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Old 01-25-2012, 05:23 PM   #1
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Paulo Coelho On SOPA: 'Pirates Of The World, Unite And Pirate Everything I've Ever Written!'

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Old 01-25-2012, 05:31 PM   #2
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Why should we care what he says?
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:32 PM   #3
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Are you getting paid overtime tonight? hahaha
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:38 PM   #4
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Why should we care what he says?
http://twitter.com/paulocoelho


http://www.facebook.com/paulocoelho


maybe because he is one of the most listened too author in the world



or maybe because you could learn a few things from him.
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http://twitter.com/paulocoelho


http://www.facebook.com/paulocoelho


maybe because he is one of the most listened too author in the world



or maybe because you could learn a few things from him.
Does he live here? Did not think so. As a result, I could give a flying fuck what he wants to do with his content. Not relevant.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:49 PM   #6
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Does he live here? Did not think so. As a result, I could give a flying fuck what he wants to do with his content. Not relevant.
newsflash: internet is global

megaupload kim was a german living in new zealand

carry on
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Paulo Coelho = Paul Hammark ?
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newsflash: internet is global

megaupload kim was a german living in new zealand

carry on
Stealing American content. Like I said, I don't care what Paulo does with his stuff.
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I have no idea who Paul Coelho is, but if he or any author, musician, band, movie producer, porn chick or any other person who spent time and money creating art of some kind wants to give their content away for free or try alternative distrbution methods to gain attention, traffic and monetize it with ads, straight sales or whatever, that is their prerogative. The problem arises when people decide for themselves that they should be able to help themselves to the media that others created without compensating them.
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I have no idea who Paul Coelho is, but if he or any author, musician, band, movie producer, porn chick or any other person who spent time and money creating art of some kind wants to give their content away for free or try alternative distrbution methods to gain attention, traffic and monetize it with ads, straight sales or whatever, that is their prerogative. The problem arises when people decide for themselves that they should be able to help themselves to the media that others created without compensating them.
Yes yes yes. Why is it that people just can't seem to wrap their tiny minds around this seemingly simple concept?
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Thank you gideongallery for pointing out that content owners can do whatever they want... Sell it or give it away. That's how it should be, the choice of the owner, not the person that wants to consume it.
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I have no idea who Paul Coelho is, but if he or any author, musician, band, movie producer, porn chick or any other person who spent time and money creating art of some kind wants to give their content away for free or try alternative distrbution methods to gain attention, traffic and monetize it with ads, straight sales or whatever, that is their prerogative. The problem arises when people decide for themselves that they should be able to help themselves to the media that others created without compensating them.
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Thank you gideongallery for pointing out that content owners can do whatever they want... Sell it or give it away. That's how it should be, the choice of the owner, not the person that wants to consume it.
Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.

No one would accept the bullshit argument that you need to get GM permission /pay them fees to use the car they made to drive your friends around (sharing your car with them).


Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
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Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.

No one would accept the bullshit argument that you need to get GM permission /pay them fees to use the car they made to drive your friends around (sharing your car with them).


Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
What a stupid fucking argument.

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Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.

No one would accept the bullshit argument that you need to get GM permission /pay them fees to use the car they made to drive your friends around (sharing your car with them).


Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
Gideon, don't be daft. I'm clearly only referring to the great many people downloading various forms of content who did *not* pay for it.
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What a stupid fucking argument.

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I never got into "The Alchemist". I'll try reading it this weekend.
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I have no idea who Paul Coelho is
At least in this thread he doesn't quote some anonymous Hollywood freelancer.
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All these idiots who think they're entitled to consuming content they didn't pay for need to be slapped around. But the people who think we should all live under facist laws because their shitty content got pirated, and want to keep charging people $50 for a site with the same repetative content, are even worse!
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Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
There you go again with the "fair use" thing. You don't even know what fair use is.
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he is Brazilian , enough for me

brazilians don´t want to pay.... period
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Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.

No one would accept the bullshit argument that you need to get GM permission /pay them fees to use the car they made to drive your friends around (sharing your car with them).


Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
For your first argument:
That's because the car is build to hold X amount of people. If you share it with more people at the time than you paid for you will be fined by highway patrol.
For your second argument:
It's funny that you mention cars specifically in your argument in a phrase where you say no other industries police their "content"
I remember some years ago I believe both Mercedes Benz and BMW was threatening people with lawsuits who shot porn having their logo visible in the shoot.

I could name several other industries as well if you like, including the telecom industry.

To your own defense I have to admit that the usage of the cars was before "the cloud" so it's very likely that the car manufactures didn't understand fair usage and time shifting, they may understand the concept a lot better now if you could explain them how all the time shifted content have helped both the music, movie and adult industry

You've been reusing the same 3-4 arguments over and over again throughout the last year or so disregarding how people are being put to jail, fined and the companies who benefit from it are going out of business, do you really sincerely believe you are correct with your statements ?

It's obvious you have strong opinions about the subjects but stating your interpretation of the law based on your opinion using incorrect facts and unsupported facts doesn't do you anything good. How about some new facts or something ? It's not even fun to argue with you anymore if your only response is time shift, cloud and backup
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Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.

No one would accept the bullshit argument that you need to get GM permission /pay them fees to use the car they made to drive your friends around (sharing your car with them).


Your control over your "content" may be greater than any other industry but it was never intended to be absolute, fair use is a legitimate limit you authorized when you claimed your monopoly power.
Your argument makes zero sense.

You can buy or lease a car. There are two models. If you lease, you follow their rules. If you buy, you make your own. They make the product and decide on the ways they will sell it to you.

Content owners have the same rights. If you are a porn company and buy content, you can buy it from the producer outright and own all rights, or they can assign you certain rights.

When you buy a Hollywood movie, or any other content, you are buying it and agree to the rights.

Unless someone signs over their copyright to you, you play by the established rules.
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Unless someone signs over their copyright to you, you play by the established rules.
OR .... buy something else or do without, simple.

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Care to name one other industry in the world that "needs" to control how people use the content they paid for.
That depends on your definition of "use".
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another rich guy who made his fortune before internet piracy telling everyone piracy is cool. classic.
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another rich guy who made his fortune before internet piracy telling everyone piracy is cool. classic.
do you ever get tired of being wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Coelho

the story of how he stood his ground against his publisher to get the compromise is pretty amazing

(he gave back his advance)

the guy is a poster child for turning pirates into buyers.
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moron he got immensely rich through traditional publishing.

he only embraced piracy after he made his fortune.

i know you are clinically delusional but c'mon ....

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do you ever get tired of being wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Coelho

the story of how he stood his ground against his publisher to get the compromise is pretty amazing

(he gave back his advance)

the guy is a poster child for turning pirates into buyers.
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moron he got immensely rich through traditional publishing.

he only embraced piracy after he made his fortune.

i know you are clinically delusional but c'mon ....
seriously you need to a little research before you speak

http://www.santjordi-asociados.com/t...tm?6#alchemist

he hadn't sold 900 copies when he started sharing his work.

he was sharing his stuff when he was a struggling writer.

He gave back the advance money going in to debt to be allowed to continue to share his work when the publisher complained.

It actually the opposite.
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