Ron Paul's Neo-Confederate "South Was Right" Civil War Speech - GoFuckYourself.com

Coup · 02-05-2012, 09:45 AM

DISGUSTING

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Ron Paul has made no secret the fact that he thought that the South was right in the Civil War. Here he is giving a speech in front of a giant Confederate Flag about why he believes the North was wrong in the Civil War and why the South was right. Ron Paul is a neo-Confederate, and proud member of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which has been labeled as a neo-Confederate organization. In the video he claims that the North should have paid to buy slaves from southern slave owners to avoid the war, rather than the South renouncing slavery. Paul also fails to bring up the fact that it was the South that started the war on April 12, 1861, when Confederate artillery opened fire on Fort Sumter.

IllTestYourGirls · 02-05-2012, 11:30 AM

You mean, avoid war, abolish slavery, and pay off the slave owners, just like how most other countries did it? Yeah, how crazy is that!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

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Under the terms of the Act the British government raised £20 million to pay out in compensation for the loss of the slaves as business assets to the registered owners of the freed slaves. The names listed in the returns for slave compensation show that ownership was spread over many hundreds of British families,[12] many of them of high social standing. For example, Henry Phillpotts (then the Bishop of Exeter), in a partnership with three business colleagues, received £12,700 for 665 slaves in the West Indies.[13] The majority of men and women who were awarded compensation under the 1833 Abolition Act are listed in a Parliamentary Return, entitled Slavery Abolition Act, which is an account of all moneys awarded by the Commissioners of Slave Compensation in the Parliamentary Papers 1837-8 Vol. 48.

In all, the government paid out over 40,000 separate awards. The £20 million fund was 40% of the government's total annual expenditure.

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Centralized government is bad. What a shocker!

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onwebcam · 02-05-2012, 02:03 PM

He's right slavery wasn't why, just like now they used they slavery theme so they could get more liberal/democratic/big gov/socialistic voters. After the war the majority of the voters were black voters in the south.

Cherry7 · 02-05-2012, 02:18 PM

You need government because capitalism fails...

to build houses for all

To support a health service for all

To defend the country

To educate people

To build roads and infrastructure

To manage the economy in a rational way

To provide work for all its people

To give all its people food and the means of life

Therefore all capitalist societies have to be managed or capitalism would destroy itself...

In fact Reagan and Thatcher with their nutty neo liberal economics have almost done that.

onwebcam · 02-05-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

You need government because capitalism fails...

to build houses for all

The government doesn't build houses in the US thank god. Those that are government funded through various programs always turn out to be ghettos.

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To support a health service for all

The UK "free for all" healthcare system is a failure. The new US system is as well already. Insurance premiums have skyrocketed since it's passing. In a true capitalistic market they would drop from competition.

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To defend the country

One of the very few things the national government should do. Policing the World isn't included in that.

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

To educate people

educate or indoctrinate? The cost of college in the US is not affordable for the majority of people and puts them into a lifetime of debt because the government forces those colleges who receive government funding to increase their prices to meet requirements. Local schools are paid for by property taxes. The national government should have nothing to do with them. No child left behind is a great example of a national government intervention failure.

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To build roads and infrastructure

Big misconception that the national government funds roads in the US. They are generally built using gas tax revenues locally via the state. Those that don't use this system in the US have shitty roads. Those that do have surplus revenues and this is all based on consumption>capitalism.

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

To manage the economy in a rational way

The problems with the economy aren't from capitalism failing it's from government intervention in the capitalistic market. Everything the government gets involved in increases prices. The prices have exceeded that which people can afford to fund an overbloated bureaucracy via taxation/subsidies and price manipulation.

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To provide work for all its people

Correction to provide pay checks to those who don't work. And/or creating another government job which takes away 4 jobs from the private sector.

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

To give all its people food and the means of life

Government subsidies and monetary policy increases the price for everyone in the World.

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Therefore all capitalist societies have to be managed or capitalism would destroy itself...

In fact Reagan and Thatcher with their nutty neo liberal economics have almost done that.

See all of the above..

Last but not least the European Union is a failure.

Cherry7 · 02-06-2012, 03:10 AM

If you think the NHS in Britain is a failure you are brainwashed.

Satisfaction with the UK NHS is so high that the Right dare not openly fuck with it.

Our system is cheaper and better than the US model which has results worse than many underdeveloped countries.

u-Bob · 02-06-2012, 04:30 AM

If anyone still believes that Lincoln had any intention to free the slaves then ask yourself the following question: why didn't the emancipation proclamation apply to the Border States?

Sunny Day · 02-06-2012, 05:19 AM

[The UK "free for all" healthcare system is a failure. The new US system is as well already. Insurance premiums have skyrocketed since it's passing. In a true capitalistic market they would drop from competition.]

Most bankruptcies in the US are for medical bills.

[Big misconception that the national government funds roads in the US. They are generally built using gas tax revenues locally via the state. Those that don't use this system in the US have shitty roads. Those that do have surplus revenues and this is all based on consumption>capitalism.]

