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Rothstein · 04-07-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Hurricane katrina devastated the entire south end of america

Sure it did.

You're that idiot that attempted to help clean up right?

martinsc · 04-08-2012, 12:23 AM

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Roald · 04-08-2012, 12:39 AM

lmao, I see the media got you too choker

MaDalton · 04-08-2012, 02:14 AM

i will do exactly nothing to prepare me for anything of this nonsense

Fletch XXX · 04-08-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

Fletch,

No 2 catastrophes are the same. Not everyone who prepares for the future, prepares for the same things. Yes of course certain measures will be useless when a large military force evicts everyone in a certain area from their homes or when a massive meteorite strikes the earth or when a Chernobyl like event occurs... but that doesn't mean it's not smart to prepare.

When saving some or your earnings for future use, inflation, deflation and devaluation are things to take into consideration. Precious metals certainly fit into a strategy aimed at preserving the value of the income you've already earned but plan to use in the future. Being prepared doesn't necessarily mean: "being prepared for Mad Max beyond thunderdome " type of scenarios. For me personally, being prepared means managing risks. And the risk of a currency suddenly losing 10% of its value is a very real one.

As i said, youve never spent weeks without power have you?

Ever shit in a bucket for days because the city sewer system is on electric systems?

I have.

you guys can sit and talk on gfy but fact is if anything really happened you guys will not be prepepared if you are collecting coins and tyvek suits. I promise you.

and thats from someone who understands what cities look like with no power grid. and that only stretched a few states imagine entire nation, i bet you guys cant, because youve never even seen the tip of the ice berg.

the nation couldnt even handle hurricane katrina and the power failures it brought, you thin they can handle chernobyl in america with some coins and a sack of tyvek suits? LOL

come sit though a hurricane first...

Fletch XXX · 04-08-2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rothstein

Sure it did.

You're that idiot that attempted to help clean up right?

i spent 6 months of 14 hour days helping clean the oil spill. and also moved back from california to new orleans after katrina to help my family who lost multiple homes and my grandmother died after the storm. more than one person in m family lost everything in katrina, whole house washed away... in multiple states. fam in mississippi lost home and my folks here in new orleans did too.

yes, i speak from experience while people on gfy sit and yap.

theres a big difference between katrina and the oil spill though, perhaps wikipedia can help you since you clearly dont know what you are even referring to.

cherrylula · 04-08-2012, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I dont think people will use silver and gold as barter after a disaster. But that's what people think and are buying.

The only thing worth reading in this thread right there. Nice sales.

Choker · 04-08-2012, 06:10 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month.

Rothstein · 04-08-2012, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month.

Pretty much all of NASA's funding has been cut, of course they have to look like they are working on something big/important else they'd be gone completely.

SomeCreep · 04-08-2012, 06:17 AM

Every man dies. Not every man truely lives.

MaDalton · 04-08-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month.

would it make you think if there was no warning in the rest of the world?

Barry-xlovecam · 04-08-2012, 06:29 AM

People want to believe in the end game disaster -- it justifies their basic belief.
But seriously, surviving in a zombie like existence has very limited appeal.

I still remember the air raid drills in the 1960's at school. We huddled in the school's basement under the asbestos wrapped heating ducts practicing for the Soviet nuclear attack that never came -- in the end, wasted effort for the event that would destroy our world as we knew it -- mental masturbation.

slapass · 04-08-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Most of my sales have been to normal people, not hardcore preppers. Mostly silver coins in case the economy collapses. Most people feel that silver wil lreplace the dollar if shit happens. And lots of freeze dried and dehydrated food. I don't think the average person understands or cares about the solar flare threat to make this worth marketing too. Hardcore preppers yeah, but they are a different market. I'm questioning whether the average GFYer is aware of the solar flare threat.

Gotcha. Sorry I woke up on the wrong side of hte bed when i wrote that. One thing i have noticed is that this crowd is a bit more informed then the norm. I know that seems unlikely but seems to be true.

Choker · 04-08-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

would it make you think if there was no warning in the rest of the world?

Are you trying to say there were no warnings from NASA? Not my problem that you live in a country who's idea of a space program is a weather balloon.

