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sigurman · 04-02-2012, 08:35 AM

I am moving to Beijing in a couple of months and I will be representing a couple of mainstream enterprises in there. I am learning "chinese" also.
Do you guys think I should represent western adult companies in there? porn is not legal in China, but making contacts with other companies/webmasters is legal.

let me know what you think.

thanks!

cthulhu_waves · 04-02-2012, 08:38 AM

I would suggest not right away though I'm interested where you'd turn up with this. Do take care though. They have stringent laws that might land you in jail or worse.

MrGusMuller · 04-02-2012, 08:42 AM

take care sigurman...
AND FORGET PORN... u might get death penalty.

ajrocks · 04-02-2012, 08:50 AM

if you think doing 20 years in a Chinese prison is worth it then I'm sure you could.

Tom_PM · 04-02-2012, 08:53 AM

Seems like all signs point to no.

AllAboutCams · 04-02-2012, 08:57 AM

forget porn and dont have anything porn related on you when you go there Hong Kong is semi ok but mainland no way in hell

Dirty F · 04-02-2012, 08:58 AM

Great country to move to.

Not.

Dirty F · 04-02-2012, 09:01 AM

You must be looking forward to living in a communist shithole where freedom is non existing word.

sigurman · 04-02-2012, 09:07 AM

I have a great life, i am moving there for sentimental reasons, and i DONT want to go to prison for sure

I was just thinking i representing some adult companies in there for BUROCRATIC work, investments, contacts and stuff like that. It can be mainstream contacts, that would be the ideal.
Let say, if playboy wants to get in touch with some other big company in there I could make the first approach. Everything WITHIN the China law, ZERO tolerance.

Do you still think it can be a stupid move?

sigurman · 04-02-2012, 09:15 AM

Oh, about the freedom etc... I've been there last september, and I can say I saw plenty of freedom in there

I guess the only problem in there is the politics, all the rest is pretty much the same i saw around the world.... I never saw so many porsches, Maseratis, bentleys, ferraris, etc. in one city like in beijing - And I have traveled in all major cities in the world.
Capitalism arrived to China, just in case nobody noticed. Seeing to believe it

DWB · 04-02-2012, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Do you guys think I should represent western adult companies in there? porn is not legal in China, but making contacts with other companies/webmasters is legal.

let me know what you think.

The last group of porn WEBMASTERS who were caught in China were given 7 years in prison. They did not shoot content, they were only webmasters.

But if you don't mind that, mingle with them and let us know how it all turns out.

mafia_man · 04-02-2012, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

You must be looking forward to living in a communist shithole where freedom is non existing word.

Lol "communist".

mayabong · 04-02-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

The last group of porn WEBMASTERS who were caught in China were given 7 years in prison. They did not shoot content, they were only webmasters.

But if you don't mind that, mingle with them and let us know how it all turns out.

WTF really?

Sid70 · 04-02-2012, 10:14 AM

way to go and farewell.

Emil · 04-02-2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Do you guys think I should represent western adult companies in there? porn is not legal in China, but making contacts with other companies/webmasters is legal.

Yes, what could possibly go wrong? Go ahead.

Lykos · 04-02-2012, 01:15 PM

Good luck in that huge country

sigurman · 04-02-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

The last group of porn WEBMASTERS who were caught in China were given 7 years in prison. They did not shoot content, they were only webmasters.

But if you don't mind that, mingle with them and let us know how it all turns out.

Do you still got that article??
Well, if that is true, I will be only avaiable for mainstream companies.

brassmonkey · 04-02-2012, 01:27 PM

don't try to stand on your right there. because you won't have any.

TheSquealer · 04-02-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Do you still got that article??
Well, if that is true, I will be only avaiable for mainstream companies.

They've had some very large roundups of adult webmasters in the last few years. Countless people, internet cafe operators and so on.

The question itself is absurd considering what penalties are in China.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-02-2012, 01:36 PM

man if you are not going to rake in tons of $$$$ don't mess around with the ex commie places...trust me on this I really know what I am talking about...

BladeZ · 04-02-2012, 01:54 PM

Don't take the risk,many articles on google about how much the Chinese government loves porn and porn webmasters.

Barry-xlovecam · 04-02-2012, 02:08 PM

Actually, the PRC (China) is the largest manufacturing community of adult novelty products. That is legal there -- making dildos and exporting them. Stay away from what is defined as ponography and you wont have problems .

(consult a Chinese Lawyer on specifics and don't depend on GFY advice)

Shedevils · 04-02-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Oh, about the freedom etc... I've been there last september, and I can say I saw plenty of freedom in there

I guess the only problem in there is the politics, all the rest is pretty much the same i saw around the world.... I never saw so many porsches, Maseratis, bentleys, ferraris, etc. in one city like in beijing - And I have traveled in all major cities in the world.
Capitalism arrived to China, just in case nobody noticed. Seeing to believe it

It's not capitalism, it's corruption. Yes there are a ton of fine cars parked outside the clubs there but it is certainly not an indicator of development. When you see a Porsche with military plates how do you think the owner can afford that on their $700 a month officers salary.

