Choker

I've made some good money off the scare selling survival supplies, but now I'm beginning to take this solar flare threat seriously. Hell even NASA is putting out warnings about the possibility of solar flares causing major problems the next 2 years. The more I research it the more I am starting to think that this is a real threat. What's your thoughts on this?

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slapass

You sell survival supplies for 2012 and you want to know if you can monetize the solar flare threat? I think you know the answer. Dumb people are dumb. Sell them shit.

wehateporn

Well done on making money from it 2012!

Before Swine Flu we were regularly told "It's about time we have a pandemic, it could happen any time soon", which is obviously complete BS; a Pandemic isn't an earthquake. Soon after a very strange Pandemic appeared, but it was only a 'Pandemic' because the World Health Organization changed the definition of Pandemic just before Swine Flu was released. The next thing we know a significant percentage of people are being injected with fertility-reducing Polysorbate 80 mixed with Swine Flu Vaccine.

Personally I don't trust NASA. If something nasty happens, the first place to investigate would be HAARP. It's known the Bankers want the population down dramatically (from their own words), so there's the motive.

I'm not saying that I expect it to happen, but if something does happen and NASA had warned in advance, I would be suspicious that in reality HAARP had been used to temporarily lift the atmosphere.

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MetaMan

Excuse my ignorance on the subject, but what would the solar flares effect? How would you monetize it if you don't mind saying?

Shotsie

Listen to this guy; he knows what he's talking about.

Makaveli

Nothing wrong with being prepared.. Solar flares could knock out the aging power grids in North America for months even years. No water from the taps, no fridges to keep our food good.

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The entire banking system would be destroyed by any deployment of HAARP or similar figment of your imagination.

You can kill the people and keep the infrastructure with just a little thought.

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i just buy thousand solar glasses and will them on myself

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But of course... makes tons of sense

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Choker

Most of my sales have been to normal people, not hardcore preppers. Mostly silver coins in case the economy collapses. Most people feel that silver wil lreplace the dollar if shit happens. And lots of freeze dried and dehydrated food. I don't think the average person understands or cares about the solar flare threat to make this worth marketing too. Hardcore preppers yeah, but they are a different market. I'm questioning whether the average GFYer is aware of the solar flare threat.

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lol yeah it is weekend here

Choker

True, but pandamics are fact not fiction. Historically we are long overdue for a big one. I have been selling swine flu suits. They sell really good and are very cheap. They have many other purposes also. Just yesterday I had both my daughters wearing one as they were cleaning out a garage. We have a black widow problem and the suits provide good protection just in case. And they are pretty comfortable.

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They could knock out the power grid for months or even years. I am thinking of putting together power kits with a flexable solar panel, charger, cables, ac converter, and having it all EMP protected in a large mylar bag then inside a faraday cage, maybe a ammo box if I can find ones big enough. Could market it as a ready to go power supply if shit happens.

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i always start to giggle when people start to put money gold and silver in case the economy collapses. Try to eat your silver or gold in a recession. You are better of investing in food.

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Isnt there enough real shit going down, why worry about the billion things that might happen?

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Fletch XXX

have any of you been part of forced evacuations and mandatory deportation of an entire city?

i have.

you guys are funny talking about all this survival box shit, it will totally not save your ass from anything and in the event something REAL happens youll be under martial law, wont be allowed to carry all those guns people collect etc,... i know people watch Red Dawn in the 80s and survival shows are fun, but in reality you wont be allowed to just roam free and be some dweller livin out of backpack ful of survival goods. heheh

the more i read gfy the more i think most people on it are completely out of touch with reality in every sense.

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Historical "averages" mean very little when it comes to predicting things like pandemics. Over the last 100 years we've seen huge improvements in the standard of living. It's only since the 1920s that we've been able to systematically produce more food than we need. As a result, people who want to eat the best quality of food, can do so. Before the 1920s, the supply of food was much lower, meaning people had no choice but to also consume the lower quality products. Better nutrition has resulted in people growing taller, living longer etc. Add other factors like improved sanitary facilities, better waste management etc and you get a situation wherein most of the old plaguelike diseases don't stand a chance to reach pandemic proportions.