MaDalton · 04-08-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Are you trying to say there were no warnings from NASA? Not my problem that you live in a country who's idea of a space program is a weather balloon.

no, i live in a country that doesnt need to scare people with bullshit to justify a space agency that doesnt even have space ships anymore

raymor · 04-08-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Isnt there enough real shit going down, why worry about the billion things that might happen?

+1

As far as an actual threat, intense solar flares make cell phone reception worse because radio receivers work on millions of a volt. The power grid runs on thousands of volts. The worst solar flair even wouldn't be detectable on the power grid. Lightening is billions of times stronger. Want to prepare for solar flares? Get a land line phone. Done.

Choker · 04-08-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

+1

As far as an actual threat, intense solar flares make cell phone reception worse because radio receivers work on millions of a volt. The power grid runs on thousands of volts. The worst solar flair even wouldn't be detectable on the power grid. Lightening is billions of times stronger. Want to prepare for solar flares? Get a land line phone. Done.

Dude, every federal agency, every expert on power grids says the opposite. So you know something they don't? And not to mention that in the last 50 years strong solar flares HAVE knocked out power grids all over the earth. So I guess all those news stories and people without power because of solar flares was a big conspiracy or something? Um, Ok

DWB · 04-08-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I dont think people will use silver and gold as barter after a disaster. But that's what people think and are buying. After a disaster yes food, water, medical supplies,power, weapons is what people will barter with. Maybe after a year or two when things start to improve they may start using silver and gold as bartering, but initially yeah your right, they will use have to have items.

They will barter with everything they can get their hands on.

However, most people won't have anything at all, as you can see from the people LOLing in this thread. So get your weapons and take from them whatever you want. No need to barter with those types. In the grand scheme of things the weak are meant to die anyway.

Everything was bartered in Argentina. Weapons, jewelry, coins, food, ammo, medicine, sex, you name it. No reason to think the USA would be any different.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Ever shit in a bucket for days because the city sewer system is on electric systems?

I have.

We are getting a compost toilet very soon. No need to shit in a bucket.

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Originally Posted by Rothstein

Pretty much all of NASA's funding has been cut, of course they have to look like they are working on something big/important else they'd be gone completely.

Because the nation is BROKE and in debt to the point of no return. Not because NASA is worthless.

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I still remember the air raid drills in the 1960's at school. We huddled in the school's basement under the asbestos wrapped heating ducts practicing for the Soviet nuclear attack that never came -- in the end, wasted effort for the event that would destroy our world as we knew it -- mental masturbation.

They thought the same thing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'm sure.

The USA was very close to all out war with the Soviets during the Cuban missile crises. However, students hiding under desks and in the basements would not have saved them from such a catastrophic event. And by some freak chance it did, the radiation would have killed you later. So in that aspect, it was indeed a total waste of time. But the act of trying to prepare for something is not.

Fact of the matter is, people never know when a disaster is going to happen or the size of it. Maybe never. Maybe in 2 minutes after I make this post. It may be an earthquake, a power outage that lasts for a few days (or weeks), a currency collapse, a tornado, or something more sinister and destructive. Historically it has happened over and over and over again around the world, so it's not something that should be blown off so easily. Shit happens. Nothing wrong with being a little prepared for it.

However, the one thing everyone can count on, including the most prepared prepper, is it will never play out the way you planned. But even if you're just a little prepared, it will be better than not being prepared at all and having to be totally dependent on others.

Dirty F · 04-08-2012, 08:02 AM

Choker, you are fucking redneck idiot. Typical American white trash.

CaptainHowdy · 04-08-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Every man dies. Not every man truely lives.

xholly · 04-08-2012, 08:07 AM

its getting caught in a gamma ray burst that you really gotta worry about. :D

the threat of major damage to the electricity grid from solar flares is real, unlikely that will result in some sort of apocalyptic situation though.

anexsia · 04-08-2012, 08:07 AM

Cognitive Dissonance and the End of the World
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...harold-camping

"The more someone acts on behalf of a belief (and even suffers for it), the more and more that belief becomes important to them. People think, "I have done so much for this belief. If it weren't important I wouldn't have done that." This is a basic form of dissonance reduction."

Apparently there's a lot of self help information out there for people with end of the world fears and doomsday phobia.

You guys could always start a doomsday/end of the world cult and profit from that?

