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Old 01-29-2012, 11:06 PM   #1
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what vid length are you setting your videos at?
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:26 PM   #2
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Would like to hear some answers to this as well...I've just had mine set at the default length.

I set one up the other day and forgot about it...just checked out the stats and I've had 217 unique visitors and I've never even promoted that domain ever. I'm loving these Hosted Tubes, easy way to put unused domains to use.
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:28 PM   #3
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i put mine at max length to increase time on site.
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though that's not helping sales.
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:33 PM   #5
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though that's not helping sales.
I'm afraid 3 mins also not helping sales - they say "FUCKOFFIWANTTOJERKOFFNOWMYWEENERISHARDASROCKANDYO UAREMESSINGWITHYOURADVERTISEMENTSINSTEADSHOWINGMEF REEFREEFREEPORNANDICANTJERKFUCKOFFIWILLGOTOCHATURB ATETOMASTURBATEBECAUSEYOURTUBESITESUCKSWITH3MINVID EOSFUCKOFFBANNEDFORLIFE" or something in the case... Or I'm thinking too much about visitors?
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Aren't they adding a way where you can sell your traffic from your hosted tubes? I wouldn't mind if it got any sales or not if you could sell traffic. I just put these tubes on domains I bought that sounded good at the time but realized they were shit...so I turn them into a tube. Hell if they made 1 sale a month or could sell $10 worth of traffic every month I would be happy.
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though that's not helping sales.
But it should help once Traffic Force is on them
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Aren't they adding a way where you can sell your traffic from your hosted tubes? I wouldn't mind if it got any sales or not if you could sell traffic. I just put these tubes on domains I bought that sounded good at the time but realized they were shit...so I turn them into a tube. Hell if they made 1 sale a month or could sell $10 worth of traffic every month I would be happy.
According to PR, it should be soon
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never really parked domains.
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Hell if they made 1 sale a month or could sell $10 worth of traffic every month I would be happy.
1 domain = $8
1 sale a year = $35
profit = $27

1000 domains = less than $8000
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10 000 domains = less than $80 000
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Traffic Force is being tested on Hostedtube.com right now, we're very close to going Public with it, just a few little kinks to work out here and there, looking good for this week tho.
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Traffic Force is being tested on Hostedtube.com right now, we're very close to going Public with it, just a few little kinks to work out here and there, looking good for this week tho.
Could you tell us a bit more about Traffic Force?
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Hell, you got me curious too.

Go on...
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Traffic Force is being tested on Hostedtube.com right now, we're very close to going Public with it, just a few little kinks to work out here and there, looking good for this week tho.
I'm very interested in this one too
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trafficforce.com explains it well. As for the integration we will explain all the details once we launch.
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Could you tell us a bit more about Traffic Force?
Of course I can. Once Traffic Force is fully working with Hosted Tube, we will sell your ads for you on all your tubes, we take care of everything. We market your ads to our Advertisers, we have a bidding system to encourage competition for traffic which in turn makes you guys more money. You get 50% of ALL revenue your tube generates in Traffic Force. What's more, you don't need a Traffic Force account to get paid, we post all the info to PIMPROLL for you and you get paid in your normal webmaster check.

A little bit more about Traffic Force below.

Traffic Force is our ad system we use to sell traffic on our network of sites. We started building the system with Hosted Tube in mind about 18 months ago now. After a 3 month beta testing period we launched to everyone in September 2011. We have 508 advertisers currently and serve over 2.5 billion ad impressions every month.

Fully self managed, Traffic Force allows you to bid for ad impressions on our sites such as Porn.com, Mobile.porn.com and mporn.com amongst others. With tools like Geo and Time targeting, you can ensure you are buying traffic from countries you can monetize the traffic from, as well as at times of the day when you know you can squeeze the most sales out of your advertising budget. We deliver real time statistics to you in your user interface that allows you to keep track of your traffic and get up to the minute data to ensure you make profits. Real time account funding via Paxum and Paypal also ensures you won't ever run out of funds.

We initially tested Traffic Force for 7 months in house while developing it, to make sure it worked the way we needed it to. It has many many features that make your life that little bit easier. We are still working on the system to make it even better, we have 3 huge features being developed right now that will be announced mid February that are sure to make our Advertisers very happy.

If anyone wants further info about Traffic Force, my contact information is in my sig, I'd be only too happy to talk to you and give you run down on our traffic levels on certain sites and give any advice needed to get campaigns going.

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Maximum length......maximum 10 videos.......



1 domain = $8
1 sale a year = $35
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1000 domains = less than $8000
1 sale a year = $35 000
profit = $27 000

10 000 domains = less than $80 000
1 sale a year = $350 000
profit = $270 000
Guarantee you it is not that easy.

Nice overall example, however a percentage of domains are likely to get zero sales over that time.
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anyhoo people going for the full length vids ot what length mostly?
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Sidenote mobile users love the full length lol

Hit me up if you need apps that embed your hosted tube

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I'm wondering what the traffic will sell for once Traffic Force is integrated. Can't wait! I think that will be the better solution for most people than trying to achieve sales, though a couple people have said they've been able to get some sales.
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This thread is so amusing.

