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Old 05-19-2012, 05:26 PM   #1
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:2cents DUTCH content providers are GREAT, but what's wrong with USA providers?

You guys/girls selling content in USA need to learn from Dutch content sellers.

I won't give names, and don't know what's wrong with you guys in USA, but every single US content providers I deal with, I have very bad support... They just don't care about their clients, IT SEEMS... Maybe I was just unlucky, and there are a few USA content sellers that know how to treat their clients.

Try to learn from the Dutch content providers they really know how to deal with their clients.

That's what I wanted to say.

Everytime one of my friends or collegues ask me where to buy content I will always send them to the DUTCH or other EUROPEAN content providers.

Period.
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People in the USA are like American Women. "American woman stay away from me" The US is a very Self absorbed nation.

Buy content from us, let us know exactly what it is you need.
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We ain't Dutch but am sure you will love our services and support !

Try with Kevin btw, he is good!
And also Dutch company u talk about i guess.. one of the best ever, just high five for them
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do you sell picture sets? or only movies?
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We ain't Dutch but am sure you will love our services and support !

Try with Kevin btw, he is good!
And also Dutch company u talk about i guess.. one of the best ever, just high five for them
not pictures? just dvds?
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not pictures? just dvds?
We have 2000+ scenes with matching photo sets also, drop me a message on ICQ#295778036
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We are jaded from listening to you to no end about "your detailed and specific EXCLUSIVE CONTENT weird nichy needs" only to find out that you are clutching a $5 bill for your budget. Then when it turns out it's not even your $5 bill that you have to clear it with "your boss" which is probably your wife, your Mom, or your dog - you'll come here to GFY to whine about our prices being too high. Crybaby.
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We are jaded from listening to you to no end about "your detailed and specific EXCLUSIVE CONTENT weird nichy needs" only to find out that you are clutching a $5 bill for your budget. Then when it turns out it's not even your $5 bill that you have to clear it with "your boss" which is probably your wife, your Mom, or your dog - you'll come here to GFY to whine about our prices being too high. Crybaby.
dude, if i had $5 for every time a potential american client came to me and demanded to have a boy/girl shot for $800 because over here everything must be cheap, i would have retired by now

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We are jaded from listening to you to no end about "your detailed and specific EXCLUSIVE CONTENT weird nichy needs" only to find out that you are clutching a $5 bill for your budget. Then when it turns out it's not even your $5 bill that you have to clear it with "your boss" which is probably your wife, your Mom, or your dog - you'll come here to GFY to whine about our prices being too high. Crybaby.
nope, its not about money.. its about how you treat clients and RESPECT.

and just judging by your response, we can clearly see what we are talking about.

A bunch of arrogant idiots who have no idea how to treat clients.

Just with that in mind, I would go any day to european content providers all over usa cocky arrogant losers who can stick their OVER INFLATED EGO up their ASSES. That's exactly why you are a decadent Empire right now.

PERIOD.
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nope, its not about money.. its about how you treat clients and RESPECT.

and just judging by your response, we can clearly see what we are talking about.

A bunch of arrogant idiots who have no idea how to treat clients.

Just with that in mind, I would go any day to european content providers all over usa cocky arrogant losers who can stick their OVER INFLATED EGO up their ASSES. That's exactly why you are a decadent Empire right now.

PERIOD.
So you have the money to shoot custom exclusive content or will just any random Paul Markham over-used non-exclusive 10 year old content do??? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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nope, its not about money.. its about how you treat clients and RESPECT.

and just judging by your response, we can clearly see what we are talking about.

A bunch of arrogant idiots who have no idea how to treat clients.

Just with that in mind, I would go any day to european content providers all over usa cocky arrogant losers who can stick their OVER INFLATED EGO up their ASSES. That's exactly why you are a decadent Empire right now.

PERIOD.
YEAH UP YOUR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE BITCH !!! How is that for support.
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nope, its not about money.. its about how you treat clients and RESPECT.

and just judging by your response, we can clearly see what we are talking about.

A bunch of arrogant idiots who have no idea how to treat clients.

Just with that in mind, I would go any day to european content providers all over usa cocky arrogant losers who can stick their OVER INFLATED EGO up their ASSES. That's exactly why you are a decadent Empire right now.

