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Old 02-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #1
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Great Day For Internet Freedom: Kim Dotcom Released

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I heard he lost 45 pounds while he was in the pen
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Just a great day for that fat bastard, not internet freedom.

He can't run. If he does he'll be a fugitive and his days of living large (or living at any level other than off the grid) are over. If they found Bin Ladin in a house in Pakistan and Sadaam in a hole, they will have no problems finding this flamboyant German tub of shit.

He's probably fucked either way. He's fucked if he runs, probably fucked if he stays. Unless they really screwed up during his arrest and he walks on some technicality, he's done for. Best he can hope for is a fatal heart attack while he sleeps.
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Just a great day for that fat bastard, not internet freedom.

He can't run. If he does he'll be a fugitive and his days of living large (or living at any level other than off the grid) are over. If they found Bin Ladin in a house in Pakistan and Sadaam in a hole, they will have no problems finding this flamboyant German tub of shit.

He's probably fucked either way. He's fucked if he runs, probably fucked if he stays. Unless they really screwed up during his arrest and he walks on some technicality, he's done for. Best he can hope for is a fatal heart attack while he sleeps.
He'll just go to a country where they can't touch him.
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He'll just go to a country where they can't touch him.
I'm sure Julian Assange had the same idea. Everyone can see how that worked out for him. When they want you, they get you. One way or another.

The USA carries a big stick, and unless the guy is a passport carrying citizen of the country he is hiding in that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the USA (or other nations he would then be a fugitive of), he's screwed. Not that he couldn't buy his way into a citizenship somewhere, but it would be a long shot at this point, as he would already be a fugitive out of the gate. And even if he manages to pull it off, they will fuck him at the bank(s).

The world is not such an easy place to hide in anymore. The walls have been closing in for a while. In the digital age, every move you make is recorded in some manner. ATMs, phone calls, travel, email, chat, banking, you name it. Not easy to move around these days.
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the us is trying to extradite him. it's going to take years as the extradition treaty doesn't exactly fit in this case.
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Old 02-21-2012, 05:32 PM   #12
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Nice game of whack-a-mole they are playing

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i think he's on a no-flight list
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Nice game of whack-a-mole they are playing

those replacement file lockers fucking suck. just tried to download a porn vid and said i would have to wait 9 hours. fuck that. i miss filesonic.
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I'm sure Julian Assange had the same idea. Everyone can see how that worked out for him. When they want you, they get you. One way or another.

The USA carries a big stick, and unless the guy is a passport carrying citizen of the country he is hiding in that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the USA (or other nations he would then be a fugitive of), he's screwed. Not that he couldn't buy his way into a citizenship somewhere, but it would be a long shot at this point, as he would already be a fugitive out of the gate. And even if he manages to pull it off, they will fuck him at the bank(s).

The world is not such an easy place to hide in anymore. The walls have been closing in for a while. In the digital age, every move you make is recorded in some manner. ATMs, phone calls, travel, email, chat, banking, you name it. Not easy to move around these days.

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I'm sure Julian Assange had the same idea. Everyone can see how that worked out for him. When they want you, they get you. One way or another.

The USA carries a big stick, and unless the guy is a passport carrying citizen of the country he is hiding in that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the USA (or other nations he would then be a fugitive of), he's screwed. Not that he couldn't buy his way into a citizenship somewhere, but it would be a long shot at this point, as he would already be a fugitive out of the gate. And even if he manages to pull it off, they will fuck him at the bank(s).

The world is not such an easy place to hide in anymore. The walls have been closing in for a while. In the digital age, every move you make is recorded in some manner. ATMs, phone calls, travel, email, chat, banking, you name it. Not easy to move around these days.
He's a German citizen and they don't honor extradition laws with the U.S. regarding their own citizens. If he can get there, he's home free. The problem is, he wants his $50 million.
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he would need the hell of a costume to get through airport security...

if he was in Europe or so I would say he'd have a chance - but New Zealand? how do you get away from there? Maybe he can ask Sauron for asylum...

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it will be years before his case comes to trial...if hes even found guilty ..years of him free on appeal...still found guilty...years of extradition hearings...

he wont spend a day incarcerated in the United States of America.

if anything at end of day some bullshit house arrest with probation.
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he's not going to run. he's a word famous celebrity now. even my dad knows who he is.
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I'd say its pretty certain that he was forced to surrender his passport after he was arrested.

