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Old 03-19-2012, 02:13 AM   #51
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The sky is not falling. However,

The president DID just declare that the government can take and allocate all resources even without an emergency.

That IS pretty fucked up


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(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.
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god forbid the government is prepared if a nuke struck ny.
God forbid there is a non-emergency situation.



Did you actually read it or are you just trolling today?

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this cant be true...there would have to be 1000's of people involved...lol

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I like how he signed this in... Then the following day, showed up an an Irish Pub to celebrate St. Patty's.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/...t-patricks-day
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god forbid the government is prepared if a nuke struck ny.
they couldnt even handle a plane flying into a couple buildings at the same time let alone a nuke.

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Seriously can't be bothered to read all that shit. It doesn't even fit in my Iphone. I skimmed through it sure but ... obviously the government has all this under control and our best interests at heart. The economy is on the move and jobs are coming back, can't you feel it ? Trust in the Lord and stop reading so much
That's the problem, most of the morons don't take time to read then they are the one to complain.
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This is just nutjob stuff, the government isn't going to grab our stuff for no reason....

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seems like none of you have been in new orleans during a hurricane and its mandatory evacuations LOL

when martial law is issued your rights are GONE, its been that way and the govetrnment has ALWAYS had that power over its citizens.

its nothing new, and as I said, growing up in new orleans during hurricanes seeing cops and military with guns telling you stay in your home and not come out after 6 pm is nazi shit. ever been threatened with arrest if you leave your home? we have.

and its been that way for over 30 years....
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So let me see if I understand this, Starting March 16th, The federal government has the authority to take control of everything in the country. Good God, panic, run through the streets screaming, we haven't see the government with this kind of authority sine.......................oh no, we have to look all the way back to March 15th
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so the crazies have officially taken over this board then?

fucking pathetic..
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so the crazies have officially taken over this board then?

fucking pathetic..
I am glad I am very well armed..
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yes i read it. and i researched it. this is nothing new. these laws have always been on the books in some form since roosvelt.

you look like an idiot thinking this the beginning of the nwo crack down.


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God forbid there is a non-emergency situation.



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so the crazies have officially taken over this board then?

fucking pathetic..


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I like how he signed this in... Then the following day, showed up an an Irish Pub to celebrate St. Patty's.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/...t-patricks-day


Why not, he celebrated New Years right after signing the NDAA. What neat things do they have planned for Easter ?
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What made usa unpopular in many parts of the world in the past was the eager of usa to police other countries, their resources and their policies on human rights.
Now the same rights is being given to the usa by the usa that they where fighting in the past...

I'm guessing the next president election will be postponed due to national security issues... or a simular situation..
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seems like none of you have been in new orleans during a hurricane and its mandatory evacuations LOL

when martial law is issued your rights are GONE, its been that way and the govetrnment has ALWAYS had that power over its citizens.

its nothing new, and as I said, growing up in new orleans during hurricanes seeing cops and military with guns telling you stay in your home and not come out after 6 pm is nazi shit. ever been threatened with arrest if you leave your home? we have.

and its been that way for over 30 years....
Basically what this is doing from what I read is make it so they can declare martial law anytime they want and don't have to answer to anyone.

I was in LA during the riots 20+ years ago, I saw armored vehicles in the Valley.

LOL, people think the patriot act was bad before?
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just like it's been since Roosevelt.

but since obama is president all of a sudden it's jackboots and the new world order.
No it hasn't, certain criteria had to be made before this could happen. Ever since they came out with the patriot act, we have been losing our rights
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yes i read it. and i researched it. this is nothing new. these laws have always been on the books in some form since roosvelt.

you look like an idiot thinking this the beginning of the nwo crack down.
You are correct...basically nothing new other than each President doing an update.
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Basically what this is doing from what I read is make it so they can declare martial law anytime they want and don't have to answer to anyone.

I was in LA during the riots 20+ years ago, I saw armored vehicles in the Valley.

LOL, people think the patriot act was bad before?
yup. they put hummers with soldiers with machine guns on every exit leading out of this city. its like a warzone, never fealt intimidated by military until you are a citizen during disaster. ive been under martial law numerous times...they declare 6pm curfew and you will be arrested if out after that during a hurricane... my family has a long history of not evacuating, even when ordered to. My grandmother and family didnt leave during Katrina, spent 3 weeks with no power, when cops show up at your house with weapons demanding you leave then come alarm me. LOL
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... says the jew. Quite ironic, really.
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yup. they put hummers with soldiers with machine guns on every exit leading out of this city. its like a warzone, never fealt intimidated by military until you are a citizen during disaster. ive been under martial law numerous times...they declare 6pm curfew and you will be arrested if out after that during a hurricane... my family has a long history of not evacuating, even when ordered to. My grandmother and family didnt leave during Katrina, spent 3 weeks with no power, when cops show up at your house with weapons demanding you leave then come alarm me. LOL
I remember my wife at the time saying since she worked at the grocery store, well I have a key to the Store for food. My reply was I have an AR-15, I have a key to everything!!