90% of all funds for the Interstate highways and a good chunk of US Highways monies come from the US Highway Trust fund which gets it monies from the federal gasoline tax and the diesel fuel tax.
The Interstates were originally called The National Defense Highways, built to move troops and equipment in time of war. Eisenhower started the program after he graduated from West point and was assigned to drive a truck caravan across the dirt roads of the US to see if it could be done.

Fletch XXX · 02-06-2012, 06:13 AM

the civil war was fought over states rights not slavery. anyone with an education and sat in a modern history class knows this.

if he is supporting state rights he is absolutely right.

the same state rights exist today and is why california has different policy on marijuana than other states with mandatory sentencing.

state rights are good. american history teaches us we already fought over this and state rights still stand.

adendreams · 02-06-2012, 06:17 AM

Its really too bad that the only Republican with sane views about foreign policy and American aggression is such a nutjob.

Cherry7 · 02-06-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

Its really too bad that the only Republican with sane views about foreign policy and American aggression is such a nutjob.

Comes with the territory.

If your trying to persuade normal people that they should support the 1% who have the wealth and power you have to come up with some wacky ideas

God - Ideas from the Bronze age, or in the case or Mormons case from the mad house

Family - but they can't keep their pants on

Big Government - which gets bigger feeding defense contractors fighting foreign wars

onwebcam · 02-06-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

If you think the NHS in Britain is a failure you are brainwashed.

Satisfaction with the UK NHS is so high that the Right dare not openly fuck with it.

Our system is cheaper and better than the US model which has results worse than many underdeveloped countries.

How could you not be satisfied with "free." When I get something for free my expectations aren't very high.

oh and

UK
Income Tax Rate 50%tax-rates-up

UK
Corporate Tax Rate 28%

UK
Sales Tax / VAT Rate 17.5%tax-rates-up

I guess you're paying for "free"

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[The UK "free for all" healthcare system is a failure. The new US system is as well already. Insurance premiums have skyrocketed since it's passing. In a true capitalistic market they would drop from competition.]

Most bankruptcies in the US are for medical bills.

[Big misconception that the national government funds roads in the US. They are generally built using gas tax revenues locally via the state. Those that don't use this system in the US have shitty roads. Those that do have surplus revenues and this is all based on consumption>capitalism.]

90% of all funds for the Interstate highways and a good chunk of US Highways monies come from the US Highway Trust fund which gets it monies from the federal gasoline tax and the diesel fuel tax.
The Interstates were originally called The National Defense Highways, built to move troops and equipment in time of war. Eisenhower started the program after he graduated from West point and was assigned to drive a truck caravan across the dirt roads of the US to see if it could be done.

Gas tax. I said that. Based on capitalistic consumption. The highways are in part paid for by the federal government and in part locally. Highways are very rarely built anymore. We have them already. Maintaining mostly comes local. The only reason the feds are involved is to make them feel important. Also in a consumer/capitalist fashion (which I don't agree with) the federal government is now trying to sell off said highways paid for by public money to private companies so they can charge tolls. This takes the financial burden off them and you can bet they won't drop the gas tax when they do. After all they need those funds for the war on air.

Sunny Day · 02-06-2012, 11:29 AM

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Gas tax. I said that. Based on capitalistic consumption. The highways are in part paid for by the federal government and in part locally. Highways are very rarely built anymore. We have them already. Maintaining mostly comes local. The only reason the feds are involved is to make them feel important. Also in a consumer/capitalist fashion (which I don't agree with) the federal government is now trying to sell off said highways paid for by public money to private companies so they can charge tolls. This takes the financial burden off them and you can bet they won't drop the gas tax when they do. After all they need those funds for the war on air.

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/...ighway-funding

The Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration will spend about $52 billion in fiscal 2010, of which about $11 billion is from the 2009 economic stimulus bill.1 FHWA's budget mainly consists of grants to state governments, and FHWA programs are primarily funded from taxes on gasoline and other fuels.2

Get your facts straight not RePubThug or Paul B.S.

Sunny Day · 02-06-2012, 11:39 AM

http://www.interstate-guide.com/future.html

Actually the 1st US highways were built by local businesses, such as the Lincoln Highway - US 6, but they knew they couldn't do it alone and appealed to state govt. to help. Which in turn brought in the feds for more money and coordination.

http://nationalatlas.gov/articles/tr...a_highway.html

Face it. This is not 1776. Times have changed. The founding fathers never conceived of cars, TV, computers or the Internet. but they did leave The Constitution open for change. Ron Paul believes The Constitution should have NO amendments. Including those that concern slavery or the right for women to vote.

porno jew · 02-06-2012, 11:40 AM

only neo-confederate cranks believe the civil war was fought over state's rights.

onwebcam · 02-06-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/...ighway-funding

The Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration will spend about $52 billion in fiscal 2010, of which about $11 billion is from the 2009 economic stimulus bill.1 FHWA's budget mainly consists of grants to state governments, and FHWA programs are primarily funded from taxes on gasoline and other fuels.2

Get your facts straight not RePubThug or Paul B.S.

