Barefootsies

That is correct. It is not like people see in the movies.

Additionally, Interpol does not get involved unless your local/state/fed law enforcement make a request directly to them. You have to submit a report there, and if you're lucky... your county has someone who deals with internet bullshit. If not, you will just get bounced around until you have to write the state attorney general, and then they assign it to the state police or ICE. That is the FBI division that deals with computer crimes.

Sadly I know all of this because I've had to go through all of these steps, and agencies, because of some of the psychotics who frequent GFY and think their internet gangster crap has no limits.

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Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

The Porn Nerd

Why can't we all get along?
Is it because this "industry" is filled with people who couldn't get a job doing anything else?

Just sayin'.

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plsureking

wow. good read and surprising mental breakdown by the OP. i'm seeing the cracks in the Manwin foundation that many predicted. expand too fast and your little balloon will pop...

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Tijuana_Tom

You ever seen Mike South?

Bag of bones if he didn't play games he wouldn't get any action.

Barefootsies

Yep. I saw him in Miami. When people call him the "Mouth of the South" and it conjurers up the mental image of the southerner you see on TV waving a confederate flag, that's him. At least that is what he reminds me of when I look at him physically.

I am not saying he is a backwater ignorant hick by any means. I hear the dude used to work for NASA or some shit. Unless he was a janitor, I would assume he is a smart guy by default.

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plsureking

i agree. i pretty much like anything DWB posts. why doesn't GFY have a 'like' button? this board is an antique..

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mikesouth

LOL I did work at NASA and I wasnt da janitor....I did relational db design and implementation and OOM (mid 80s to 90s)

As for my life...Im thrilled with it, anyone knows me very well knows the LONG list of A List pornchicks and stripper magazine model types I have dated OFF Camera...

And still do I might add....

meanwhile I will now turn this thread back over to Paul

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...as I said. One smart cookie fine sire.

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Paul Markham

I ask Fabian hard questions he doesn't answer. The idiots and ass kissers ask nothing and derail the thread.

So let's get back to asking FT hard questions.

Can he tell us where the 9 figure loan has gone.
Can he tell us which offices hold how many staff.
Can we ask him how many floors they have in the Montreal office.
Can he allow a non ass kisser to verify his figures.

The question of where the money came from to buy MW will never be answered, like the question of where the 9 figure loan came from. We can ask him when it will be spent and where. Like we can ask him to prove the figure of employees they state.

I caught him out with his knowledge of how much office space he has in Montreal, idiots and ass kissers focused on a side quip to avoid him answering the real questions.

OK we know he doesn't listen to him PR lady. Maybe he would like to give me her phone number so I can verify she exists.

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Try putting a Brazzers scene on C4S and see how well it sells. Or any of the mass market, mass pirated porn. C4S is essentially Ma & Pa operations and porn that isn't every where online.

The day I see a C4S advert on PH is the day we can look at the C4S sales model.

Here's a way to slash costs and split test the models.

Offer affiliates the options of driving traffic to a site with two tours. Tour A the traditional model.

Tour B. Cut affiliate payouts and support to the bone to save money. Sell cheap memberships or/and single scenes from the sample clips featured on the tour. The sample clips could revolve every time a surfers lands on the site, to offer lots of different options for the single sales. Maybe offer 3 for the price of two type discounts.

Now affiliates can choose what tour they promote and see if the extra sales will cover the drop in their revenue.

Anyone is welcome to tinker with this idea of adapting the iTunes micro payment solution.

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That is not totally accurate. They have agents who run people down but leave the arresting to the local law enforcement. But you are correct, they don't have a jail. Instead they deport people to their home country. They have an INTERPOL office here in Thailand, complete with agents who are running people down on behalf of governments of the citizens who have had warrants issued for them. However, once found, it is the Thai police who arrest them, but INTERPOL does all the footwork and is right there during the arrest. They just don't physically do it themselves.

Example, you live in some island in the Caribbean. You are a citizen of Scotland and they issue an arrest warrant for you. They give that to INTERPOL who tracks you down with the help of the local island police, and the local police arrest you, turn you over to INTERPOL who then deports you back to Scotland. They can also issue their own arrest warrants.

INTERPOL could very well be used to hunt pirates if arrest warrants were issued for them. And the warrant doesn't necessarily have to come from their home country.


See post above. However, you are correct in the fact that they do not operate totally on on their own. They do have their own wanted list that they hunt, but they usually act on behalf of the country the criminal is from.

I get to see them in action all the time. They are assisting the Thais to arrest people left and right here. Pattaya is a notorious haven for criminals on the run.

INTERPOL is getting deeper into cybercrime and digital security starting in 2014. No telling where that is going to lead, but my guess is they wouldn't be getting involved with the internet unless they have been given some power on an international level to do so.

From INTERPOL's website:

I know Damian will still refuse to believe that anyone can operate with a global response, HOW ABOUT WE NOT SAY THESE THINGS

Jel

DamianJ

Course they don't. DWB got annoyed at me pointing out the truth, so did some name calling and lying.

DamianJ

Why didn't the MPAA and RIAA use INTERPOL then?