Firstly. PJ it's not about the length of the videos, it's about the content in that clip. Was it shot specifically as a clip to advertise the site, entice the visitor to click on the link and go see the tour. Or is it just a few minutes from the scene and relying only on getting someone interested enough to bother to look at the link. Before he goes to jerk off to the next one?

Once you have the traffic it's reliant on the content to grab the attention and interest of the viewer enough to go see the site. Otherwise it's purely a numbers game throwing 1,000s of people at a clip in the hope one will eventually buy.

Or the traffic will sell for you at a few dollars per 1,000.

Seeing how some of you seen happy with this. I seriously wonder why you think you can criticise me. Because if that's what you traffic gurus are reduced to, then traffic isn't king. Unless it's king of a bankrupt kingdom.
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Guarantee you it is not that easy.

Nice overall example, however a percentage of domains are likely to get zero sales over that time.
I agree, but some will bring more than 1 sale a year!

Been there, done that......
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Paul, you have been amusing since 2001!
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Paul, you have been amusing since 2001!
Thank you, I try to please.

Here's an idea Ross that might get a few sales to your sites rather than turn one of your sites into a free tube selling ad space.

Spend a few hours watching a program like Hollywood on set, see how they promote a film. By interviews, clips and comments. Then spend a few hours watching how these mainstream movies put trailors together, cutting the best bits, putting in the names of the actors and other relevant things pertaining to the film. Maybe location, director, budget, actions, etc.

Then sit in a room with a laptop and write down how these models can be used as a promotion to your sites. Ending up with what you want the shooters to give you purely as a promotion tool to your site the scene or scenes shot on that day will work. Naturally the shooter has final say on the model or models who will be best to do the promotional work required.

Think in terms of people coming to your free tube to just jerk off for free and what it will take to get them to watch the actual trailor and then hit the link to see more. Then build up a library of these on the sites you feel this will suit best.

The idea is to rely less on traffic numbers and a lot more on selling.

Lastly imagine this idea came from Shap or some other Bro rather than me. Who has lasted so long and amused so many.
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i put mine at max length to increase time on site.
When I started in this business 13-14 years ago we had one simple rule that made lots of money and still works: The faster you can send surfers to a sponsor the more money you make.

Why you wanna hold them on a free site is beyond me.
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One flaw that hosted tube has (at least for now) is that we don't have a choice on what pimproll banners we the webmasters want to show in the ad spots.

I have a tube site there that I think will convert their ex-girlfriend site and some others but I keep getting banners for their midget and ebony preggo site when I don't have those 2 niches selected.

I think convertions can increase if we can choose what pimproll site banners to show in the ad spots.

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One flaw that hosted tube has (at least for now) is that we don't have a choice on what pimproll banners we the webmasters want to show in the ad spots.

I have a tube site there that I think will convert their ex-girlfriend site and some others but I keep getting banners for their midget and ebony preggo site when I don't have those 2 niches selected.

I think convertions can increase if we can choose what pimproll site banners to show in the ad spots.
The system will evolve and grow continually, we had to get it out there because it has been so successful with our own domains, but there is no doubt that we need to continue to tweek things and add functionality
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This thread is so amusing.

Firstly. PJ it's not about the length of the videos, it's about the content in that clip. Was it shot specifically as a clip to advertise the site, entice the visitor to click on the link and go see the tour. Or is it just a few minutes from the scene and relying only on getting someone interested enough to bother to look at the link. Before he goes to jerk off to the next one?

Once you have the traffic it's reliant on the content to grab the attention and interest of the viewer enough to go see the site. Otherwise it's purely a numbers game throwing 1,000s of people at a clip in the hope one will eventually buy.

Or the traffic will sell for you at a few dollars per 1,000.

Seeing how some of you seen happy with this. I seriously wonder why you think you can criticise me. Because if that's what you traffic gurus are reduced to, then traffic isn't king. Unless it's king of a bankrupt kingdom.
It's not all about content. If you take a paysite and you promote with all of the best content and I promote with all of the worst content, I'm pretty sure I can still make as many, if not more, sales...
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It's not all about content. If you take a paysite and you promote with all of the best content and I promote with all of the worst content, I'm pretty sure I can still make as many, if not more, sales...
You have just posted the dumbest thing I've read here for a while.

So to teach you a lesson and make you look stupid, here's what is right.

If I take the best content and promote the best site I will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site.

If you take the best content and promote the best site you will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site.

Once you have the traffic on your site, it's about the content they see there that puts the final cherry on the cake.

Yes your skills at getting traffic are better than mine. Still having something that will turn that traffic into a buyer, is what this game is about. This idea will cost affiliates nothing. Sponsors might have to get shooters who can do this, but it's not rocket science. I was doing it 20 years ago. All it takes is some fore thought and selection of the best models to do it.

Now the question is would you like promotional content that converts 10% than you already have?
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This thread is so amusing.

