Redrob

Quite a list if you ask me.

I think Congress it going to think long and hard; then come back and pass this legislation.

Just my opinion.

60 Plus Association
ABC
Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies (ASOP)
American Bankers Association (ABA)
American Federation of Musicians (AFM)
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)
American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)
Americans for Tax Reform
Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States
Association of American Publishers (AAP)
Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies
Association of Talent Agents (ATA)
Beachbody, LLC
BMI
BMG Chrysalis
Building and Construction Trades Department
Capitol Records Nashville
CBS
Cengage Learning
Christian Music Trade Association
Church Music Publishers? Association
Coalition Against Online Video Piracy (CAOVP)
Comcast/NBCUniversal
Concerned Women for America (CWA)
Congressional Fire Services Institute
Copyhype
Copyright Alliance
Coty, Inc.
Council of Better Business Bureaus (CBBB)
Council of State Governments
Country Music Association
Country Music Television
Creative America
Deluxe
Directors Guild of America (DGA)
Disney Publishing Worldwide, Inc.
Elsevier
EMI Christian Music Group
EMI Music Publishing
Entertainment Software Association (ESA)
ESPN
Estée Lauder Companies
Fraternal Order of Police (FOP)
Gospel Music Association
Graphic Artists Guild
Hachette Book Group
HarperCollins Publishers Worldwide, Inc.
Hyperion
Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA)
International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees (IATSE)
International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition (IACC)
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
International Trademark Association (INTA)
International Union of Police Associations
L?Oreal
Lost Highway Records
Macmillan
Major County Sheriffs
Major League Baseball
Majority City Chiefs
Marvel Entertainment, LLC
MasterCard Worldwide
MCA Records
McGraw-Hill Education
Mercury Nashville
Minor League Baseball (MiLB)
Minority Media & Telecom Council (MMTC)
Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
Moving Picture Technicians
MPA ? The Association of Magazine Media
National Association of Manufacturers (NAM)
National Association of Prosecutor Coordinators
National Association of State Chief Information Officers
National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA)
National Center for Victims of Crime
National Crime Justice Association
National District Attorneys Association
National Domestic Preparedness Coalition
National Football League
National Governors Association, Economic Development and Commerce Committee
National League of Cities
National Narcotics Offers? Associations? Coalition
National Sheriffs? Association (NSA)
National Songwriters Association
National Troopers Coalition
News Corporation
Pearson Education
Penguin Group (USA), Inc.
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA)
Pfizer, Inc.
Provident Music Group
Random House
Raulet Property Partners
Republic Nashville
Revlon
Scholastic, Inc.
Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
Showdog Universal Music
Sony/ATV Music Publishing
Sony Music Entertainment
Sony Music Nashville
State International Development Organization (SIDO)
The National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO)
The Perseus Books Groups
The United States Conference of Mayors
Tiffany & Co.
Time Warner
True Religion Brand Jeans
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
UMG Publishing Group Nashville
United States Chamber of Commerce
United States Olympic Committee
United States Tennis Association
Universal Music
Universal Music Publishing Group
Viacom
Visa Inc.
W.W. Norton & Company
Wallace Bajjali Development Partners, L.P.
Warner Music Group
Warner Music Nashville
Wolters Kluewer Health
Word Entertainment

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Robbie

Add "Robbie" to that list of supporters. I'd like to see all pirates and thieves in jail.

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SleazyDream

the more I think about it, the more I support it too.

the people who produce the contend need to be paid....

tubes have just said 'fuck you' to everyone involved in production.

it's a system that can't continue

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DWB

I support SOPA.

Upload what you own, and that is that. Not a difficult concept. If that means Facebook, Yahoo, Flickr and other mega giant companies need to change how they operate, boo-fucking-hoo.

Paul Markham

It's coming whether people who pirate content like it or not.

So if part of your income relies on piracy, adapt or die.

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SASCH

While I agree with the SOPA/PIPA's objective, it needs some rewriting.

Robbie

Oh man...that will be SOOO sweet to say to the thieves!

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DWB

All the shit stains who always say that, and you all know who you are and what you support, will have to eat dicks.

ADAPT OR DIE, pirates.

baddog

I have to admit, I don't get why so many adult webmasters think SOPA is a bad thing.

Redrob

Fear of the Government more than pirates, Baddog. Just plain scared out of their minds.

Just my opinion.....

