bothered him to the point he felt he had to do something about it, and you're saying he doesnt know how to be neighborly? You remind me of my neighbor who lets their fucking 8 year old scream for hours outside and then says 'thats what kids do'.
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Your dogs obviously barked and bothered him to the point he felt he had to do something about it, and you're saying he doesnt know how to be neighborly? You remind me of my neighbor who lets their fucking 8 year old scream for hours outside and then says 'thats what kids do'.
If my dogs barked for hours outside, the comparison would be accurate. But they don't.

He admitted to me that he was wrong in doing something like that, it was a childish thing to do and that he is very embarrassed.

When I say, "dogs bark, that's what they do", I'm not talking about uncontrollably. My dogs bark to make their presence known. If someone comes onto the property that shouldn't be there or in this case, the old man was at the fence peeking through a hole, they will go nuts. That's exactly what I want them to do.

So for me to say he doesn't know how to be neighborly, I still stand by that. What is so hard about going to your neighbor and talking to them about something that might be bothering them?

Heck, he might just hate dogs and not be happy that someone moved in next door to him that has one. Anything is possible, but for them to be barking uncontrollably or even hours at a time... doesn't happen.
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That's terrible. I might not have reacted with as much civility as you did.

I have my suspicions that the cleaning lady has been harrassing my dog while he's in his crate. I'm going to set up a cam to see what she does when I'm not at home.
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Your dogs obviously barked and bothered him to the point he felt he had to do something about it, and you're saying he doesnt know how to be neighborly? You remind me of my neighbor who lets their fucking 8 year old scream for hours outside and then says 'thats what kids do'.
If he knew anything about dogs, then he'd know that wearing a mask and terrorizing them would only make things worse. But that's how that generation is. They grew up hitting and intimidating their pets.

I was talking with an old dude the other day(at the dog park) who was telling me a story about how his dog got out of the house, and he beat the living shit out of him when he finally found him. I was pretty mortified listening to this story, but I realize that's the way that generation is.
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So today I come home from my office and let my dogs out back. They bolted to the side of the house and are going absolutely nuts. I normally don't go back on that side because there is a big tree between the fence and the house. So I make my way back there and my german pincher/beagle looks like he's about to tear someones face off. I've NEVER seen him like that before.

I walk up to him and grab his collar and see through a gap in the fence, my neighbor wearing a face mask, face inches away from the hole, shaking the fence while growling. He was so caught up in the moment that he didn't realize that I was standing there. He finally looks up and walks away. My wife comes home and I look out the front door and see the bastard cleaning leaves in the front of his house. I tell my wife what happens and that I'm going to confront him.

I go in front of his house, get his attention and he comes over to me. I simply say, "Hi - if you have a problem with my dogs or anything else concerning my property or my family, please feel free to come knock on my door and let me know. He said, "Okay." I then ask him if he feels like things are so bad that he can't come talk to his neighbor. He starts mumbling and I ask how old he is, he says he's 83 years old. Then I ask, "Don't you think in the 83 years of your life, you might have learned that it's okay to be friendly to your neighbors?"

Anyway - the old man told me he was very embarrassed that I caught him doing it and that now that I've caught him doing it, he realizes that it was a childish thing to do.

He called animal control on us when we first moved in because my dog was barking one afternoon, not breaking any city ordnance. Now that I see what he was doing, it makes me think that he's been doing it a lot more, making my dog look/act aggressive. I fear that if my dog gets out and sees him, he's going to bite his fucking face off.



Sorry for the rant, but what would you guys do?
could'a been worse. could'a been peep'n in the winder toss'n one off
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You should tell the old dipshit that he'll be dead soon, and then you'll let your dogs piss and shit on his grave.

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Fun or not, people shouldn't do that, especially to dogs. My dog, for instance, is very friendly, people person and loving. Now that this old man has taunted him, my dog probably sees him as a threat now.

What if my dog got out, saw the old man and attacked him? It pisses me off because you hear of these types of stories all the time, where the friendly dog attacks a kid.

The conversation I had with him was necessary. It probably would have been a different conversation if he wasn't so old. I just brought it up again to my wife and told her that I feel bad in a way because it was like I was scolding one of my kids... She said he's probably just feeling isolated, hermit-like; a lot of older folks get that way.
too bad you didn't catch it on video
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So if he comes to my door now to complain about something, I should just punch him in his dentures?
Answer the door with a mask on, and just growl.
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get some of those fake security cameras, grandpa will get the hint... lol
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I have dogs so that they can bark (one of the reasons). First line of defense before the led flies.
great, sure am glad I don't live next door to you... vicious dogs and standing just in the door ready to shoot somebody.. hopefully the meds are working?
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noooooooooooooooo, say it ain't so

I hope you took your dogs for counselling
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:08 AM   #42
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german pincher/beagle

what the fuck.. post a picture of this weird dog.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #43
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german pincher/beagle

what the fuck.. post a picture of this weird dog.
i thought it was two dogs??
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You should go taunt him in the middle of the night LOLOL
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i thought it was two dogs??
no, just schizophrenic.

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Old 01-07-2012, 08:43 AM   #46
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fake cameras all around house, it keeps neighbors in check. trust me. LOL

Yes I saw the LOL. On a serious note, none of the alarm system salespeople that knock on my door every couple of months have noticed the FOUR cameras out front. There are two on the front porch and every time I have to point them out. That suggests to me that fake cameras will not be noticed.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:51 AM   #47
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what indoor security camera system do you recommend, looking for something easy to install and cost effective. Basically watch my place online or from my cell phone, thanks
It's totally situation dependent. I wouldn't make any recommendation without seeing your place, and talking about your budget. I can recommend that you get a book or read done in depth information on some web sites before setting them up. There are some common and significant mistakes to avoid when it comes to setting them up.

For remote viewing, a lower quality camera will often work indoors, because the feed on your phone isn't going to show fine detail anyway. Something like X10 may be fine in many case. Outdoors, I want the recording to be good enough to read a license plate number.

Motion detectors help record only the interesting stuff. For some people, the better Swann products may be worth a look because for a low budget solution they don't suck as much as some others. For
other people, better equipment makes more sense.

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83 years old, he's going to die soon, he apologized, be the bigger person try to make nice.

Now if he was 25 years old and acting like that I would say pick a fight with him and knock him the fuck out.
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what indoor security camera system do you recommend, looking for something easy to install and cost effective. Basically watch my place online or from my cell phone
I will also say that while wireless is popular and seems easier, inexpensive wireless systems have crap image quality and getting a good signal from every camera is a problem.

I do have six or eight wireless cams, two specialty cams that I use for temporary surveillance and the others just sit in a box. The pinhole cam is useful, as is the bullet cam, but for standard cams wired is better. For permanent installation, run wires. You can run CAT6 at the same time so you're getting more done for the time you spend.

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Yes I saw the LOL. On a serious note, none of the alarm system salespeople that knock on my door every couple of months have noticed the FOUR cameras out front. There are two on the front porch and every time I have to point them out. That suggests to me that fake cameras will not be noticed.
get real looking ones. have had neighbors and a cop come over asking me if my camera above my garage caputed footage of a drunk driver that ran off road recently here LOL

I said, no it doesnt quite get that angle.

even cops think mine are real, get better looking ones, mine were not cheap. mount them in clearly visible location and drop the extra bucks for the weather proof signs ... you have to TELL THEM YOU ARE FIL<MING, not just put them up ;)
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