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Old 01-12-2012, 10:36 AM   #101
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wtf happened here ?


ooh paul markham happened .
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:49 AM   #102
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1) I wanted to know if there's a possibility to add a trade script ?

2) Use an email (from the domain)
ex: [email protected]

You see, i got a couple of domains which i could turn into your tube thingo (i'm sure lots of others too would need this)
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:07 AM   #103
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I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.
The price of milk went up since 1950, too.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:47 AM   #104
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Who runs the banners on the hostedtubes? Is there any rev on those?
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:32 PM   #105
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Who runs the banners on the hostedtubes? Is there any rev on those?
Mike I left you a message on Skype.
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1) I wanted to know if there's a possibility to add a trade script ?

2) Use an email (from the domain)
ex: [email protected]

You see, i got a couple of domains which i could turn into your tube thingo (i'm sure lots of others too would need this)
The functionality of a trade script is something we do plan on looking more into.
As far as emails go though, I think the best we'd do in that area is set it up so you can input an email that you'd like to show on your site. Allowing for a different mail record or providing email for the .com while it's hosted on our servers opens up a whole new can of worms.
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:18 PM   #107
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:51 PM   #108
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Yep. You'll see XXX Match in your PimpRoll stats. (updated once a day)
Where cause I don't see it in my stats? I emailed PR support and they said that we do get credit but it's not listed in stats yet and will in the near future. No time frame mentioned.

What I'd like to know is if the sales are being batched and will show up later once the xxxmatch line is added?
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Where cause I don't see it in my stats? I emailed PR support and they said that we do get credit but it's not listed in stats yet and will in the near future. No time frame mentioned.

What I'd like to know is if the sales are being batched and will show up later once the xxxmatch line is added?
They're compiled every night.

If you check your stats for December you'll see a sale on your account.

It appears XXXMatch stats only show if there's a sale.

Tomorrow I'll have my programmer make sure the traffic stats show up even if there's not a sale.
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Did you guys know that porn sold better when it was in magazines? And that the amount of free porn on the internet is hurting ratios?

Sorry for the bad news, but it's true! Someone here should make a point to get the word out in many threads, so everyone knows this stuff, it's pretty important info IMO.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:49 PM   #112
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:22 AM   #113
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Paul is just trying to live up to his GFY Troll of the Year title. Ignore him and maybe he'll just die off.

Literally.
The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
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8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.

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Did you guys know that porn sold better when it was in magazines? And that the amount of free porn on the internet is hurting ratios?

Sorry for the bad news, but it's true! Someone here should make a point to get the word out in many threads, so everyone knows this stuff, it's pretty important info IMO.
Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.

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Old 01-13-2012, 12:50 AM   #114
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The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.
You're right about those ratios, they do suck...but if someone doesn't have the time to develop a parked domain I think it's better having a "Hosted Tube" on it that might snag some sales then just having a parked page or sending traffic that hasn't been converting to the hosted tube and maybe it will work there?

What would be your suggestions to get better conversion ratios in this day and age? What things as a sponsor would you do to tweak things or what new ideas would you do to help get better ratios?
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So, what's considered a good ratio with HT?

1: 1500? 1:3000? 1:4500?
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The ratios should count on the sponsors side and not your bulk unfiltered traffic that the tube gets. If you switched an unused domain to a tube it'd probably start building traffic from seo and bookmarkers. If you try your domains, see if traffic starts to build the next month, and month after. At the very least if you decide to leave the hostedtube concept, you'll probably still get all that new traffic you've built up to those previously unused or parked domains.
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You're right about those ratios, they do suck...but if someone doesn't have the time to develop a parked domain I think it's better having a "Hosted Tube" on it that might snag some sales then just having a parked page or sending traffic that hasn't been converting to the hosted tube and maybe it will work there?

What would be your suggestions to get better conversion ratios in this day and age? What things as a sponsor would you do to tweak things or what new ideas would you do to help get better ratios?
Thank you for the intelligent reply.