Never ever talk about porn or any other illegal activity in a place like China. The locals love to shake down foreigners there.

VenusBlogger · 04-02-2012, 02:11 PM

Mainstream Internet Business and webmastering is HUGE in CHINA... I think they are many years ahead of American webmasters in terms or mainstream marketing.

porno jew · 04-02-2012, 02:48 PM

can't see a problem with it. don't listen to the haters man.

L-Pink · 04-02-2012, 02:54 PM

Go for it, chinese have small cocks so prison won't be that bad.

This advise is null and void if you change your mind and move to South Africa.

.

Phoenix · 04-02-2012, 02:57 PM

just stick to mainstream.
i love china man...you will have a great time...i was just in shanghai...what a mind blowing experience.

Deputy Chief Command · 04-02-2012, 03:03 PM

China is great! you are going to have a blast.. don't know if I would like to live in Beijing though .. gets a bit too cold for my liking in the winter ..

sigurman · 04-02-2012, 04:31 PM

One quesion that I couldn't find the answer in google.
If i check the backoffice of my adult sites in China inside my house, will the government know it?
I know they check the traffic and BLOCK the sites for the whole China, but if I access the back office that would be like a "normal user" and I imagine there are millions of people accessing "not blocked" porn sites (there are many, only 30% of adult sites are blocked there, i believe, I accessed GFY from China also) so that would be a "not risky" action? I really don't know.... and If i am not sure, I will not even view a single naked girl pic in there

About living in Beijing, I know it's not the best, but it's where i must go now. I loved Shanghai (great city with super night life) and I am going to prospect Honk Kong and.. MACAU - Which is great because the official papers in there are also in portuguese, and I speak portuguese.

I guess after learning chinese I can dedicate to marketing and SEO in China (in one year). I will work there in the import/export area, but I want to keep in touch with the "online biz", so if you guys have any interest in China, let me know, maybe we can do biz

It's a great place to make money!!

sigurman · 04-02-2012, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Actually, the PRC (China) is the largest manufacturing community of adult novelty products. That is legal there -- making dildos and exporting them. Stay away from what is defined as ponography and you wont have problems .

(consult a Chinese Lawyer on specifics and don't depend on GFY advice)

(consult a Chinese Lawyer on specifics and don't depend on GFY advice)

FOR SURE I will consult a chinese lawyer about this.

Deputy Chief Command · 04-02-2012, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

One quesion that I couldn't find the answer in google.
If i check the backoffice of my adult sites in China inside my house, will the government know it?
I know they check the traffic and BLOCK the sites for the whole China, but if I access the back office that would be like a "normal user" and I imagine there are millions of people accessing "not blocked" porn sites (there are many, only 30% of adult sites are blocked there, i believe, I accessed GFY from China also) so that would be a "not risky" action? I really don't know.... and If i am not sure, I will not even view a single naked girl pic in there

About living in Beijing, I know it's not the best, but it's where i must go now. I loved Shanghai (great city with super night life) and I am going to prospect Honk Kong and.. MACAU - Which is great because the official papers in there are also in portuguese, and I speak portuguese.

I guess after learning chinese I can dedicate to marketing and SEO in China (in one year). I will work there in the import/export area, but I want to keep in touch with the "online biz", so if you guys have any interest in China, let me know, maybe we can do biz

It's a great place to make money!!

its pretty ok to just access your backoffice especially with a VPN.. all expats in China use VPN services to circumvent all the blocked sites... like you probably know FB , Twitter, Youtube, and a bunch of other normal mainstream sites are blocked in China so you need a VPN for that

but even without a VPN it should be fine to access non blocked porn sites... they are not going to arrest you for looking at porn .. the only thing they will arrest you for is running adult sites on chinese servers or marketing sites towards a chinese speaking audience

so whatever you do, don't start translating your sites into chinese to try and get some $$$ out of chinese surfers this could potentially get you into a lot of problems if you are living in china

FreeHugeMovies · 04-02-2012, 05:53 PM

Idiot?...

$5 submissions · 04-02-2012, 05:57 PM

What mainstream biz you got?

papill0n · 04-02-2012, 05:59 PM

you must really like being around people

Redrob · 04-02-2012, 08:34 PM

Been to China several times. I'd take a serious look at Shanghai over Beijing or Hong Kong.

porno jew · 04-02-2012, 08:40 PM

Linfen is beautiful this time of year.

