Entitlement vs Self-Attribution Fallacy - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

u-Bob · 02-01-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

Yes, that is what I believe, and that is what has been proven to work. Not all that theoretical mises bullshit.

If the state has the right to take away your property, then by definition it is not your property. If you do not have the right to own property, then by definition you are not a free man, but a serf.

CaptainHowdy · 02-01-2012, 06:10 AM

I'm too grand for this thread ...

u-Bob · 02-01-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Did you pay for the road in front of your house?

Yes I did. I paid to be connected to the sewerage system. I paid for the 120 meters of cable to be connected to the cable network. I paid the contractor that turned the old dirt road that connects my property to the 'public road' into a 'proper asphalt road'. etc

Barefootsies · 02-01-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

Better though if first you stop getting your "facts" from Coast to Coast AM.

I have no idea what Coast to Coast AM is, however it sounds like something you would listen to. Additionally, considering your polarized, one sided, political views of the world with a touch of Republican fodder, I doubt there is much 'intelligence' on your end to contribute to a balanced discussion. That being said, I always enjoy a good chuckle when people discount actual history, easily verifiable, just because they do not agree with the facts.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Sorry professor. Please don't knock me down to a C. Aren't you the guy who thinks going to college is the way to success? If that was the case 70% of the young population would be successful, including those dirty educated hippies in the occupy movement. Most of the very rich did not do so well in school and did not find it very important.

Hold your horses right there chief!! You do not want to confuse raymor with facts. He might say you get them from NPR, PBS or something.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Some people are just downright focused on working and moving ahead. They work 24 hours a day 7 days a week. And then the majority (the 99% if you will) are all working for the weekend and can't wait for the end of the workday on Monday through Friday and pretty much fuck off at work most of the day.

Human nature I suppose. There are "leaders" and there are "followers" and that's just the way it is.

Amen BROmance.

12clicks · 02-01-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

As he should be and you are too. Did you pay for the road in front of your house? Do you care to refund poor people that can't afford a car but still pay for your road?

poor people who can't afford a car are NOT paying for anyone's road. Or much else for that matter.

raymor · 02-01-2012, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Sorry professor. Please don't knock me down to a C. Aren't you the guy who thinks going to college is the way to success? If that was the case 70% of the young population would be successful, including those dirty educated hippies in the occupy movement.

No, I didn't finish school myself, though I may well go back. I've wanted to be an attorney since I was a little kid, because I love to argue.

What I said is that most millionaires work at learning so they can advance - either learning in school or on the job. If you're successful in this business, I imagine you invested a lot of time and effort learning.

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Most of the very rich did not do so well in school and did not find it very important.

The average millionaire reads two non-fiction books per month. The average non-millionaire, one per year. Rich people get and stay rich by educating themselves. (Aside, possibly, from the very few in Hollywood.)

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I can write much better if i took my time but I don't in such cases as long as i can get my ideas across, thats all that matters to me.

I understand that and probably shouldn't have said anything. That said, HUNDREDS of potential business associates are reading this thread and from it learning who we are.

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And as for small decisions...everything can be traced back. I wouldn't be working online if i didn't get into trouble with the law and was forced by law to not hang out with my friends and needed something else to do. I would never of known how much money there was to be made in adult if not for an email someone i didn't even know sent me after signing up to their mainstream free hosting. Hell if my dad wasn't friends with a guy who was so into computers maybe i never would of had the internet in my home to have the chance to do any of that until much later. Its all connected. None of this was a conscious decision towards anything but its part of what took me to a place where i was working for myself and making much more money than my peers.

Maybe you wouldn't be working online, maybe you would have gotten here via a different path. In order to be successful in this industry, with this much competition, you invested a lot of time and effort into learning. You invested time, effort, and probably money into building your business. You took smart risks. You built relationships. As that kind of person, willing to do those things, you were eventually going to succeed at whatever you were doing.

If you don't already know that the work you invested and the smart risks you take matter, don't work the rest of the week. It doesn't matter whether you work or not, right? It's all luck?

You are working this week, and probably choosing to put off buying things you want, like that new car, in order to invest in your business for long term success. Other, less successful people are spending their paycheck on rims while you invest yours in content. I think you're making better decisions.

PR_Glen · 02-01-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

If 12clicks was born a poor kid in Africa he'd still have grown up to be a moderately wealthy, white has been in America.

Seriously folks, a shit ton of success is based on pure fucking luck. What family were you born into, what opportunities did you have, who did you meet along the way that loaned you some knowledge, etc. Hard work and street smarts can do a lot but neither guarantee you will make great money. Too many factors, way too many.

If you want to see the idiotic attitudes here in fast forward go keep an eye on hot shot poker players. They win for 6 months or a year and think they are so much smarter than everyone then those darn statistics kick in and you never see them win shit again. With millions of people fighting to be successful you will have some that can't lose on pure luck, some that are really brilliant, some that work hard and it works and most that get where they are from a combination of the three.

Even what Robbie says, true to an extent. But his millionaire ass is nobody to the billionaires that also think they are thousands of times smarter than everyone else. To them he is as poor and stupid as the guy working at McDonalds.

Standard deviation, look it up.

if you keep putting yourself in positions of opportunity you create your own luck. You can't hit a homerun if you don't show up to the ball park.

Since when does someone have to be a billionaire to be considered successful? Or to be satisfied? Both my parents have been working class types their whole lives. They found decent jobs early and stuck with it. In their eyes they had no need to want or do more than that. Sure they would have taken more money if they were given it but they would have just spent it on my brother and I, or maybe we would have traveled a bit more, but I assure you they don't feel left out of the picture because they weren't millionaires.

I personally want more than that and I'm pushing hard to get there, but I don't need a billion dollars to do it I assure you--and i can give a rats ass what any billionaire thinks of me. Why should anyone?

Barefootsies · 02-01-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

if you keep putting yourself in positions of opportunity you create your own luck.

"Chance favors the prepared mind" fine sire.

u-Bob · 02-01-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

"Chance favors the prepared mind" fine sire.

I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.
Thomas Jefferson

pornguy · 02-01-2012, 10:34 AM

In the silliest and stupidest old saying is the truth on a road to riches.

if life gives you lemons, Make lemon aid.

Take the lemons and sell lemon aid.

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