What I would not do is teach more surfers that porn doesn't need to be bought, it's all free. I know it's late for that but, just an ethic and not practical.

If I had a parked domain that was unworked and getting the traffic these guys are claiming. I would work it. By just put a gallery onto the site, an advert for a site or an email catcher, etc. Or just redirect the traffic to a site they are working. Is that so hard?

The people reading and posting here are working the domain, by being here so have time. Roald is putting traffic into it he could sell. People have been talking about buying traffic or working the domain.

Whether worked or not. The same question applies. Are these ratios normal for Pimproll's Tube or Tube's in general? Because ultimately that's where it ends up, on a paysite of some sort and then to their join page. Are the conversions on the join page normal for all sites or just their sites?

No Brujah, people consuming porn should be counted. Once filtered another count, then how that performs. Keep checking performances. Because if you're getting 10,000 "unfiltered" traffic and 10 are going to a site. Then you see can the problem. The page isn't working, the link, banner, sample, etc. And solve the initial problem. Is 1-20 off a Tube site normal?
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They're compiled every night.

If you check your stats for December you'll see a sale on your account.

It appears XXXMatch stats only show if there's a sale.

Tomorrow I'll have my programmer make sure the traffic stats show up even if there's not a sale.
Ah ok that makes sense then. I like seeing stats even if there's no sales this way I can tell if something is converting well or not. There's some sales on the paysites which surprised me. I figured it would all be dating,cams & premium sales.

So far this tool looks pretty cool with a lot of potential. I've moved over 200 parked domains so far. It's not a magical Hail Mary of instant SEO traffic, but it's definitely better than leaving a domain unused.

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The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.
sure they are crap ratios, why dont you send traffic and show us stats?

crap ratios maybe, but they are the webmasters indivdual crap ratios.

send a test of say 20k uniques and see what your traffic converts as, every one is different.

20k is a pretty small test, might wanna go all the way to 50 or even 100k uniques.
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no one is going to reply to you because you don't understand the basics of internet marketing nor do you intend to do so. it is a waste of time. i just wasted time.

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The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.
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What would be your suggestions to get better conversion ratios in this day and age? What things as a sponsor would you do to tweak things or what new ideas would you do to help get better ratios?
Please dont humor the madman and make him feel like his opinion counts.
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sure they are crap ratios, why dont you send traffic and show us stats?

crap ratios maybe, but they are the webmasters indivdual crap ratios.

send a test of say 20k uniques and see what your traffic converts as, every one is different.

20k is a pretty small test, might wanna go all the way to 50 or even 100k uniques.
So now you're talking about "working" the domain. I suppose I could send 20k of traffic from Choker and see how it works. The good stuff or the bad stuff and what's the cost? Not to mine of course as I will never have one.

Would just putting up a redirect on that domain, pop up or some advert that made them click the link work better? Just spend a few hours setting it up and leave it.

Would selling the traffic the domain gets, return a better revenue.

I can see if people have domains and all they do is tell the host to set them up, or already set. Then PR do the rest it's something for nothing. It just seemed to me with some of the stats being posted that these unworked domains were getting a lot of traffic, traffic that went to the site 1-20 and converted very poorly. Seems to me the traffic could be put to better use by a simple redirect or banner ad.

I'm sure you guys have better performing sites that would love some extra traffic that costs nothing.
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I will jump the gun here, www.trafficforce.com integration is complete and will be rolled out next week.

That is 2 ways to earn, via PPS and by ad impressions.
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Paul, why don't you just try an experiment and see what works best for you? Take one unused domain and place some ad on it or some type of sales gimmick. Then take another unused domain on it and plug it into the PR tube system. Throw some traffic to both domains and see what your results are in 1 month, 3 months, and 6 months.

You've spent time in this thread asking questions, calculating other users results, and debating issues based on theory. Your theory and how you perceive tubes and this particular product. Yet, you haven't tested anything to see whether your line of thinking, your theory, holds any merit.

