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Captain Kawaii · 01-16-2012, 11:08 PM

According to the Piracy Seminar today we hook up with three or four key companies and start suing people...Make some money and watch the pirates cry...Apparently that tac is catching on. I like it. Enough complaining start suing.

Paul Markham · 01-17-2012, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

Not much porn on mobiles atm but I have seen it being done and then sent to other friends, This will only get bigger in time just like the mainstream videos and music they rip and use for ringtones, very popular to rip music from youtube to mobiles and very easily done atm. Torrents are used by novices very much, I found out that even my own daughter was using torrents some years ago as were most of her freinds at school, thankfully she has grown up and no longer uses them anymore, as for social networks the users use them to spread urls by emails and chat.

Even after talking to both my kids about downloading pirated music and videos they still did not seem to grasp why it was wrong, its a culture thing all thier friends do it too, they used to share music with friends on thier phones at school and its going to be hard to break. I can happily say that both of my kids have both left school and grown up and no longer download pirated music. But I wouldent be suprised if my son and all of his mates do the same thing with porn given the chance even though they know its wrong.

People pirating to friends on a one to one basis has happened for long before the Internet. VHS days and music on tape cassettes made it east to copy and give it to friends, or sell it out of the back of your car at a swap meet. The damage was minimal and no one really worried.

The Internet turned it into a real business where 10,000s could get something for free. And the damage is immense. The problem is that they do know it's wrong, but don't fear facing the consequences.

Paul Markham · 01-17-2012, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I was quite clear in what I wrote. Copyright protection did not come about because they thought "Wow, these people need to get rich on their ideas!" it came about to ensure that more works would be released with cash incentives being a trade off they had to accept. Most here talk as if copyright was intended to grant them lifetime ownership of their content because it was theirs and they deserve it but that is not what was originally intended. The reason that attitude is so prevalent is the influence of corporations on our current laws.

The situation is for many it has to mean a lifetime copyright for them to remain profitable and to keep people employed. Let's use books as an example.

Let's say when the level of profit has been reached, that was decided to be fair, on one book copyright was lost and it was deemed in the Public Domain. What about other books in the publishers catalogue that haven't reached that level and may never?

What happens now is the excessive profit from "Harry Potter" novels. Funds the publishing of others. With your thinking Harry Potter would never of got published in the first place, because it's well known in the book publishing world that children's books are not slam dunk successes. This would of happened with the Beatles, King's Speech and many other products that have to be copyrighted for their lifetime. To pay for the gambles that didn't work out.

To ensure we get the creative long shots and not fed pulp mush that's guaranteed to make a profit.

And what are the penalties for someone who, under the idea you propose, for pirating copyrighted products anyway? Because he has more traffic to sell to traffic brokers than the legal distributors of works that are in the Public Domain.

Paul Markham · 01-17-2012, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Pretty simple. Pull the domains after X number of DMCA's that prove to be correct.

Or rewrite DMCA. Make advertisers, ad brokers, traffic, hosts, processors, etc connected to the site. Liable after receiving a DMCA, registered mail and from a lawyer to weed out the false ones, liable to damages. Then those people will think twice about supporting theft to make a profit.

I'm old enough to remember a time when great music like Sgt Peppers, Tommy, Dark, Side, Court of the Crimson King, Electric Ladyland, etc were released. Along with great films, Lawrence of Arabia, Cleopatra, GodFather, etc. as well. Yes dated today, but possible under the old system of one movie or album having a lifetime to make the return to make the gamble of producing it pay off. Or make so much it paid for the lost gambles. ST23 thinks we should change that.

Well he has helped. What music or film of the last 2 years compares with them? And there were many many more.

01-16-2012, 11:08 PM	#101
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	According to the Piracy Seminar today we hook up with three or four key companies and start suing people...Make some money and watch the pirates cry...Apparently that tac is catching on. I like it. Enough complaining start suing.