You're argument doesn't stand either way. Because all of the roads are paid for by a CONSUMPTION tax

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day

http://www.interstate-guide.com/future.html

Actually the 1st US highways were built by local businesses, such as the Lincoln Highway - US 6, but they knew they couldn't do it alone and appealed to state govt. to help. Which in turn brought in the feds for more money and coordination.

http://nationalatlas.gov/articles/tr...a_highway.html

Face it. This is not 1776. Times have changed. The founding fathers never conceived of cars, TV, computers or the Internet. but they did leave The Constitution open for change. Ron Paul believes The Constitution should have NO amendments. Including those that concern slavery or the right for women to vote.

the way roads are paid for would be right up RP's alley. Based on consumption.. I think you're quite safe with your women's rights and slavery with the current constitution. Let the fools running the show now touch it and you might have GMO foods REQUIRED by law like they have in the new Iraq constitution.

Rochard · 02-06-2012, 11:56 AM

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Sunny Day · 02-06-2012, 11:58 AM

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You're argument doesn't stand either way. Because all of the roads are paid for by a CONSUMPTION tax

the way roads are paid for would be right up RP's alley. Based on consumption.. I think you're quite safe with your women's rights and slavery with the current constitution. Let the fools running the show now touch it and you might have GMO foods REQUIRED by law like they have in the new Iraq constitution.

No matter what kind of tax, It was the Feds not local or state that built the Interstates.
i have no love for the Dems or Reps. Just the Repubs seem closer to the Devil.
(by the way I am an atheist, so Devil is a relative term).

I love govt. for highways. They need upgrading. Thousands of American jobs.
On the same token -- GMO Foods are wrong in the wild. Maybe(?) in big greenhouses.

I'm not a scientist. Just pretend to be one on the "Internets."

porno jew · 02-06-2012, 11:59 AM

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arock10 · 02-06-2012, 12:16 PM

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Sunny Day · 02-06-2012, 12:17 PM

The idea of redlight cameras is wrong.
But the idea of traffic lights, or stop signs I accept.
Should we all blow through a major intersection at 80 mph or take our fair turn??
A simple govt problem.

Get rid of all those damn traffic signs in your town. Then don't bitch when one of your love ones die in a traffic problem.

"We got rid of the illegal US Govt."

Right

onwebcam · 02-06-2012, 12:31 PM

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No matter what kind of tax, It was the Feds not local or state that built the Interstates.
i have no love for the Dems or Reps. Just the Repubs seem closer to the Devil.
(by the way I am an atheist, so Devil is a relative term).

I love govt. for highways. They need upgrading. Thousands of American jobs.
On the same token -- GMO Foods are wrong in the wild. Maybe(?) in big greenhouses.

I'm not a scientist. Just pretend to be one on the "Internets."

Built is your keyword. The highway system was built many years ago. The federal government adds a tax just like many states do so they can ad their

to MAINTAIN. Those states that add an ADDITIONAL consumption based gas tax have the nice roads. Those that don't (mostly north eastern primarily democratic states) have shitty roads.

GMO foods are good for no one except those that would like to patent and/or tax even the air you breathe. I think that's called "cap and trade" You see eventually there will be no heirloom seeds except those hidden in vaults by the likes of Bill Gates who's "trust" owns a very large portion of Monsanto and you won't even be able to grow food in your backyard without buying their patented seeds. 1000's of years of natural food history being evaporated right before your eyes and you don't even know it. Oh and your beloved government wants you to have a license to grow said food in your backyard so they can do regular inspections.

Creating jobs? It's an indisputable FACT that for every government job created FOUR private sector jobs are lost. Besides how many people do you know who work on roads? My guess would be none.

Cherry7 · 02-08-2012, 04:50 AM

[QUOTE=onwebcam;18738043]How could you not be satisfied with "free." When I get something for free my expectations aren't very high.

oh and

UK
Income Tax Rate 50%tax-rates-up

UK
Corporate Tax Rate 28%

UK
Sales Tax / VAT Rate 17.5%tax-rates-up

I guess you're paying for "free"

QUOTE]

Wrong on both counts, the health care you get in the UK is one of the best in the world.

And it is free, if you are ill you never have to pay for the cure of your illness.

Yes, if we are healthy and able to pay tax, that pays for it, and it is cheaper for all of us than private care.

Nobody in the UK has been ruined because of their illness or the illness of one of their family. It is called civilization.

Fletch XXX · 02-08-2012, 06:16 AM

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only neo-confederate cranks believe the civil war was fought over state's rights.

oh look an uneducated foreigner who knows nothing about American history spouting off. Did you attend an American college? if so youd know the truth.

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Many historians would disagree with your statement that slavery was the central cause of the Civil War. They would point to the issue of states' rights as the central cause, and that issue is front and center today. It is time to put the ancient and divisive issue of slavery behind us.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...rs14_ST1_N.htm

the issue of slavery polarized the union, however, state rights were the central debate of the time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

maybe you should go back to school, did you finish high school? they save the real debates for you know, a college campus....

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yeah you gonna win.

TheSquealer · 02-08-2012, 07:16 AM

Uhmm. He's from Texas? You know, the state that has a large monument in front of its capitol building commemorating the 13 confederate states and their heroic stand and fighting to resist the tyranny of the north...

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