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private yacht...does spain extradite?
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the us is trying to extradite him. it's going to take years as the extradition treaty doesn't exactly fit in this case.
So what are you saying? He's living on borrowed time before all his money is confiscated and maybe his freedom? Does that sound like a fun 'couple of years'?

US legal can fight for as many years as it takes and not care for one bit. But defending yourself for those same years is gonna be stressful and painful for any individual. Not fun times.
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he would need the hell of a costume to get through airport security...

if he was in Europe or so I would say he'd have a chance - but New Zealand? how do you get away from there?
Would airport security apply to private charter?
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does anyone really think this guy will be able to go anywhere without being noticed?

he's a fucking folk here.

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So what are you saying? He's living on borrowed time before all his money is confiscated and maybe his freedom? Does that sound like a fun 'couple of years'?

US legal can fight for as many years as it takes and not care for one bit. But defending yourself for those same years is gonna be stressful and painful for any individual. Not fun times.
I wouldn't be surprised if the guy has stacks of money cemented into his floors in his house and stashed away all over the world "just in case"
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Nice game of whack-a-mole they are playing

Which proves current laws are useless. They need to hit the source of the problem, the money suppliers.

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I'm sure he does, but going from 100 million and 25 million house to having 2 million and some luxury condo is still gonna sting.
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if he was in Europe or so I would say he'd have a chance - but New Zealand? how do you get away from there? Maybe he can ask Sauron for asylum...

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Does it matter what happens to him? They got what they wanted. They closed the site down, and it's not returning. Mission accomplished for them. Without even having a trial...
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He's a German citizen and they don't honor extradition laws with the U.S. regarding their own citizens. If he can get there, he's home free. The problem is, he wants his $50 million.
IF he gets there, he has to stay there forever. And like you said, he's going to want his 50 million.

Off topic about German citizens, are they still required to pay taxes to Germany if they are expats working / living abroad?
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That's what I'm thinking. If he doesn't, he's as big of a dumb ass as he is a lard ass.
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no, once you are officially not a resident anymore you dont have to pay taxes in Germany - unless you are a shareholder in a company or have any other sources of income in Germany
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Just another thought.

If the Feds have all the info from the site. Would this include info on downloaders?

Such as IP address, email, CC number, etc. Would they pass this over to the companies who were pirated against?

Imagine the record, film, games, etc. companies getting hold of a list of downloaders with all their info.
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Just another thought.

If the Feds have all the info from the site. Would this include info on downloaders?

Such as IP address, email, CC number, etc. Would they pass this over to the companies who were pirated against?

Imagine the record, film, games, etc. companies getting hold of a list of downloaders with all their info.

In Germany they have already announced to go after the premium users of kino.to - which was btw largely based on megaupload links

it was a german site - run by german citizens - thats probably why it wasnt talked much about on here, but about 10-15 people have been arrested for running kino.to or uploading content for them. and a couple have been already sentenced.
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I'm sure Julian Assange had the same idea. Everyone can see how that worked out for him. When they want you, they get you. One way or another.

The USA carries a big stick, and unless the guy is a passport carrying citizen of the country he is hiding in that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the USA (or other nations he would then be a fugitive of), he's screwed. Not that he couldn't buy his way into a citizenship somewhere, but it would be a long shot at this point, as he would already be a fugitive out of the gate. And even if he manages to pull it off, they will fuck him at the bank(s).

The world is not such an easy place to hide in anymore. The walls have been closing in for a while. In the digital age, every move you make is recorded in some manner. ATMs, phone calls, travel, email, chat, banking, you name it. Not easy to move around these days.


I thought you were an intelligent guy.

Tell me - how long has Julian been in an American gaol?
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lolll this guy will walk money talks it'll go away just like the online poker shit.
He will not walk away and the reason is money talks

He fucked with other people's money / profits for too long

If he's out on a bail, no way to hide for him

All his flamboyant bullshit will come back and haunt him
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:04 AM   #50
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I wouldn't be surprised if the guy has stacks of money cemented into his floors in his house and stashed away all over the world "just in case"
If he hasn't he's a fat idiot.
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