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onwebcam · 01-26-2012, 11:39 AM

Obama Signs Global Internet Treaty Worse Than SOPA

White House bypasses Senate to ink agreement that could allow Chinese companies to demand ISPs remove web content in US with no legal oversight

http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-...rse-than-sopa/

notime · 01-26-2012, 01:28 PM

"already enforced by the creation of an individual Internet ID card for every web user, a system that is already in the works"

Why does one domain keeps poppin' up & go thru my mind?
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Phillipmcd1 · 01-26-2012, 01:56 PM

Alex Jones is right. Also the Y2K situation with the Russians got out of hand as well

porno jew · 01-26-2012, 01:59 PM

don't believe everything you read on infowars like some kind of sheep.

Harmon · 01-26-2012, 02:03 PM

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porno jew · 01-26-2012, 02:06 PM

how many years can one create fear that a nwo police state is coming next week? jones has been doing it 20 years now. 30? 40? 50? 60?

sperbonzo · 01-26-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

how many years can one create fear that a nwo police state is coming next week? jones has been doing it 20 years now. 30? 40? 50? 60?

In order for governments to take more and more power from the people, and keep it long term, rights and liberties must be taken away gradually. No big sudden crackdown, except during "emergencies". You will just get used to small new things and not feel the next small step, and the next, and the next, and the next. By the time you are 90 and you look around and realize what is really going on, it will be too late, and the younger people, who will have grown up with this stuff, will just call you a crazy old man, and say that everything is fine.

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porno jew · 01-26-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

In order for governments to take more and more power from the people, and keep it long term, rights and liberties must be taken away gradually. No big sudden crackdown, except during "emergencies". You will just get used to small new things and not feel the next small step, and the next, and the next, and the next. By the time you are 90 and you look around and realize what is really going on, it will be too late, and the younger people, who will have grown up with this stuff, will just call you a crazy old man, and say that everything is fine.

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uh-huh. if you were aware of the history of conspiracies this has been right around the corner for over a century now.

another cause for concern in the intellectual birthplace of ideas like this are people and sources like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesta_Helen_Webster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pro...Elders_of_Zion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Po...ips.2C_release http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins

Shotsie · 01-26-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

In order for governments to take more and more power from the people, and keep it long term, rights and liberties must be taken away gradually. No big sudden crackdown, except during "emergencies". You will just get used to small new things and not feel the next small step, and the next, and the next, and the next. By the time you are 90 and you look around and realize what is really going on, it will be too late, and the younger people, who will have grown up with this stuff, will just call you a crazy old man, and say that everything is fine.

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That's what Joseph McCarthy said. That's been the republican mantra for over 80 years now, since the Great Depression.

sperbonzo · 01-26-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

uh-huh. if you were aware of the history of conspiracies this has been right around the corner for over a century now.

another cause for concern in the intellectual birthplace of ideas like this are people and sources like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesta_Helen_Webster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pro...Elders_of_Zion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Po...ips.2C_release http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins

My statement was about the fact that people get upset when too much power is grabbed too quickly, but not when it happens slowly.

I don't think that it's any kind of conspiracy. I don't think it's some long term plan by some kind of cabal.

I think that it's in the nature of people that serve high up in governments, i.e. people that seek power, to want to expand those powers. Once the government takes over power and responsibility for a sector of our lives, it never gives it up. The nature of government and the people who work in it is to grow, and continue to grow. Again, this is not a conspiracy, either long-term or short term, it is simply the nature of the people that are drawn to govern. It's rather like the folks that run large corporations. After a certain point, they are more interested in growing their power rather than growing their wealth. The type of person that runs a global corporation tends to be the kind of person that wants it to get bigger and bigger. Similarly the kind of person that gets into high levels of government tends to be the kind of person that wants the same thing. The only difference is that the government can use violence to enforce it's edicts, whereas the corporation cannot.

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sperbonzo · 01-26-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

That's what Joseph McCarthy said. That's been the republican mantra for over 80 years now, since the Great Depression.

Once the Republicans finally got control of both houses, (for the first time since WWII), in 1992, they only waited 3 years or so before they started growing government just as much as the Democrats.

I don't count myself as a Republican.

Shotsie · 01-26-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I think that it's in the nature of people that serve high up in governments, i.e. people that seek power, to want to expand those powers. Once the government takes over power and responsibility for a sector of our lives, it never gives it up. The nature of government and the people who work in it is to grow, and continue to grow. Again, this is not a conspiracy, either long-term or short term, it is simply the nature of the people that are drawn to govern. It's rather like the folks that run large corporations. After a certain point, they are more interested in growing their power rather than growing their wealth. The type of person that runs a global corporation tends to be the kind of person that wants it to get bigger and bigger. Similarly the kind of person that gets into high levels of government tends to be the kind of person that wants the same thing. The only difference is that the government can use violence to enforce it's edicts, whereas the corporation cannot.

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onwebcam · 01-26-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

don't believe everything you read on infowars like some kind of sheep.

TechDirt work better for ya?

New Petition Asks White House To Submit ACTA To The Senate For Ratification

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...fication.shtml

sperbonzo · 01-26-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/DETOC/toc_indx.html

I've read it, years ago, but personally I prefer these, (it's not just an American thing either...)

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

http://mises.org/

http://jim.com/hayek.htm

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