Is free dating site with 3000 profiles worth $$?

[mineistaken]

Confirmed email premium countries profiles, site is free adult dating (does not have paid features). Are these leads worth any money?
Dating sites are paying affiliates few dolars per email lead. So I am thinking could this site be worth few thousands? At the very least 1$ per lead? Probably for dating companies that could incorporate those leads to their bigger sites (or develop that site of course).
Not selling, just want to know what people think.
Thanks

[lucas131]

you can spam those people with chaturbate and webcams and dating offers and make some money if you are lucky, so yes it is worth money imho

[JA$ON]

not a lot to be honest. 3000 just ant very many. You could get lucky and send the to a cam site on revshare and get a whale, but chances are slim. Id keep doing whatever you did to get the first 3k and keep it growing.

[mineistaken]

Like I said dating sites are paying affiliates up to 5$ per lead so they should be worth something. My target buyer would probably be dating program, not someone who would buy them in order to spam affiliate offers. Just is there any way big dating program could incorporate those leads to their own site.

[Wizzo]

Though you do need to keep growing it, you can always add some ads from Exoclick to get some revenues flowing!

[KillerK]

It's worth something but not $15k or 3k.

Maybe $500

[babymaker]

Just send them to the free no confirmation chaturbate cam site and prob 80% would sign up getting you $1 on each and then you still own them people sign up for chaturbate real easy i'm loving it so far it's easy money.

p.s. not that sending to a dating site would be bad but then you might lose them email them if its allowed the chaturbate links recomended or just add it on the site itself, then you make 2k or so depending however many sign up and you don't lose your surfer

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by KillerK

It's worth something but not $15k or 3k.

Maybe $500

Ok, but can someone explain why?

500$ is 0.17$ each profile. Dating sponsors pays 3$ or even up to 5$ per same profile to affiliates. How come my profiles would be worth 20 or even 30 TIMES (!!!) lower?
These leads are not spammed by the way as well.

In my eyes in both situations there is an email lead of person who wants to date online. There is no 20 or 30 times(!!!) lead value difference, simply can not be...
Like If I send email lead to any sponsor I get 3$, but if I try to sell simillar unspammed lead from my dating site its worth only 0.17$. How come? Ok I would undesratnd 2 times, 3 times difference in value. But 20 times?

Can someone from dating companies step up and answer this question?

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Ok, but can someone explain why?

500$ is 0.17$ each profile. Dating sponsors pays 3$ or even up to 5$ per same profile to affiliates. How come my profiles would be worth 20 or even 30 TIMES (!!!) lower?
These leads are not spammed by the way as well.

Why are you even asking? Any time someone gives an opinion that's different to what you want to think, you go on about how some places give $5 a lead. Cool, why not put ads up for that $5 a lead on your dating site and obviously every one of your members will sign up and obviously the sponsor will pay out $5 without any conditions, making you an easy $15k. Why are you asking? You already know the answer.

[SexKey Scott]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Though you do need to keep growing it, you can always add some ads from Exoclick to get some revenues flowing!

Nice one Wizz

[Sly]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Ok, but can someone explain why?

500$ is 0.17$ each profile. Dating sponsors pays 3$ or even up to 5$ per same profile to affiliates. How come my profiles would be worth 20 or even 30 TIMES (!!!) lower?
These leads are not spammed by the way as well.

In my eyes in both situations there is an email lead of person who wants to date online. There is no 20 or 30 times(!!!) lead value difference, simply can not be...
Like If I send email lead to any sponsor I get 3$, but if I try to sell simillar unspammed lead from my dating site its worth only 0.17$. How come? Ok I would undesratnd 2 times, 3 times difference in value. But 20 times?

Can someone from dating companies step up and answer this question?

Volume and trust factor come into mind.

With 3000 members, it's likely that your site is fairly new or obviously fairly small. With a new site or a small site, you're not going to have member loyalty. How many of those people login regularly? And are they actually finding what they are looking for? Perhaps if it is a local site.

Now if you have 3000 members that are very specific to a certain demographic, they correspond with each other, and they trust you as a site operator... you have some nice value there and could make some decent money from it. As of right now, you are more than likely just another dating site operator amongst a sea of thousands.

[EddyTheDog]

Perhaps you could start with one of the sites with an API. I was looking at one just a few hours ago and now cant find it. I will look.