I admit that the same improvements in technology have introduced new risks: faster travel = spreading viruses all over the world. but I wouldn't evaluate those risks based on how older outbreaks happened or on how frequent they occurred.


You're selling them yourself or you're promoting a bio suit affilaite program?

u-Bob

You don't buy precious metals to eat them, you use them as a "store of value".

Fletch XXX

as i will continue to say, spoken by someone who has never seen an evacuated city or a destroyed one after a disaster.

really, your gold and silver will be worthless in the event something really bad happens. Hurricane katrina devastated the entire south end of america, complete towns without power for weeks we are still feeling the effects...

you guys think some gold coins and a backpack of tyvek suits will save you in events like that?

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bronco67

Permanent loss of electricity across the entire planet is a big deal. It'll turn into Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome in a a week.

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You have to research solar fairs if there a threat? Seriously ?

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It's a white trash thing.

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Fletch,

No 2 catastrophes are the same. Not everyone who prepares for the future, prepares for the same things. Yes of course certain measures will be useless when a large military force evicts everyone in a certain area from their homes or when a massive meteorite strikes the earth or when a Chernobyl like event occurs... but that doesn't mean it's not smart to prepare.

When saving some or your earnings for future use, inflation, deflation and devaluation are things to take into consideration. Precious metals certainly fit into a strategy aimed at preserving the value of the income you've already earned but plan to use in the future. Being prepared doesn't necessarily mean: "being prepared for Mad Max beyond thunderdome " type of scenarios. For me personally, being prepared means managing risks. And the risk of a currency suddenly losing 10% of its value is a very real one.

Bryan G

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grumpy

in wwII your gold and silver could not feed you here in Holland. The ones that made it through were the ones with food .

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GFED

It's always better to be prepared. No doubt that the possibility is there and not as farfetched as some may believe.

MetaMan

100% like the idea. Out of the box thinking. Major props

I have been looking around in these fields lately also. I'm not in development mode as I can't thin out my other projects but it is in the works for this upcoming year.

qwe

how do you know people will use silver in case shit happens? people will be killing each other for a can of tuna, wtf do they need silver coins for? let's say you got a ton of food in the house and somebody comes and gives you a silver/gold coint for some type of food, are you seriously going to give away something that you will need to survive for some metal? your goal #1 would be to hide all the food and keep quet otherwise you will see a ton of people coming killing you and taking your shit... best investment would be guns and a ton of ammo, that would be worth more then kilograms of gold

cooldude7

yeah its end of world,

bronco67

I agree. If I do anything to prepare -- which is increasingly looks like I may take some measures -- I'll be getting a Ruger 10/22 and 50 bricks of ammo. Maybe a shotgun also.

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Obama will hit the internet kill button and blame solar flares. Watch out!

Socks

Gold silver and other valuables may not help in some disaster scenarios, but would help in others. You may need some form of currency to trade with. Food or water may well be "more valuable" than silver, but it doesn't mean it would hold no value or come in handy.

Same with guns, there's some situations they would be useful, others close to useless.

I guess the point is that you don't know exactly what to prepare for, so it's probably a good idea to prepare for a range of possibilities.

Grapesoda

buy some the prepper shit back?

L-Pink

What chocker knows is to stock what the general public wants to buy. I wouldn't confuse that with what his personal beliefs are.

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The Heron

EMP's are bad news for our society. Whether from a solar flare or nuclear blast the consequences would be amazing. http://www.onesecondafter.com/ read that book and you'll see how unprepared we would be. I figure I'd get a gun and go nuts for a few weeks until everyone was dead.

MetaMan

shut up! wow, do you have any idea about marketing?

mega changes happen irregularly, you are selling the THOUGHT of it happening. The event happening has 0 to do with the way you would market it today.

beerptrol

I just saw The Darkest Hour and plan to turn my whole house into a nested faraday cage

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alextokyo

You rednecks crack me the fuck up, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

That National Geographic series on Doomsdayers is always entertaining. It shows how people are getting armed with assault rifles, setting up solar farms and self-sustainable eco-systems in middle-of-nowhere-compounds from which they can pick veg and fish, stashing decades upon decades worth of canned food, etc. In reality... a massive pack of wild negros appear armed to the teeth, kill you and rape & kill your kids, then steal your shit.