PERIOD.
Yet this post from you is the most arrogant and rude one so far in this thread. I'm not saying you're right or wrong in your statements but it's funny how you arrogantly call us arrogant.

Based on this, and other posts of yours, I would have zero interest in doing any kind of business with you. Believe me, I know others feel the very same about me and some of my posts.
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I am trying to order from a USA CONTENT PROVIDER.

Today is the 4th time I ask them the question:

"Will you provide me with 2257 of these picture SETs?"

and they don't answer that question... NEVER EVER.

What's wrong with them?

I include that question in several emails where I ask them a few questions, including that 2257 info, and they ALWAYS answer ther other quesiton but never ever answer the 2257...

Until they don't answer I wont complete the ORDER.
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Yet this post from you is the most arrogant and rude one so far in this thread. I'm not saying you're right or wrong in your statements but it's funny how you arrogantly call us arrogant.

Based on this, and other posts of yours, I would have zero interest in doing any kind of business with you. Believe me, I know others feel the very same about me and some of my posts.
I have no idea who the fuck you are.

But I pulled the links to tushycash, just because you had the banner in your sig and you made that response.

I sent 500 signups to that sponsor, during the last few years.

GO FIGURE who is not doing business with you now, IDIOT.

Period.
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YEAH UP YOUR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE BITCH !!! How is that for support.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how USA CONTENT PROVIDERS do business.

EXPOSED to everyone. NEVER EVER do business with someone like this.

Period.

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I have no idea who the fuck you are.

But I pulled the links to tushycash, just because you had the banner in your sig and you made that response.

I sent 500 signups to that sponsor, during the last few years.

GO FIGURE who is not doing business with you now, IDIOT.

Period.

Am I supposed to cry like a little girl now too or should I just leave that to you?

There is nothing wrong with the response I made. I even said I have been guilty of doing the same in the past. You are acting like a complete asshole while complaining about others doing the same. Hello pot?

The program is in my sig because it's a good program. Pulling your links (although you probably never had any to begin with) is your call. No worries on my end.

Have a beautiful day hating the world.
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Is it really necessary to trash talk an entire nation over some bad support experiences?

How many bad experiences was it just so we can know? Less than half a dozen expriences or more than a full dozen? Also, what defines poor support for the sake of the thread?

It's very hard to sit here and take it seriously without any actual real world examples.

One persons reply is NOT a reason to not do business with an entire nation.
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Is it really necessary to trash talk an entire nation over some bad support experiences?

How many bad experiences was it just so we can know? Less than half a dozen expriences or more than a full dozen? Also, what defines poor support for the sake of the thread?

It's very hard to sit here and take it seriously without any actual real world examples.

One persons reply is NOT a reason to not do business with an entire nation.
Have had a lot of bad experiences with US content providers.. listing one by one is useless, but if you want I give you another bad experience some years ago where I bought some licensed picture sets and one month after, I have the girl of the picture set contacting my site to tell me that she gave no authorization to use her image..

And I didn't order from some private unknown guy.. they had a known site online with ordering system and all..

the content provider didn't answer and some time later they just dissapeared... And this is just another bad experience, it makes no sense to list one by one, but I can tell you I had many...

I would never open a thread like this just because I had 1 bad experience.

Just sayin...

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Am I supposed to cry like a little girl now too or should I just leave that to you?

There is nothing wrong with the response I made. I even said I have been guilty of doing the same in the past. You are acting like a complete asshole while complaining about others doing the same. Hello pot?

The program is in my sig because it's a good program. Pulling your links (although you probably never had any to begin with) is your call. No worries on my end.

Have a beautiful day hating the world.
been promoting them since 2007.

I can bet I sent them 10x more sales that you did!
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kinda sucks when what you are looking for is AMERICAN PRODUCED CONTENT, and not the usual boring euro porn.

there used to be a few companies doing content on high level, matrix comes to mind but seem to recall a few others.
in reality the content bulk business is not really profitable in the US (unless the content is stolen or otherwise illegal).
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Taking care of you before you buy has nothing to do with support. That's sales.

So you're not really complaining about their support, because you aren't buying.

Your complaint is with their Sales Departments.
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been promoting them since 2007.

I can bet I sent them 10x more sales that you did!