DWB

Probably because so many of them are operating illegal sites or profiting from pirated content.


I hate big government just as much as the next guy, but the internet can not be lawless and intellectual property must be protected just as it is offline. DMCA is not enough.

I think it's pretty obvious that piracy has become the norm in the industry, so I would be scared too if I earned my living leeching off of others.

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Just fucking around Freedom = Protection of Property Rights.

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DWB

If you own a 7-11, I can not waltz into your store, steal EVERYTHING YOU HAVE, then open 7-12 next door to you, selling all the same shit I stole from your store. I couldn't even give it away for free if I wanted to. I would be arrested for theft and my store would be shut down. Period. End of story.

The internet should not be any different.

Upload only what is yours or don't upload it. If you own a site that allows user uploads and you can't police it, sorry about your luck. If it's not yours and you don't have permission to use it, you can't. Or run the risk of losing your site.

Paul Markham

QFT.


Industry? It's become the norm in society and the leeches are just another form of parasites. And what do we do with parasites?



What amazes me is the excuse of only liking one track off an album. So they download the one track they "like" along with the rest of the album I guess. Because that's the excuse.

So if I only like the wing mirrors on a Mercedes, I can steal them or steal the whole car!!!!!

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DamianJ

Because it will break the internet, and gives your competition the power to get your billing and hosting pulled in 5 days with no judicial process. Simple really.

Also, it won't work, because anyone can get round it by entering in the IP.

But no one seems to have explained that.

It's the problem when 60 year old men make decisions about technology they don't understand.

L-Pink

My life was just fine before Facebook, youtube, Yahoo, etc ..... And it will be fine without them. Bring some accountability to the internet.

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DWB

They will get it worked out. Soon as people us IPs to bypass it, they will close that hole.

And it won't break anything. It will put people out of business, but those people need to go anyway. I also doubt those 60 year old men are blindly making this up as they go. A hunch would tell me they have access to the best and brightest minds the country has to offer.

No law will be perfect. The most important thing is a big step is made. Will there be accidents? Of course. But that's how it goes. The kinks will get worked out.

I wouldn't want to be someone who profits from piracy right now, that much I know.

pornguy

I agree with portions of SOPA but there are portions that need to be changed.

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Redrob

Bahahahhah

Fear tactics.....nothing more or less.

Joshua G

yeah. this is true for the foreign sites.

but once scammers start sending SPAM that says "visit redtube for free porn! visit 123.456.78" & that IP resolves to malware instead, the casual surfer will have a trust problem whenever they see a numeric IP link.

losing placement on google, & losing legit payment processors/advertisers, is a big deal as well.

DamianJ

Why haven't they "closed that hole" within China? The great firewall of china is facile to get around.


OK, lots and lots of people that understand DNS say different. I chose to believe them, rather than you.

Read up and find out why:

http://dyn.com/sopa-breaking-dns-par...online-piracy/

http://dyn.com/sopa-what-you-should-...yn-opposes-it/


Remember net neutrality? America is run by old men who do not understand the internet.


The thing is, the second tier internet will just take over in days if it does go through.

NOTHING will EVER stop people profiting from piracy. Sadly.

ditto.

ezgirl

You are dreaming if you think they are going to protect porn sites. Plus, after shutting down some free music sites they will say "Gee that was easy and fun, let's shut down some porn sites." It's the camel's nose in the tent. We will go from fighting stolen content to being completely out of business.

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NewNick

Please stop with this bullshit, it is just plain wrong. It will not break the Internet.

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Caligari

Aye, not the best written piece of legislation but after some consideration I believe it is better than the alternative which is doing nothing and letting massive theft continue.

And it's going to pass.
One big issue is that theater box office has been steadily declining over the years-
http://news.yahoo.com/movie-crowds-d...153925810.html

The studios have been losing too much $ so they are going to stop those losses and SOPA is the plug.

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DamianJ

Read the articles I linked to that explain how it will break the internet, digest and comprehend what the DNS experts are saying, then come back and explain why they are wrong.

That is how one has a discussion.

For bonus points, explain why a pornographer wants to trust the government to censor the internet.

DamianJ

No it hasn't

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?vie...asedate&p=.htm

femdomdestiny

Me to,but I was thinking that I simply don't have enough info about all this.

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Caligari

Yes it has-
adjusting for inflation/higher ticket prices, box office has been diminishing.

you really should read before flapping your fingers.