Your arguments would carry much more weight if you could say, "This is what I did. This is what my results were at the 1 month mark, the 3 month mark, and the 6 month mark. This is my conclusion based on my own results."

It's basically put up or shut up. It's like you are talking just to hear yourself talk. Or that you're trying hard to convince yourself, and others, that your views on free porn, tubes, and the issues with converting a surfer to a buyer are correct and everyone else is just supposed to take your word for it. It just simply doesn't work that way. You're just trying way to hard to be heard and be taken seriously.
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Regarding the mobile versions of the sites, would you please add links in the footer to 2257 and DMCA pages on all the pages instead of just the main page? Also in case you were unaware, there is a porn site ad at the bottom of the mobile 2257 and DMCA page. Also I see a php error at the bottom of the mobile site pages.
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Well i love how it works on the ipad http://www.tubefilth.com http://www.cravetube.com http://www.pornrally.com
Guess its html5
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So now you're talking about "working" the domain. I suppose I could send 20k of traffic from Choker and see how it works. The good stuff or the bad stuff and what's the cost? Not to mine of course as I will never have one.

Would just putting up a redirect on that domain, pop up or some advert that made them click the link work better? Just spend a few hours setting it up and leave it.

Would selling the traffic the domain gets, return a better revenue.

I can see if people have domains and all they do is tell the host to set them up, or already set. Then PR do the rest it's something for nothing. It just seemed to me with some of the stats being posted that these unworked domains were getting a lot of traffic, traffic that went to the site 1-20 and converted very poorly. Seems to me the traffic could be put to better use by a simple redirect or banner ad.

I'm sure you guys have better performing sites that would love some extra traffic that costs nothing.

Yes paul, you just buy 20K from traffic broker and joins will start rolling in. What a tool.
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Regarding the mobile versions of the sites, would you please add links in the footer to 2257 and DMCA pages on all the pages instead of just the main page? Also in case you were unaware, there is a porn site ad at the bottom of the mobile 2257 and DMCA page. Also I see a php error at the bottom of the mobile site pages.
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Thanks Aric, btw are you guys working on a way to bulk edit? After bulk importing 100s of domains it is really not practical to edit each one individually when you want to make the same change to each.
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Yep. We will be implementing "templates" that you can change and apply to any tube assigned to that template.
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I will jump the gun here, www.trafficforce.com integration is complete and will be rolled out next week.

That is 2 ways to earn, via PPS and by ad impressions.
Boom, headshot. Superb, Dave!
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Are there plans to display embed codes under the videos for promotion? I think that was mentioned before, but I'm unsure. It would be great to see
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Slightly off topic, but could you smart fellas at pimproll please optimize your stats database, so that I can pull up 1 or 2 years of my cumulative pimproll stats without your server timing out, giving me a blank page, or 500 server error?
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Paul, why don't you just try an experiment and see what works best for you? Take one unused domain and place some ad on it or some type of sales gimmick. Then take another unused domain on it and plug it into the PR tube system. Throw some traffic to both domains and see what your results are in 1 month, 3 months, and 6 months.

You've spent time in this thread asking questions, calculating other users results, and debating issues based on theory. Your theory and how you perceive tubes and this particular product. Yet, you haven't tested anything to see whether your line of thinking, your theory, holds any merit.

Your arguments would carry much more weight if you could say, "This is what I did. This is what my results were at the 1 month mark, the 3 month mark, and the 6 month mark. This is my conclusion based on my own results."

It's basically put up or shut up. It's like you are talking just to hear yourself talk. Or that you're trying hard to convince yourself, and others, that your views on free porn, tubes, and the issues with converting a surfer to a buyer are correct and everyone else is just supposed to take your word for it. It just simply doesn't work that way. You're just trying way to hard to be heard and be taken seriously.
Good job. You've just earned yourself a spot on his ignore list with your idiotic post.

You don't have to test things for yourself when you already know what the outcome is.