Choker · 04-08-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Choker, you are fucking redneck idiot. Typical American white trash.

And what is your point troll? LOL

Choker · 04-08-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

its getting caught in a gamma ray burst that you really gotta worry about. :D

the threat of major damage to the electricity grid from solar flares is real, unlikely that will result in some sort of apocalyptic situation though.

Gamma ray would be a game over thing. No need to worry about a situation that you can't do anything about. Didn't the miltitary release a report stating that it only takes a 2 megaton nuke 250 miles above the center of the US to fry the entire US grid? The Russian nuclear threat is far from over.

Dirty F · 04-08-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

And what is your point troll? LOL

That was my point you dumbass redneck.

L-Pink · 04-08-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Gamma ray would be a game over thing. No need to worry about a situation that you can't do anything about. Didn't the miltitary release a report stating that it only takes a 2 megaton nuke 250 miles above the center of the US to fry the entire US grid? The Russian nuclear threat is far from over.

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Originally Posted by The Heron

EMP's are bad news for our society. Whether from a solar flare or nuclear blast the consequences would be amazing. http://www.onesecondafter.com/ read that book and you'll see how unprepared we would be. I figure I'd get a gun and go nuts for a few weeks until everyone was dead.

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I've read that, excellent book. Quote from the books afterword;

"It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when"

General Eugene Harbiger
USAF
Former Commander-in-ChiefUS Strategic Command

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Really was an interesting book.

.

DWB · 04-08-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

no, i live in a country that doesnt need to scare people with bullshit to justify a space agency that doesnt even have space ships anymore

Perhaps your country is better prepared at a federal level to deal with such issues, thus no real need to alert people of any possible danger. It is also possible that where you are located geographically may not be an issue for such flares. Many nations did alert their people during the last big flares. We even had alerts here. My guess (totally uneducated guess) is that it has to do with where you are during the time they will hit.

DWB · 04-08-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

Cognitive Dissonance and the End of the World
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...harold-camping

"The more someone acts on behalf of a belief (and even suffers for it), the more and more that belief becomes important to them. People think, "I have done so much for this belief. If it weren't important I wouldn't have done that." This is a basic form of dissonance reduction."

Apparently there's a lot of self help information out there for people with end of the world fears and doomsday phobia.

You guys could always start a doomsday/end of the world cult and profit from that?

"End of the world" fears I'll give you. But being prepared for situations that can and probably will eventually should be perfectly normal. This is like saying an ambulance crew needs help because they are prepared to help someone in the event of an accident.

I'm starting to think no one here has ever taken a world history class. Because if you have, most of you wouldn't be saying some of the stuff you are saying.

MaDalton · 04-08-2012, 08:38 AM

i just don't believe in any of those scare tactics

not once in my life anything of that really happened and IF i am ever unlucky enough to be proven wrong, i have at least not wasted my time before worrying about eventualities

of course there's nothing wrong when living in Florida to prepare for a hurricane, don't get me wrong

but preparing for solar flares, civil war, zombie attacks or the end of the world in 2012 is just plain nonsense.

xholly · 04-08-2012, 08:48 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

what would happen if the 1859 event happened today
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/

I don't worry at all but shit does happen

AllAboutCams · 04-08-2012, 08:56 AM

just turn your house in to a big faraday's cage

Barry-xlovecam · 04-08-2012, 09:14 AM

Are you so sure you want to survive in a post apocalyptic world?

If you want to crawl out of your hole into world of abject misery, OK -- I don't even consider that as a realistic possibility.

As for a short term; weeks, a month or two I have that covered. Canned food, medications, water and ammo but living that way would be for shit. Once the medication ran out I would be dead in short time anyway so looting becomes a realistic possibility and with that realistic violence.

So, if you think you would have a safe life living from your stored horde of supplies think again -- you would spend most of your time defending your horded pile. So, with multitudes of armed scavengers wandering about -- do you really think you would be able kill them all Cowboy?

But there is plenty of profiteering to be had selling survival in the face of doom. I remember how the world would be destroyed when all the planets lined up -- nothing happened. Hopefully this will also be the case of the current dire predictions ... "They" haven't been right yet.