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jscott

go SOPA go!!!

GonZo

Fabian will be really sad.

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eroticsexxx

This debate goes nowhere when such generalizations are made. Persons who do not fully support the Stop Online Piracy Act are not all pirates and thieves.

I support copyright protection and laws. However, my training in law leads me to the conclusion that the SOPA is far too heavy-handed and quite frankly is unconstitutional. At this point many SOPA supporters will stop reading, but bear with me for a second.

Passing legislation like this makes Federal Enforcement the judge, jury and executioner based on mere accusations of infringement. There is no due process, no impartiality, only a decision that is made in favour of the complainant.

Every US citizen should be very careful of openly supporting such legislation being passed as it sets a dangerous precedent where the State can at will enforce a punishment on citizens and corporations without going through proper established channels.

Piracy is very damaging to a great number of industries, but to sacrifice due process for the sake of expediency is quite worrying. Exactly what precedent is being set in regards to passing legislation? Really think about it now. If this passes, what will be the next major instance of legislation that simply will allow Federal enforcement to shut down citizens and corporations without due process? Remember that we in the adult industry ride a very fine line when it comes to the moral brigade in United States of America.

I'm not trying to convince anyone because it is your right to agree with whatever you so choose to, but legal precedents when set are very difficult to overcome. The SOPA will have long-term, far-reaching effects that few persons who support it see the disadvantages of at this time, the benefits are too blinding.

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SOPA States:

(d) Modification or Vacation of Orders-
(1) IN GENERAL- At any time after the issuance of an order under subsection (b), a motion to modify, suspend, or vacate the order may be filed by--
(A) any person, or owner or operator of property, that is subject to the order;
(B) any registrant of the domain name, or the owner or operator, of the Internet site that is subject to the order;
(C) any domain name registrar, registry, or other domain name registration authority that has registered or assigned the domain name of the Internet site that is subject to the order; or
(D) any entity that has been served with a copy of an order pursuant to subsection (c) that requires such entity to take action prescribed in that subsection.
(2) RELIEF- Relief under this subsection shall be proper if the court finds that--
(A) the foreign Internet site subject to the order is no longer, or never was, a foreign infringing site; or
(B) the interests of justice otherwise require that the order be modified, suspended, or vacated.


Sounds no worse than content owners having to respond with a DMCA notice for every takedown request to the pirates. Now the pirates have to respond with a "But, it's not me!" request.

L-Pink

It won't break the internet

Maybe old men need to step in and stop young assholes from pretending we are suddenly back in the wild west.



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i would have expected a longer list to be honest

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No need to enlarge the text that you post. We here can read just fine and it does not do anything more than underline your belief that what you post is factual and correct.

Key words in your statement: "Sounds no worse".

The reality: "The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA creates a “market-based system to protect U.S. customers and prevent U.S. funding of sites dedicated to theft of U.S. property.” It achieves this by empowering copyright owners who have a “good faith belief” that they are being “harmed by the activities” of a website to send a notice to the site’s payment providers (e.g. PayPal) and Internet advertisers to end business with the allegedly offending site.

The payment providers and advertisers that receive the notice must stop transactions with the site as per the SOPA legislation. No judicial review is required for the notice to be sent and for the payments and advertising curtailed—only the good faith representation of the copyright owner.

Damages are also not available to the site owner unless a claimant “knowingly materially” misrepresented that the law covers the targeted site, a difficult legal test to meet.

The owner of the site can issue a counter-notice to restore payment processing and advertising but services need not comply with the counter-notice.

There is also a catch: a site owner who issues a counter-notice automatically consents to being sued in U.S. courts (a strong disincentive for sites based abroad).

With few checks at all, SOPA gives copyright owners a sharp tool to disrupt and shut down websites. Based on their past conduct, there is no reason to think that copyright owners will use this tool with any measure of restraint." - Jason Mazzone (law professor and Author of Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law (Stanford University Press, 2011)

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BFT3K

True enough, coupled with the fact that the URLs that will be flagged will not go down - they'll just be blocked from the US, so in the end you won't even know who is stealing your shit.

The idea is great, but as they say... the devil's in the details.

BFT3K

Actually congress has voted to PROTECT online porn, as surprising as that may be...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1158466.html

eroticsexxx

Indeed they did vote to support online porn interests, but what they will do next to eliminate any chance of being perceived as being "porn-friendly" remains to be seen.