Oh yes, because you're wrong.

Where's your proof I am involved in illegal activity?

Hate to get you banned too. Really. That would be awful.

DamianJ

Please quote one thing I've said that is pro-piracy. Just one.

Stop lying, kid. I know it's frustrating when I prove you to be wrong, but lying and name calling isn't a way to convince others of your argument. Just makes it look like you've lost.


They don't enforce law. And there is no global law. Sorry to break it to you.

There is no global law.


So it's not happened ever, and your evidence that it can is that you say "it might"?

You're bad at this, aren't you?


So, the MPAA and RIAA with billions and billions and public sympathy failed to do that. And you think some porn monkeys will?

Hilarious, really!


So, the MPAA and RIAA with billions and billions and public sympathy failed to do that. And you think some porn monkeys will?

Hilarious, really!



The point is that achieved NOTHING as they were up and running again within hours. It was a joke.

This has been tried and failed. And there were hundred of domains seized incorrectly. It was a total fuck up and achieved NOTHING to stop piracy.


So it was pointless and achieved nothing. Do *try* and keep up, kid.


And now no one gambles online in America?

Fucking LOL!

And you clearly just like to imagine things that aren't true.


Yes, it was in the news and stuff.

What impact has megaupload had on piracy? None. Except educating people about the existance of file lockers.

And he is going to walk anyway.

They didn't though.

There are rules here. Accusing the ASACP of being scammers is something you get banned for.

And accusing me of illegal activity with no proof is something you should be banned for. We'll see.

DamianJ

You could flip that...

You can pirate any music you want for free with google. And yet people still pay a dollar for a song...

DWB

*yawn*

Why would they have used INTERPOL?

Comments like that just hows you have no idea what INTERPOL does. You should stick to performing magic shows for little kids and being a pirate fluffer.

BTW... where is that cp site? Hurry up and get that online so you can test your theory of being untouchable.


INTERPOL does exactly what I said they do in my reply to Warchild.

No lying needed. You're as pro-piracy as Gideon and everyone sees it. If he wouldn't have been outed, I would have continued thinking you were him.


Knock yourself out.

Now run along like a little whiny bitch and cry to mods to help you, again.

DWB

ASACP is a joke who doesn't do anything unless it involves pre-teen porn. That came from Joan herself when she was running it.

As far as a scam, it's possible. Most organizations connected to the adult industry are.

Your own words are enough to know that you are a freeloading fiend. But like I said, cry as hard as you can and maybe mommy will help you. Wouldn't want her little boy to get butt hurt on the playground, again.

DamianJ

Thought you said you weren't replying to me anymore?

*sigh*

Yes, there are no CP sites online at all.

Oh wait, of course there are. You are really bad at this, aren't you?


Just post *one* quote from me that is pro-piracy. Just one.

Saying that someone is pro-piracy because they are anti-stupidity is like saying someone is black because they are anti-apartheid.

It could be avoided if you stopped posting lies about me, or at least posted proof of my involvement in illegal activities.

But you can't. Because you are just a nasty little liar, who when presented with an argument that you cannot argue against you name call and lie.

It's sweet you think that you can do what the RIAA and MPAA have failed to do, but when you realise that you can't, there's no need to take out your frustration on me, kid.

DamianJ

Sadly, according to the rules here, you need to provide proof of that or be banned.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE

Is it piracy if you don't share ?

DWB

DamianJ

And your proof of my being involved in illegal activities is where?

I'm *trying* to help you out here, kid.

Just post the proof. Whilst you still are allowed to post...

Jel

what a fucking girl. wah wah wah.

DamianJ

Please Jel, I beg of you, put me back on ignore. Why torment yourself like this?

Paul Markham

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https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136

Has anyone here seen the pictures of Damian in Thailand?

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DamianJ

Paul, I asked for a quote where I am pro piracy, not some where I am anti-stupidty.

Thanks for trying though, it's so sweet you spent your "retirement" desperately searching through GFY and came up with nothing at all. So much so you had to include a quote from B&B!

Lollage.

Lots of people saw the thailand pictures, someone even took one of them as his avatar.

Bless you and your constant public fails.

You really do amuse me. Thanks.

Slappin Fish

DamianJ nobody here believes piracy will completely disappear but accessing it can become enough of a hassle for mentalities to shift.

a siterip will always live on a torrent somewhere, no doubt about it, but most have two seeders and take a week to download. it's no comparison to the punk with terabytes of content on a dedicated server automatically uploading to file lockers while his postbot sends the links to every forum in existence.

and if piracy can't be slowed at all so what? watching those cunts scramble for payment processors is a joy in itself

DamianJ

I am confused as to why you think the porn industry can do something that the MPAA and RIAA have failed to do?

It's a waste of time and money. Look at how much the MPAA and RIAA spent. Look at how much the War on Drugs has cost.

Use the time and money wasted fighting an unwinnable war on making better product, better service and better marketing. You'll see more of a ROI. That's really my only point.

JOKER

Because some people in the "porn industry" are maybe more dedicated to the idea that something can be done - unlike you, it sounds like you've given up before you even tried, but no doubt you'll not wait one second to also enjoy the success when it happens

One thing actually includes the other. Believe me - I see your point, I do.