2MuchMark · 04-08-2012, 09:41 AM

Scared people spend money. It's a known fact. If you are making money selling to scared people Choker then i guess that's for choice. Trying to make people afraid however isn't cool.

People are afraid of the WRONG THINGS. Every day we are presented with scary news items on TV and scary headlines simple because they attract viewers and sell.

The sunspot cycle repeats roughly every 11 years. That means every 11 years the earth is more likely to be hit high energy Solar Mass Ejections. CME's do not hurt people and do not destroy power grids. They can disrupt them and damage sensitive components which can cause power failures, but thats about it. We know ahead of time when CME's are coming thanks to Nasa and http://www.spaceweather.com/. Whenever they put out a PR that says "CME on the way, again", headline writes go nuts.

Idiots buy guns, bullets and endless survival gear and worthless coins because they are afraid that the end of the world is right around the corner. Instead of thinking even just a little, they instead choose the belief EVERYTHING that is told to them and fear the wrong things. They are convinced that the end of the world is coming the day after tomorrow.

The reality is that people are much more likely to get hurt or killed just driving to the supermarket, or walking down the stairs. The same idiots who are preparing for the end of the world so they can live through the apocalypse think nothing about smoking cigarettes and eating fat-filled potato chips. It's insane.

Barry-xlovecam · 04-08-2012, 10:01 AM

This "end of the world" stuff is not exactly new -- movies have been made mocking it ...

DWB · 04-08-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

what would happen if the 1859 event happened today
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/

I don't worry at all but shit does happen

Shit does happen. That you can count on.

Nembrionic · 04-08-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Well done on making money from it 2012!
Personally I don't trust NASA. .

You don't trust anyone, except yourself. Although I'm not even sure about that. And I think you shouldn't.

Radical Bucks · 04-08-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Well done on making money from it 2012!

Before Swine Flu we were regularly told "It's about time we have a pandemic, it could happen any time soon", which is obviously complete BS; a Pandemic isn't an earthquake. Soon after a very strange Pandemic appeared, but it was only a 'Pandemic' because the World Health Organization changed the definition of Pandemic just before Swine Flu was released. The next thing we know a significant percentage of people are being injected with fertility-reducing Polysorbate 80 mixed with Swine Flu Vaccine.

Personally I don't trust NASA. If something nasty happens, the first place to investigate would be HAARP. It's known the Bankers want the population down dramatically (from their own words), so there's the motive.

I'm not saying that I expect it to happen, but if something does happen and NASA had warned in advance, I would be suspicious that in reality HAARP had been used to temporarily lift the atmosphere.

I agree 100% HAARP is far more destructive than Nuclear weapons now.

Trend · 04-08-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I dont think people will use silver and gold as barter after a disaster. But that's what people think and are buying. After a disaster yes food, water, medical supplies,power, weapons is what people will barter with. Maybe after a year or two when things start to improve they may start using silver and gold as bartering, but initially yeah your right, they will use have to have items.

Choker.. may I ask how you are selling the silver? ( through third party service, direct through your own site etc? ) We bought a sizable number of 1oz silver bars from 1992 - 2005 & might be interested in selling some of it, if there is a profit to be made above and beyond just selling it at it's current value to local precious metal merchants.

and my humble opinion to your original question... yes... monetize it.. the market is right.

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The entire banking system would be destroyed by any deployment of HAARP or similar figment of your imagination.

You can kill the people and keep the infrastructure with just a little thought.

They would only go for specific target areas where there are either people annoyingly living on top of desired resources e.g Africa or places where it's going to be difficult to overthrow the current control mechanisms.

You are right that there are some things the Bankers would never want to risk losing

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

True, but pandamics are fact not fiction. Historically we are long overdue for a big one. I have been selling swine flu suits. They sell really good and are very cheap. They have many other purposes also. Just yesterday I had both my daughters wearing one as they were cleaning out a garage. We have a black widow problem and the suits provide good protection just in case. And they are pretty comfortable.

Before an earthquake, forces build up underground, that is why an earthquake becomes due or overdue. Pandemics have no such forces building up, so we cannot say one is due. In the years just before the Swine Flu Pandemic there was a lot of planning going on around the world in preparation, there was too much foreknowledge, even the likes of IBM sent out there pandemic plan just a couple of years before. Pandemics are now a fig leaf for another agenda.