If shit does go down for real, then there will be less Soulja Boy & Paul Markhams around and a fuck load more Joe Louis & Joseph Kittingers. It will be fantastic for the human race. Good luck to all the winners.

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Honestly fletch, did you actually read the first post? Because it sounds like you made up a post then replied to that.

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Colmike9

Instead of monetizing on the solar flares as a scare, just try to sell solar panels with selling text like "If you think they work well now, just wait a year and these panels will earn you twice as much money by selling your excess energy thanks to the solar flares! GREAT INVESTMENT BEFORE SCIENTISTS CATCH ON AND THE PRICES SKYROCKET!"....

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There are three types of people in the world when it comes to events.

1) The person who is prepared and can deal with most situations accordingly. Maybe that simply means getting the hell out of town.

2) The person who takes warning and leaves when the local authorties tell them to or takes shelter.

3) The person who has to be saved from their rooftop because they refused to listen to anyone, did not prepare, and didn't think it would ever happen to them. These people have what is called the normalcy bias.

If I have a choice, I'm going to be person number one. If warning is given, I'm not going to be the guy you'll have to rescue from a tree top where I ate tree bark for several days to stay alive.


I know you went through the Katrina situation and saw some shit, and I don't even live in the USA so I'm not taking a side here, because both sides are right. It just depends on the situation.

What you experienced was just devastation of a city and martial law. However, the city has slowly been coming back because there is still a state and federal system in place. There is still an economy. What many prepper prepare for is a total collapse. Not one where the federal government is going to fix it later.

During Katrina, there were still funds to pay the police and groups who were upholding martial law. During a financial collapse, there may not be money for this. Taking Argentina as an example, most of the police force no longer showed up for work after their collapse. No money means no one gets paid. Who's going to risk their life for free? Maybe the National Guard, but there are not enough of them to cover a national break down. The military would have to come in and even then there would not be enough of them to contain an entire nation, in every city.

What if the lights don't come back on? Your lights did and you know they would.

What if there is no more US Dollar to buy things with. You knew that you could still buy goods with your dollars even though your city was in ruins.

This is what smart preppers prepare for. A worst case scenario. A real situation where it's not going to be quickly fixed. Historically, during a currency collapse it takes 3 - 9 months to get something new in place. What are you going to do during that time if the dollars in your pocket (and in the bank) are totally worthless? Something will be used as currency until a new one is created. Be it bartering or something of real value, such as metals.

Then there are preppers who prepare for small things like an earth quake. I can tell you that I would rather have a "big out bag" full of a few days of supplies than no supplies at all in the event a devastating earthquake hit and I survived. A few days worth of supplies can be a matter of life or death in some situations.

You can be those people stuck on their roof after Katrina would have killed for a weeks worth of food, water, and perhaps some medical supplies.

And in terms of martial law, lets say it does happen. Well then be prepared for that too. The less you have to leave your house the better.

If shit goes down for real, and history says it probably will eventually, guys like you who laugh at those who prepare for the worst, are going to be the guys who are robbed, beaten, and probably killed for whatever it is you may have. That much you can count on. I hope that never happens, but those who can not protect themselves are going to be the first targets for those who can protect themselves and want what you have, be it your shoes or your woman.

MetaMan

Wow Fletch you are so deep dude. I am glad you took another opportunity to plug yourself as the "good understanding guy" before actually reading anything.

The GFY community once again commends you for being the master of reality.

DWB

And unfortunately there will never be a shortage of people who will have to be rescued from a rooftop after they were warned that a flood was coming. You are a text book case for one of these types.

But it's OK, there are a lot of people just like you. You can always see them after every disaster waving desperately for help as the helicopters hover over them. They usually haven't eaten for a few days and have no idea what the hell just happened.

Choker

I dont think people will use silver and gold as barter after a disaster. But that's what people think and are buying. After a disaster yes food, water, medical supplies,power, weapons is what people will barter with. Maybe after a year or two when things start to improve they may start using silver and gold as bartering, but initially yeah your right, they will use have to have items.

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