Mr Pheer · 04-02-2012, 08:46 PM

Three words:

General Tso's Chicken

_Richard_ · 04-02-2012, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

(consult a Chinese Lawyer on specifics and don't depend on GFY advice)

FOR SURE I will consult a chinese lawyer about this.

make sure ur talking to someone who doesn't have ability of 'double dipping' on any sort of advice this 'chinese lawyer' may or may not give you

i gotta feeling living in big brother land is going to be a tough adjustment

wdsguy · 04-02-2012, 10:39 PM

Make sure you get a I Love BJ shirt.

nico-t · 04-03-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

Make sure you get a I Love BJ shirt.

bought that as a souvenir for a friend

as for adult webmastering, i brought a laptop to just maintain my sites when i was there. Used a free VPN service which worked perfectly, cant remember which it was though... almost every hotel has internet. Didnt have any probs at all. Then again i didn't go round and tell everybody i was working on adult sites.

shanghai is fake, made for tourists, beijing is much more real.

Konda · 04-03-2012, 03:20 AM

I love Beijing.

Never talk to others about the porn industry, even if you think they're friends. Always use VPN when accessing porn (if you still have porn sites and need to check your stats etc).

There possibilities in mainstream are endless in Beijing. Do not take any risk with porn, it's not worth the risk.

DWB · 04-03-2012, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Do you still got that article??
Well, if that is true, I will be only avaiable for mainstream companies.

Google for it, it's out there. I'm really bad with dates and times but I'm going to guess it was two years ago.

It was a handful of Chinese webmasters running porn sites where people could pay for access via their phones.

AdultKing · 04-03-2012, 03:47 AM

11 Porn webmasters jailed.

http://www.danwei.org/breaking_news/...ers_jailed.php

Don't be a porn webmaster from China. It's not worth the risk. It's highly illegal there. Don't even have porn webmaster stuff on your computer, just dont.

livexxx · 04-03-2012, 03:52 AM

There is an adult business, lots of it phone based but you won't meet them there and they've all got deep pockets and lots of friends already.

DWB · 04-03-2012, 03:54 AM

Wikipedia says 3 years, but I know the guys got 7 (or more) for sure. May have hit them with mixed charges. Wiki also says you can be executed if you're a large underground distributor, whoever defines what that is.

Lots of places you can break the rules in, China is not one of those places unless you really want to tempt fate.

Quote:

People's Republic of China

Internet pornography was outlawed in the People's Republic of China effective 2002, when state censors issued guidelines requiring that all websites remove any pornographic material.[33] Enforcement is strict and the laws are inflexible, with the government stance being hard-line opposition to pornography. The government started a crackdown in 2004, which included the jailing of a woman.[34]

Possession of pornography is punishable by up to 3 years in prison, a fine of 20,000 yuan, or even execution for large underground distributors. In 2010 China shut down 60 000 porn sites according to Reuters, arresting almost 5,000 suspects in the process.

Possession means you simply have it. Be it on your phone or on your computer or on a DVD.

sigurman · 04-03-2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Wikipedia says 3 years, but I know the guys got 7 (or more) for sure. May have hit them with mixed charges. Wiki also says you can be executed if you're a large underground distributor, whoever defines what that is.

Lots of places you can break the rules in, China is not one of those places unless you really want to tempt fate.

Possession means you simply have it. Be it on your phone or on your computer or on a DVD.

Things in China aren't how ppl think it is.
if they are going to arrest everyone with porn in the computers it would have to be millions of chineses and all male foreigners.
Things have changed in China. I talked today with a friend which is living in China and he told me that he downloads porn from torrents (most torrent sites are NOT blocked), tubes,etc. of all kinds and everyone do it, also the chineses.

L-Pink · 04-03-2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman

Things in China aren't how ppl think it is.
if they are going to arrest everyone with porn in the computers it would have to be millions of chineses and all male foreigners.
Things have changed in China. I talked today with a friend which is living in China and he told me that he downloads porn from torrents (most torrent sites are NOT blocked), tubes,etc. of all kinds and everyone do it, also the chineses.

Good, then go for it!

.

shake · 04-03-2012, 10:06 PM

Don't worry about breaking laws in China, I'm sure your organs will end up in someone nice

sigurman · 04-24-2012, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shake

Don't worry about breaking laws in China, I'm sure your organs will end up in someone nice

At least they will be useful to someone ;)

baddog · 04-24-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You must be looking forward to living in a communist shithole where freedom is non existing word.

A very good friend of mine went to China for several months (to work) and loved it.

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sigurman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: WWW Posts: 665	Oh, about the freedom etc... I've been there last september, and I can say I saw plenty of freedom in there I guess the only problem in there is the politics, all the rest is pretty much the same i saw around the world.... I never saw so many porsches, Maseratis, bentleys, ferraris, etc. in one city like in beijing - And I have traveled in all major cities in the world. Capitalism arrived to China, just in case nobody noticed. Seeing to believe it

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