[96ukssob]

depending on the data, could be worth $1 each.

if they opted into marketing and they gave a lot of info and verified their account, you can market to them... or resell it

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Why are you even asking? Any time someone gives an opinion that's different to what you want to think, you go on about how some places give $5 a lead.

I do not have set opinion, I was merely asking that guy to explain why does he think those profiles would be worth 20-30 TIMES (that is shocking difference, admit it) less if I send them to my site instead of lets say sponsor white label.
He just gave that number but did not elaborate, so I am just asking, is that all right with you?

Take it like this, I get the SAME EXACT SURFER who signs up to:
a) my own dating site
b) some sponsor's white label site

I can understand 2, 3 times value difference, but I can not understand SAME EXACT SURFER being 20-30 times valuable.

Sly gave some good points why would it be less valuable and I completely agree, but 20 times less?


Ps: Nobody spoke about integration of those leads into the bigger site. Could that be done? Big program buying them and someway integrating them into their site.

Pps: 0.17$ per clean confirmed email lead is too low simply because, like few already mentioned, you can email them and easily earn that during the time. Plus you would still hold the site after that..

[David!]

Talk to Sharky, he'll show you how you can monetize those members right when they sign up with his new lead management system; http://www.leadwrench.com/

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Why are you even asking? Any time someone gives an opinion that's different to what you want to think, you go on about how some places give $5 a lead. Cool, why not put ads up for that $5 a lead on your dating site and obviously every one of your members will sign up and obviously the sponsor will pay out $5 without any conditions, making you an easy $15k. Why are you asking? You already know the answer.

And no I do not say they are worth 5$ a lead, I just mentioned up to 5$ for the sake of argument. If you want to know my own opinion I would say they should be worth 1-2$ a lead. But that does not mean I do not respect other opinions. Its just that I give my arguments of why its worth 1-2$ and I want to hear arguments why they are worth 0.17$ if someone gives that number. Fair enough?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Send me info about the site. paymealot /// gmail. Also include members access so I can take a look at the whole site.

[Sharky]

Originally Posted by David!

Talk to Sharky, he'll show you how you can monetize those members right when they sign up with his new lead management system; http://www.leadwrench.com/

Thanks David!

I didn't see this thread earlier.

Mineistaken,
The reason your 3k profiles are not worth $5 a pop is that they are FREE members and probably not very active on a site with only 3k members.

How long has the site been up?
How many users are male? Female?
What are their age range?
Where are they located?
Do you do any ongoing marketing to the users?
What software are you using?

I can show you how to monetize these users better, but I can't squeeze blood from a rock. Talk to me and let me see what I can do to help.

[astronaut x]

3000 pennies

[Scat in the Hat]

Amounts per e-mail lead that the dating companies payout are usually variable depending on performance. If your leads are not generating significant revenue you will be switched out to revshare in most cases.

As a few people said, without more details and analytics regarding user activity and behavior, it's difficult to come to an accurate valuation.

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

And no I do not say they are worth 5$ a lead, I just mentioned up to 5$ for the sake of argument. If you want to know my own opinion I would say they should be worth 1-2$ a lead. But that does not mean I do not respect other opinions. Its just that I give my arguments of why its worth 1-2$ and I want to hear arguments why they are worth 0.17$ if someone gives that number. Fair enough?

If you got a buyer who will pay more than a $1 for leads, please let me know and i'll sell them leads too.

Either they will say api them, and pay you per sale. I don't know of anyone who pays per lead via api.

[DatingGameExpert]

Who knows what it's worth. It's 3000, not a big number. I would do the api thing, or just email them telling them that you upgraded the site > then send them to $5 per lead. Then hit them with cams later on. Then move on. You are over-thinking it.

[nextri]

The reason why they are not worth that much is because no one will ever get all of them to sign up to anything. If you send them all to something that gives you $5 per free, chances are that you will be very luck if you get 10% of them to sign up for it. More likely it will be 2-3% of them.
So you won't find anyone willing to pay you $5 for every member.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by nextri

The reason why they are not worth that much is because no one will ever get all of them to sign up to anything.

I am not even thinking about sending them to signup for anything, I I wanted to go that route I would not even consider selling, I would just try to send them to signup for affiliate offer lol.

I was thinking along the lines of integrating them, not sending them onvites to signup for another site lol

And please stop mentioning 5$, I am not aiming at that, this number was just mentioned for the whole picture of up to how much dating sponsors pay per FREE CONFIRMED EMAIL LEADS.
It has nothing to do with what I value my leads!!

Stop speaking about 5$ per lead, please