I lived in an apt at the time, we had an armed guard at the front gate, he got beat up and they took his gun!
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PJ nailed it. All these laws have been revised, but their origins started all the way back in the 50's. All governments in the US from local, State, and Fed practice a type of enforcement that most Americans can't understand. Meaning, they know it's illegal to do, but do them anyway, as you'll have to spend a lot of money defending your/the right in court. Meaning, they'll break the law, get caught, say they're sorry, pay a settlement with our tax dollars, as 5-7 years goes by and the original injustice fades away.

Who's fault is it? Ours, because only 37% of the public votes as the rest couldn't be bothered as they prefer to school like fish.
it's been slowly building, when they enacted the patriot act, it was a major blow to our freedom, this lastest thing is just adding to it.

Funny how they word this as military preparedness, when we have submarines that can make a country disappear.
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you pay taxes? vote? then you are giving consent to the government to use force on your behalf in order to maintain the basic functions of society and order.

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it's been slowly building, when they enacted the patriot act, it was a major blow to our freedom, this lastest thing is just adding to it.

Funny how they word this as military preparedness, when we have submarines that can make a country disappear.
problem is in the real circumstances, cops will shoot you.

need i point you to articles of cops seizing guns during katrina?

LOL they tackled little old ladies like my grandmother for staying in their own home with a single little pistol. While i understand your stance, the problem is in times like this, you are the enemy of the state. You will be killedd if you think that ar15 will stop cops from telling you to disarm and remove you and your weapon from public.

the confiscation of guns during hurricane katrina was a huge issue and guess who won? the cops lol

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

having seen cops like this in person, any american should rwalize in times of disaster or trouble, you the citizen are the enemy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M

watch those vids.

i know people are tough on message forums, but i know a dozen people with Ar15s, and guess whatk, they leave them home when they evacuate LOL

the cops shot people in broad daylight trying to cross a bridge that was deemed not to cross during katrina man... theyll shoot anyone.
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So Obama's going to shoot himself in the foot during an election year? This sounds like a republican wet dream. Keep on keeping on boys. Edumacation will eventually catch up.
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i doubt anyone can watch this type of video and not have a reaction

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

this is my city

"when they have automatic weapons pointed at you , you dont have a choice"

thats how it is and was
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Slowly building, or the public has slowly come aware of the problem? Due to the internet and how fast we can access or verify information, people are truly coming out of the Matrix. It has to come to ahead because the government has managed to make a laws hazy as the masses truly don't know what's legal or not as cops are allowed to lie to you and often do, just so you get arrested and they later dismiss the case. In short, they keep you in a state of fear for control.

Most people follow the rules, but absolute power corrupts absolutely and any law enforcement will use this as a tool for a type of narcissistic control. You can fight back as when someone is getting arrested make sure to use your camera phone because one day it might be you.

I am not nearly as active as I use to be, but I've been known to post judges and cops houses on the Internet and actually had a judge cuss me out in his courtroom only to subpena the court proceeding tape, later posted on the internet. After he thoroughly exhausted all his options and found out he couldn't do thing about it? He then played nice and went on a diatribe about how laws and justice aren't balanced and never apologized. So I left it up for another 2 years.

I've also had cases dismissed due to the cop not showing up as I motioned for to reset at a later date (6x) until the judge ordered the cop in just to get on record the lack of evidence dismissal as I later filed suit in Federal court for Police harassment.

You see the system is broken, but not like you think. The biggest fear for a cop or Judge is not a crazed ignorant lunatic with a gun, but a well informed citizen with a pen. When that does not work anymore it truly time to pull out the gun.
The guy with the gun is just a deversion, thats all they have ever been, it's like these stupid wars we keep getting into.
How did that Police harassment suit go?
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:17 PM   #87
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problem is in the real circumstances, cops will shoot you.

need i point you to articles of cops seizing guns during katrina?