But you see the thing is, you can't win a war by planting pretty flowers - you actually have to kick those in the balls that keep stepping on your pretty flowers in the first place.

If you disagree with that - I'm sorry but then you really do not understand how fighting a war works in the first place.

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Slappin Fish

Sure but any product is only better comparatively to another.

by relegating free porn to torrents, proxy lists, TOR or 5 minutes tubes clips you are also making memberships sites comparatively better.

We are stuck in a circle jerk discussion because we are talking about two different things. File sharing and for profit piracy. The former which the MPAA and RIAA threw money at is here to stay, the latter has Achilles heels and their business can take a significant nose dive by taking simple action.

DamianJ

Let's pretend, for a minute, you could stop for profit piracy (you can't, but let's pretend you can). What do you think will happen then?

I'll tell you, it will just be like before file lockers started. Torrents, usenet, irc, private ftp, forums etc will just take over again.

All file lockers did was make it slightly technically easier for noobs to pirate stuff and made a few people rich.

Removal of that aspect of piracy will not have any real impact in people sharing copyrighted content that they shouldn't be sharing.

DamianJ

I think, like the war on drugs, history has proven the war on piracy is unwinnable.

Therefore, what is the point of fighting an unwinnable war?

The amount of muscle, money and lobbying the RIAA and MPAA have combined makes the porn industry look like a joke in comparison. They failed.

JOKER

And that is your prerogative.

Instead of giving up before trying - maybe we should learn from history and not repeat the same mistake others, that have in your eyes failed, made.

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twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

(that is the sound of the ref whistle I just blew to stop play and make a call on the field...)

The call on the field is HOLDING DamianJ as being pro-piracy, which he is not. Accusing him of being pro-piracy is going to result in a loss of yardage for the anti-tube team of 15 yards of credibility. An additional minor penalty against Markham will be assessed for DELAY OF GAME, for a loss of another 10 yards.

Play will resume on the whistle.

tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt.

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Usenet, irc, private ftp results don't rank on every google result.

Nothing will stop file sharing. but as you said yourself it's all about visibility and convenience.

btw this is what happens to a file locker when it stops paying per download..

DamianJ

And all those users have totally stopped pirating content, right?

Oh wait, of course they haven't, they've just gone someplace else to steal the shit they think they should get for free...

DWB

I'm actually trying to talk about the possibilities in the future. Not when someone failed at in the past or things that have no true relevance to the porn industry. I'm looking forward, not backwards, on this problem. What someone else failed at is of no concern to me other than acknowledging where they failed so it is not repeated.

In the meantime, those stuck in their pirate ways only want to argue about what can't be done because it wasn't achieved before. That is typical of people who don't achieve much in life because they are not forward thinkers or problem solvers.

I strongly have faith in things we do not yet know about or even are thinking of. We don't know what WIPO may evolve into or what law enforcement may have up their sleeves. We don't know if DMCA will change, or even if new laws will pass to govern the internet on an international level. We simply don't know. But since the world will always need ditch diggers and magicians, I suppose there is a use for the other way of thinking as well.

10 years ago did you think you would be using touch screens on your phone, or that your phone could shoot HD video? Hell no you didn't. Things change. Innovations happen. Possibilities are endless. Thus my stance on hoping the future is one without piracy as we see it today.


THAT was a funny post.

And yea, he is totally pro-piracy. No one in their right mind would argue endlessly about this subject, always in support of ANY and ALL anti-piracy measures failing, without having any skin in the game whatsoever, unless they were knee deep in the middle of it.

He's just like Gideon. People who are so hell bent on arguing on behalf of the pirates, are either pro-piracy or total loons who probably expose themselves to blind people.

Slappin Fish

I respect your point of view but I think you contradict yourself by promoting the benefits of visibility, convenience and marketing then saying pushing piracy back to a much less mainstream place like usenet or irc is useless.

You can choose to believe me or not but since oron lost it's paypal and made their affiliate program invite only the s.e asian content I come across by search is a tenth of what it use to.

Anyway, we are starting to have a Paul Markham type conversation, which let's face it is pretty useless, so I'll leave it at that.

MattPIVO

This thread is WAY TO LONG TO READ!

CLIFF NOTES ANYONE?

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But... MPAA... RIAA... iTunes... Hollywood... can't stop stealing....

DWB

Fabian got butt hurt, Paul Markum derailed the thread, and since Damian stalks Paul, he took over the derailed thread with nonsense about MPAA, RIAA, and iTunes, and is telling everyone to make better content and that piracy will live forever and everyone will fail and burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity. Oh, and I think he pulled a rabbit from a hat.

That is more or less it.

Robbie

DWB summed it up perfectly:

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MattPIVO

Thank you for saving me a solid hour+ of reading

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The best part was Fabian butt hurt because his blog comments were held for moderation due to having two or more links in the comment. He had a mini-meltdown over it.

Jman

LMAO Great one Far-L ;)

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And then Paul and DamianJ came in and shit all over the thread...

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couldnt have said it better myself

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