TheSquealer · 04-08-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Most of my sales have been to normal people....

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

I agree 100% HAARP is far more destructive than Nuclear weapons now.

And especially because it's covert, i.e. "The force of mother nature"

Si · 04-08-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Scared people spend money. It's a known fact. If you are making money selling to scared people Choker then i guess that's for choice. Trying to make people afraid however isn't cool.

People are afraid of the WRONG THINGS. Every day we are presented with scary news items on TV and scary headlines simple because they attract viewers and sell.

The sunspot cycle repeats roughly every 11 years. That means every 11 years the earth is more likely to be hit high energy Solar Mass Ejections. CME's do not hurt people and do not destroy power grids. They can disrupt them and damage sensitive components which can cause power failures, but thats about it. We know ahead of time when CME's are coming thanks to Nasa and http://www.spaceweather.com/. Whenever they put out a PR that says "CME on the way, again", headline writes go nuts.

Idiots buy guns, bullets and endless survival gear and worthless coins because they are afraid that the end of the world is right around the corner. Instead of thinking even just a little, they instead choose the belief EVERYTHING that is told to them and fear the wrong things. They are convinced that the end of the world is coming the day after tomorrow.

The reality is that people are much more likely to get hurt or killed just driving to the supermarket, or walking down the stairs. The same idiots who are preparing for the end of the world so they can live through the apocalypse think nothing about smoking cigarettes and eating fat-filled potato chips. It's insane.

We don't always agree on a lot of things, but you are totally spot on here

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Si

We don't always agree on a lot of things, but you are totally spot on here

Mark makes a good point about the risk of driving. I know adults who'll happily scream away (at high pitch) about petty issues to the driver of their car on a motorway, but are completely terrified of flying on a large passenger jet (only since they watched Lost and Final Destination).

Also there was someone I knew who was really bad at crossing roads, I'd witnessed several near-misses. Sometimes I'd remind them "Be careful crossing the roads dude!"...this advice was never accepted, nor by those around me "Why are you telling him that?"

Nembrionic · 04-08-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

And especially because it's covert, i.e. "The force of mother nature"

Tell me, when and where exactly were there masses of casualties, comparable to a nuclear strike which actually had some purpose?

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Tell me, when and where exactly were there masses of casualties, comparable to a nuclear strike which actually had some purpose?

We're talking about capabilities. It has been used here and there, with lives lost, but over the next 20 years you'll see far worse. It's all going to be tied in with the Climate Change (i.e. global taxes) and Agenda 21 (we control where you can live) Banker scams. "The weather is out of control because of global warming, so you must pay us carbon taxes. The weather is so bad in certain locations that you can no longer live there, you have to live over here where it's safe!

Nembrionic · 04-08-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

We're talking about capabilities. It has been used here and there, with lives lost, but over the next 20 years you'll see far worse. It's all going to be tied in with the Climate Change (i.e. global taxes) and Agenda 21 (we control where you can live) Banker scams. "The weather is out of control because of global warming, so you must pay us carbon taxes. The weather is so bad in certain locations that you can no longer live there, you have to live over here where it's safe!

wehateporn · 04-08-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Look into Agenda 21 some time, plenty to read (to put most off), there's a bottomless pit of money funding it "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced"

Full quote

"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
- excerpt, UN Agenda 21

xholly · 04-08-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

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"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
- excerpt, UN Agenda 21

Sounds good to me! well overdue.

porno jew · 04-08-2012, 07:02 PM

more john birch society nonsense.

http://www.treehugger.com/environmen...oogey-man.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

The society opposed aspects of the 1960s civil rights movement because it claimed the movement had communists in important positions. In the latter half of 1965, the JBS produced a flyer titled ?What?s Wrong With Civil Rights?,? which was used as a newspaper advertisement

One of the founding members[22][23][24] was Fred Koch,[25] founder of Koch Industries, one of the largest private corporations in America.[26] Another was Revilo P. Oliver, a University of Illinois professor who later severed his relationship with the society and helped found the Neo-Nazi organization The National Alliance.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Look into Agenda 21 some time, plenty to read (to put most off), there's a bottomless pit of money funding it "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced"

Full quote

"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
- excerpt, UN Agenda 21

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04-08-2012, 06:10 AM	#58
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

04-08-2012, 06:17 AM	#60
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04-08-2012, 06:29 AM	#62
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	People want to believe in the end game disaster -- it justifies their basic belief. But seriously, surviving in a zombie like existence has very limited appeal. I still remember the air raid drills in the 1960's at school. We huddled in the school's basement under the asbestos wrapped heating ducts practicing for the Soviet nuclear attack that never came -- in the end, wasted effort for the event that would destroy our world as we knew it -- mental masturbation.