LOL they tackled little old ladies like my grandmother for staying in their own home with a single little pistol. While i understand your stance, the problem is in times like this, you are the enemy of the state. You will be killedd if you think that ar15 will stop cops from telling you to disarm and remove you and your weapon from public.

the confiscation of guns during hurricane katrina was a huge issue and guess who won? the cops lol

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

having seen cops like this in person, any american should rwalize in times of disaster or trouble, you the citizen are the enemy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M

watch those vids.

i know people are tough on message forums, but i know a dozen people with Ar15s, and guess whatk, they leave them home when they evacuate LOL

the cops shot people in broad daylight trying to cross a bridge that was deemed not to cross during katrina man... theyll shoot anyone.


Funny story, My step father was at work when a fire broke out near my parents home. My stepfather raced home just to find the road blocked and the police said he couldn't go to his home. My mother was there.

My stepfather was driving a 2000 1 ton Dodge 4X4 with a cummins, so he well , made his own road and drove to the house with the cops following. As my step father came into the drive way, there was my mother loading 3 rifles into the back of her car, a hunting rifle and a couple assault rifles that have the proper permits for, the cops decided not to come down the drive way and waited till my mother was ready to leave and escorted them past the fire line.

In court, the judge thru out the case because the police had over stepped their authority.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Nowhere. That wasn't my purpose, but now it's on record for any possible future confrontation, as the cops authority is now in question. That's how the system works, I simply took an insurance policy out by proxy. Saw the cop a few times after that and he wouldn't even acknowledge that I was there. It works just like the ACLU told me it would.
Thanx, good advice. I have a little thing I need to address

hey did you read about this?

Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011

So now the Secret Service has the right to restrict free speech?
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for alex jones martial law has been going to happen next week for the last 15 years.

that is how he fleeces the sheep.
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PJ nailed it.
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Honestly, can you really blame them for restricting more and more of your rights when "The People" won't help themselves?
Nobody cares. Have a beer ...



How do you help yourself when there isn't a problem. How would you know about a problem if you didn't as a question ? "Question askers" are dangerous conspiracy lunatics
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you still have time to move outta the new nazi country ... be quick tho ... europe aint "liberated" yet

or ... wait until the devils gate opens up for you ...
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Yes, I did, but then again, it's our fault because most Americans refuse to do anything about it. I remember reading an article on a poll taken years ago, 90% of the public didn't have clue who their State or Fed representatives were. Honestly, can you really blame them for restricting more and more of your rights when "The People" won't help themselves?

It's NOT the governments job to inform you of your rights, but you must inform yourself. I even went through a period and only came aware after traveling and doing business in countries where you have no rights and realized through my own ignorance how truly good we have it here. After I got home I immediately re-registered to vote and also very active on a State level.

So again, how can you blame them when it's us who's pissing it all away?
People are too busy being distracted with social programs to care about peoples rights, pretty sad
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Yes, I did, but then again, it's our fault because most Americans refuse to do anything about it. I remember reading an article on a poll taken years ago, 90% of the public didn't have clue who their State or Fed representatives were. Honestly, can you really blame them for restricting more and more of your rights when "The People" won't help themselves?

It's NOT the governments job to inform you of your rights, but you must inform yourself. I even went through a period and only came aware after traveling and doing business in countries where you have no rights and realized through my own ignorance how truly good we have it here. After I got home I immediately re-registered to vote and also very active on a State level.

So again, how can you blame them when it's us who's pissing it all away?
When I hear someone complain about something government has done...or about some bill that has been proposed...my first question to them is...what have you said to your Representative/Senator about your concerns. The answer to my question to them is almost 100% the same answer...and that is...they don't have a clue who their Representative/Senator is and what good would it do to contact them even if they did know who they were.

Along the same high percentage...is the number of people that have not read a book since leaving school and the number of people that do not read a newspaper/listen to or watch the news.
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I read all 10 pages of the Executive Order last night. Some fucking crazy shit.

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Americans are about to get hurt, REALLY, REALLY BAD -- AND SOON!

...keep on laughing people
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Funny how they word this as military preparedness, when we have submarines that can make a country disappear.
THAT was the VERY first thing I thought when I was reading the EO. - Why now, AND just "who," or "what entity" is going to push the USA into a position of such National Emergency?

The question of "WHO" only leads to ONE logical conclusion..

It is ..none other than the "enemy within" - the criminals within the hijacked US Government. The same people that orchestrated the LARGEST financial heist in the history of the World. The same people who are desperately trying to get the place locked down (in a martial law/police state) so they will never be prosecuted for their crimes against the people of the USA.
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lmao @ the shills trying to defend these executive orders....
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