A few of my clients are Republicans, who overlook my transgressions (aligning myself with the adult industry) because I'm exceedingly good at what I do. From discussions we have had regarding this bill, there will be an inevitable backlash against the industry to prevent democrats from using conservative support for the SOPA amendment to protect porn against those who voted in favour of it.

It will not be pretty, because those conservatives will protect their reputations to the nth degree, especially in regards to opposing adult content.

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Caligari

How is that difficult? Either the claimant has just cause to send a SOPA notice or they don't, and any half decent lawyer can pimp slap them back to the stone age if they make a baseless claim which costs the site owner time and money.

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Robbie

I'm for it. The industry has already been destroyed and many have already gone out of business.

This isn't the government "taking over". It's just a law to stop copyright infringement.

And for everyone who THINKS it won't have any effect and all the pirates will just leave the U.S. and use other billers etc.: No they won't.

If this law passes...Paypal and Visa and Mastercard will all be forced to shut them down. Doesn't matter where they are in the world.

And if any of you "gideongalleries" actually believe that pirates do this out of a sense of "freedom" you are full of shit. They do it for the MONEY. Cut the money, and they are gone.

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eroticsexxx

There would be no need for lawyers if the law was as black and white as some of you make it out to be. Anything can be fought in a court of law for an extended period. For smaller sites/corporations, this could prove financially burdensome. A larger company can spin a case until a smaller company or an individual gives up due to a lack of resources.

That is a classic legal strategy that is very successful.

Meanwhile, let's not forget that in a scenario like that the revenue for the smaller corporation/individual already has been cut off as per the SOPA.

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eroticsexxx

Correction: It's a law to stop copyright infringement without due process in a court of law.

That is a dangerous precedent for any US citizen to agree with.

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Robbie

What do you consider "due process"?
For instance...if a person had a CP site (which is illegal) wouldn't the govt. shut it down immediately and arrest them?

Isn't stealing illegal too?

As far as no "due process"...I'm not sure of that. Sounds to me like every other law on the books. You get your chance to prove you're not a thief.

In my opinion...both in having skin in the game AND as a very, very successsful affiliate to other programs since the mid 1990's...I see nothing but GOOD in this bill.

And I hope it passes quickly. The damage that is being done everyday to this industry is unacceptable.

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Phoenix

everyone should be on board with this.
even the people who have already made huge tubes, can now just afford to go legal and keep on truckin...we can help with that btw www.memberchannels.com ahem
its the small fry like some who are posting in this this thread who are now worried about losing their free ride...it is obvious as well as to who is in support of what, thus their motives should also be obvious.

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Caligari

So what's the difference? There are already lawyers all over the place representing copyright holders and suing pirates and downloaders, so reversing that idea to make the pirates pay for lawyers seems quite equitable to me. You will neither increase or diminsh the amount of lawyers in this scenario.

It comes down to the fact that the web site is legally OR illegally using copyrighted material, and that is a black and white issue.

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GonZo

Make sure and report from AVNFabian's keynote speech about his B plan if this passes.

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LOL! I am going to meet with Fabian in Vegas for sure. But go to his "keynote speech"? No thanks!

1. He has nothing to say in his speech that's gonna make me any money.

2. Keynote speeches are boring and spammy.

3. The smell of fear in the room of all the desperate webmasters hoping he'll buy them out would be too overpowering.


But seriously...I think he's already done "Plan B". He bought out companies like Twistys who could no longer make the kind of money they once did because of piracy...and he took over the "web" business for Playboy and several other old school companies who never did "get it' when it came to online porn.

So now, when this passes he will be sitting on a goldmine because when piracy goes "bye-bye" those sites value will increase and they will start making money again.
The guy is smart. I'll give him that.

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imabro

england must be very small if 2 is a lot but i guess if on internet must be truthful

bronco67

I'm still trying to figure out how a copyrighted picture on Facebook or Youtube video can hurt any corporation. The problem is wholesale distribution of material on torrents and filesharing sites. Hopefully that's what will be affected by SOPA.

I think there's a small percentage of antiSOPA people who have serious concerns about the possibility of government abuse or over-reaching, and that's valid. But I'll bet a large majority of naysayers have a huge stake business-wise in the outcome, or just dread the thought of having to pay for stuff again.

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of you really think this is going to increase sales at your crappy old tgp you are insane. but that's what people think here.