04-08-2012, 08:02 AM	#69
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Choker, you are fucking redneck idiot. Typical American white trash.

04-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#71
xholly Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 817	its getting caught in a gamma ray burst that you really gotta worry about. :D the threat of major damage to the electricity grid from solar flares is real, unlikely that will result in some sort of apocalyptic situation though.

04-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#72
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	Cognitive Dissonance and the End of the World http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...harold-camping "The more someone acts on behalf of a belief (and even suffers for it), the more and more that belief becomes important to them. People think, "I have done so much for this belief. If it weren't important I wouldn't have done that." This is a basic form of dissonance reduction." Apparently there's a lot of self help information out there for people with end of the world fears and doomsday phobia. You guys could always start a doomsday/end of the world cult and profit from that? Last edited by anexsia; 04-08-2012 at 08:09 AM..

04-08-2012, 08:38 AM	#79
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,826	i just don't believe in any of those scare tactics not once in my life anything of that really happened and IF i am ever unlucky enough to be proven wrong, i have at least not wasted my time before worrying about eventualities of course there's nothing wrong when living in Florida to prepare for a hurricane, don't get me wrong but preparing for solar flares, civil war, zombie attacks or the end of the world in 2012 is just plain nonsense. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

04-08-2012, 08:48 AM	#80
xholly Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 817	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859 what would happen if the 1859 event happened today http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/ I don't worry at all but shit does happen

04-08-2012, 08:56 AM	#81
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04-08-2012, 09:14 AM	#82
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Are you so sure you want to survive in a post apocalyptic world? If you want to crawl out of your hole into world of abject misery, OK -- I don't even consider that as a realistic possibility. As for a short term; weeks, a month or two I have that covered. Canned food, medications, water and ammo but living that way would be for shit. Once the medication ran out I would be dead in short time anyway so looting becomes a realistic possibility and with that realistic violence. So, if you think you would have a safe life living from your stored horde of supplies think again -- you would spend most of your time defending your horded pile. So, with multitudes of armed scavengers wandering about -- do you really think you would be able kill them all Cowboy? But there is plenty of profiteering to be had selling survival in the face of doom. I remember how the world would be destroyed when all the planets lined up -- nothing happened. Hopefully this will also be the case of the current dire predictions ... "They" haven't been right yet.

04-08-2012, 09:41 AM	#83
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,568	Scared people spend money. It's a known fact. If you are making money selling to scared people Choker then i guess that's for choice. Trying to make people afraid however isn't cool. People are afraid of the WRONG THINGS. Every day we are presented with scary news items on TV and scary headlines simple because they attract viewers and sell. The sunspot cycle repeats roughly every 11 years. That means every 11 years the earth is more likely to be hit high energy Solar Mass Ejections. CME's do not hurt people and do not destroy power grids. They can disrupt them and damage sensitive components which can cause power failures, but thats about it. We know ahead of time when CME's are coming thanks to Nasa and http://www.spaceweather.com/. Whenever they put out a PR that says "CME on the way, again", headline writes go nuts. Idiots buy guns, bullets and endless survival gear and worthless coins because they are afraid that the end of the world is right around the corner. Instead of thinking even just a little, they instead choose the belief EVERYTHING that is told to them and fear the wrong things. They are convinced that the end of the world is coming the day after tomorrow. The reality is that people are much more likely to get hurt or killed just driving to the supermarket, or walking down the stairs. The same idiots who are preparing for the end of the world so they can live through the apocalypse think nothing about smoking cigarettes and eating fat-filled potato chips. It's insane. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

04-08-2012, 10:01 AM	#84
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	This "end of the world" stuff is not exactly new -- movies have been made mocking it ...