Firstly. PJ it's not about the length of the videos, it's about the content in that clip. Was it shot specifically as a clip to advertise the site, entice the visitor to click on the link and go see the tour. Or is it just a few minutes from the scene and relying only on getting someone interested enough to bother to look at the link. Before he goes to jerk off to the next one?

Once you have the traffic it's reliant on the content to grab the attention and interest of the viewer enough to go see the site. Otherwise it's purely a numbers game throwing 1,000s of people at a clip in the hope one will eventually buy.

Or the traffic will sell for you at a few dollars per 1,000.

Seeing how some of you seen happy with this. I seriously wonder why you think you can criticise me. Because if that's what you traffic gurus are reduced to, then traffic isn't king. Unless it's king of a bankrupt kingdom.
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It's not all about content. If you take a paysite and you promote with all of the best content and I promote with all of the worst content, I'm pretty sure I can still make as many, if not more, sales...
please no one respond to him. this could be a good thread about optimal promo length and he's going to derail it with stupid shit about magazines and viv thomas.

paul go start a thread about whether the internet should be regulated or something.
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you have no idea what i am doing with the site retard. plus i am also asking for people with actual experience not those who theorize all day without doing any actual testing. stop derailing this thread with your nonsense.
Well without testing and getting the stats, how do you know it's nonsense?

Are you saying what Hollywood do to promote a movie is theory?
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please no one respond to him. this could be a good thread about optimal promo length and he's going to derail it with stupid shit about magazines and viv thomas.

paul go start a thread about whether the internet should be regulated or something.
Id say if you're trying to get signups, set the video lengths to 3 and throttled to 5-10 since some people might skim a few before "paying attention". If you're trying to sell off traffic, Id set no limits and popup some other sites to the cams section or something similar to sell with TF once it's done.
But since it's impossible to tell without testing, Id look at Analytics and use a couple of domains to test or check back on this thread
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You have just posted the dumbest thing I've read here for a while.

So to teach you a lesson and make you look stupid, here's what is right.

If I take the best content and promote the best site I will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site.

If you take the best content and promote the best site you will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site.

Once you have the traffic on your site, it's about the content they see there that puts the final cherry on the cake.

Yes your skills at getting traffic are better than mine. Still having something that will turn that traffic into a buyer, is what this game is about. This idea will cost affiliates nothing. Sponsors might have to get shooters who can do this, but it's not rocket science. I was doing it 20 years ago. All it takes is some fore thought and selection of the best models to do it.

Now the question is would you like promotional content that converts 10% than you already have?
What about content that gets a surfer to get off before realizing he has a cc?

Ive seen that lower quality pics/video with an attractive girl or good hardcore content converts better because the surfer might think "Hey this is good, but I want to see it in HD" which is why I posted what I did...

Plus I promote with thousands of longtails so that makes a difference being micro niche as opposed to porn quality..
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The thread where the industries 'adapters' meets. looooooooooooool
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Interstitial ads and in-video ads are coming too.

Brand new premium sections is being added.

Top end mobile templates as well.
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Well without testing and getting the stats, how do you know it's nonsense?

Are you saying what Hollywood do to promote a movie is theory?
that's a completely different product. People don't go to the theatre to alleviate sexual impulses, not compared to what we are selling, so comparing the two is nonsense.
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please no one respond to him. this could be a good thread about optimal promo length and he's going to derail it with stupid shit about magazines and viv thomas.

paul go start a thread about whether the internet should be regulated or something.
No one respond to me, except PJ.
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Hey man, I think we're both right in different ways. You produce content and of course quality content is what makes money since people surfing to big name sites expect the best, good lighting/video quality, consistent girls and updates, new content, etc.

For most people selling porn, they sell as affiliates and worry about traffic, seo, targeting niche, automation, payout, blackhat, etc., which are all things that content creators care nothing about..
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I have heard two schools of thought with regards to setting video lengths and both sound like they can be useful.

1. Setting the video length shorter will generally convert better because they will get tired of short teaser clips and want to view longer ones. However, it also makes your tube less sticky to them and they may not come back because of it so your return traffic or book markers will be smaller.

2. Give them full length clips so they will stay longer on the sites and will definitely come back and even book mark them, which will help with google rankings as bounce rate and length on sites can help with seo. This one may be more profitable down the road when trafficforce is put into the mix (coming soon, i assure you)
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Good stuff.
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Like Fabian said in one thread awhile back, 3 minutes are best for sales, 5+ are best for increasing traffic.

Would be cool if there were a way to mix.
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I have heard two schools of thought with regards to setting video lengths and both sound like they can be useful.

1. Setting the video length shorter will generally convert better because they will get tired of short teaser clips and want to view longer ones. However, it also makes your tube less sticky to them and they may not come back because of it so your return traffic or book markers will be smaller.

2. Give them full length clips so they will stay longer on the sites and will definitely come back and even book mark them, which will help with google rankings as bounce rate and length on sites can help with seo. This one may be more profitable down the road when trafficforce is put into the mix (coming soon, i assure you)
Is it possible to request custom CSS if I can code it to auto pop a lightbox (all CSS and one line of js) that forces a +1 click before viewing the tube to boost +1 metrics, or at least to test it on a domain that I don't use much?
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