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The conversions are going to differ for everyone whether it is from se, text link traffic, membership traffic, skimmed, or 403 traffic. If we know our own network traffic, we can have better quality conversions. Se can be good if it is micro niched keywords, dont try to rank for anything with the keyword free in it.
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Curious to see if this winds up working at all.
We did 1 sale

Putting things back now as I rather do no work and grow traffic on it then spent more time on it and create revenue.
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Paul, why don't you just try an experiment and see what works best for you? Take one unused domain and place some ad on it or some type of sales gimmick. Then take another unused domain on it and plug it into the PR tube system. Throw some traffic to both domains and see what your results are in 1 month, 3 months, and 6 months.

You've spent time in this thread asking questions, calculating other users results, and debating issues based on theory. Your theory and how you perceive tubes and this particular product. Yet, you haven't tested anything to see whether your line of thinking, your theory, holds any merit.

Your arguments would carry much more weight if you could say, "This is what I did. This is what my results were at the 1 month mark, the 3 month mark, and the 6 month mark. This is my conclusion based on my own results."

It's basically put up or shut up. It's like you are talking just to hear yourself talk. Or that you're trying hard to convince yourself, and others, that your views on free porn, tubes, and the issues with converting a surfer to a buyer are correct and everyone else is just supposed to take your word for it. It just simply doesn't work that way. You're just trying way to hard to be heard and be taken seriously.
I will start out by apologising. Because you clearly didn't get my message. I'm not saying I can do better. I'm taking the stats of my betters at driving traffic and using them as a guide to what I and some others think are really crap ratios.

If that's the norm for a Tube site today, then the whole business is IN MY OPINION not doing very well or you guys and I have a different opinion of what's good. Today or any time. This is what I posted last time. Not updating it unless completely different stats start coming in.

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That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.
Are these stats normal. How much work will it take to improve them and as I remember this was 8-9 people in the initial weeks or month of opening the Tube. 8 sales x $30 = $30 for each one. How normal is this?

Roald has got a sale.

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Putting things back now as I rather do no work and grow traffic on it then spent more time on it and create revenue.
Doesn't make complete sense. Are you carrying on or using te traffic in another way?
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Putting things back now as I rather do no work and grow traffic on it then spent more time on it and create revenue.
Considering they're making it so you can earn ad revenue as well as sales, might be best to just grow traffic anyways.
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I will jump the gun here, www.trafficforce.com integration is complete and will be rolled out next week.

That is 2 ways to earn, via PPS and by ad impressions.
Please tell me what this means. Never used Traffic Force so no idea the details.
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Please tell me what this means. Never used Traffic Force so no idea the details.
www.trafficforce.com sell ads on a CPM basis. So basically you make $$ on every pageview your site does.

The more pageviews you get the more money you make.

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www.trafficforce.com sell ads on a CPM basis. So basically you make $$ on every pageview your site does.

The more pageviews you get the more money you make.

So getting no sales and just sending traffic that clicks on the ads on your site, makes the affiliate money?

Check the ads you have on GFY, one went to a 404. Heads up.
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www.trafficforce.com sell ads on a CPM basis. So basically you make $$ on every pageview your site does.

The more pageviews you get the more money you make.

This would be really cool.
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So getting no sales and just sending traffic that clicks on the ads on your site, makes the affiliate money?

Check the ads you have on GFY, one went to a 404. Heads up.
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What did I do wrong now?

Was it the traffic comment or the ad going to a 404?

http://ads.gofuckyourself.com/openx/...hostedtube.com

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What did I do wrong now?

Was it the traffic comment or the ad going to a 404?

http://ads.gofuckyourself.com/openx/...hostedtube.com
"That is 2 ways to earn, via PPS and by ad impressions."
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So getting no sales and just sending traffic that clicks on the ads on your site, makes the affiliate money?

Check the ads you have on GFY, one went to a 404. Heads up.
Paul, putting outside ads on a site is not getting "no sales". The people buying those ads would not be doing so if it were not profitable for them. Maybe they sell pills or t-shirts or something else but if my traffic prefers to buy their stuff over porn then good for them.
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