Maybe you have, maybe you haven't Either way I'm pretty sure nobody here is impressed with that or your inability to act respectfully to others.

Yes, content producers can be a pain in the ass to deal with but so can every other type of business, whether U.S. based or not. All I'm saying is that the way you are representing yourself here isn't doing you any favors and I say that based on my own experiences and behavior.

Chill out, find those who can deliver what you want, and focus on being successful rather than angry.

I'm sorry you feel that I am attacking you. That's not my intention at all.
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You seem like a complete fucking asshole OP so I'm not surprised you haven't had a good experience.
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Although its annoying when people ask me that question I answer YES immediately.
Have you talked to me? I don't think so. Most producers provide great customer service, it sounds like you have dealt with a few bad apples.



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I am trying to order from a USA CONTENT PROVIDER.

Today is the 4th time I ask them the question:

"Will you provide me with 2257 of these picture SETs?"

and they don't answer that question... NEVER EVER.

What's wrong with them?

I include that question in several emails where I ask them a few questions, including that 2257 info, and they ALWAYS answer ther other quesiton but never ever answer the 2257...

Until they don't answer I wont complete the ORDER.
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I can bet I sent them 10x more sales that you did!
I shot half of the Tushy Cash content to exact specs on over 2000 scenes signed, sealed, and delivered on time with all docs and ID's withoput a hitch. The guy who shot the other half of that program responded in this thread as well. I spent the other half of my last 10 years shooting for a small company called Playboy... maybe you've heard of them. But you started off this thread bashing every single US content provider so then maybe you might have rustled a few feathers dontchathink????

And anyone him-hawing around about 2257 papers should be outed here. That's no small issue that's a law. Name that idiot please.
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And anyone him-hawing around about 2257 papers should be outed here. That's no small issue that's a law. Name that idiot please.

Pretty sure you're mistaken there. The current regs allow for 3rd party 2257 records keepers. As such, a content provider may choose to act as the 3rd part for their clients.
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nope, its not about money.. its about how you treat clients and RESPECT.

and just judging by your response, we can clearly see what we are talking about.

A bunch of arrogant idiots who have no idea how to treat clients.

Just with that in mind, I would go any day to european content providers all over usa cocky arrogant losers who can stick their OVER INFLATED EGO up their ASSES. That's exactly why you are a decadent Empire right now.

PERIOD.
Why are you even considering dealing with a company that doesn't reply to emails. Especially about 2257? Unless they have something so bloody marvelous that you can't get it anywhere else. Find a different supplier.

Or is it a price thing?

If so, I would walk away immediately.

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Very true, selling something I shot 20 years ago at the moment.

Aaron, very risky to go that route, best to have the documents filed away and in case of an emergency they're where the buyer can get them right away. And check them before he publishes. 2257 documents provide/cover a lot more than the law of keeping 2257.
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how USA CONTENT PROVIDERS do business.

EXPOSED to everyone. NEVER EVER do business with someone like this.

Period.
I dont want your commie money. You come on here and call us Americans all kinds of shit and post no facts about anything. Theres PLENTY of fucked up Euro trash buisness people out there. PLENTY. Now go back to your hole before we call ROCKY on your ass.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:40 PM   #42
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I dont want your commie money. You come on here and call us Americans all kinds of shit and post no facts about anything. Theres PLENTY of fucked up Euro trash buisness people out there. PLENTY. Now go back to your hole before we call ROCKY on your ass.
OMG, lol.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:46 PM   #43
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We are jaded from listening to you to no end about "your detailed and specific EXCLUSIVE CONTENT weird nichy needs" only to find out that you are clutching a $5 bill for your budget. Then when it turns out it's not even your $5 bill that you have to clear it with "your boss" which is probably your wife, your Mom, or your dog - you'll come here to GFY to whine about our prices being too high. Crybaby.
Classic, the bigger the shout, the .......
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:17 AM   #44
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Classic, the bigger the shout, the .......
It's always about the money unless it's not. People with money don't whine about money publically - they just want stuff exactly the way they want it. Those with no money only talk about everything being too expensive... not CHEAP enough for them - in other but the same words.
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I'm thinking its the windmills. Since our city has gotten a few my customer service has increased.
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